Any ideas on how to stop lame boxes from showing up? Lame BIF box list?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by readbaron, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. trxxpaxxs

    trxxpaxxs Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2010 New York

    Glad you liked the box! And thanks for the kind words. I have been on the receiving end of some very generous BAs, and just try to pay it forward when I can (here's looking at you leschkie, libbey, brewtifulmind, JeepCop, misterhops, vegasbeerman, surlytheduff, and many, many others). Cheers!
     
  2. NJOssie

    NJOssie Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 New Jersey

    all this came to light while I was away... I have to say that seeing his name in more BIF's is irritating and he's not even trying to defend himself.... I believe he should have at minimum a Bad BIF'er Alert thread
     
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  3. libbey

    libbey Initiate (0) May 18, 2008 British Indian Ocean Territory

    I have been fortunate in the vast majority of the BIF boxes I have received have been absolutely amazing. I've had a couple that made me shrug my shoulders but the amount of awesomeness from the rest have vastly outweighed the others.

    I tend to lean towards BIF's run by people I know are going to do a stand up job of vetting and coordinating (thank you guys!).

    But in the end I join BIF's because I enjoy the premise and the friendships that can be built from them. I join BIF's with the sole idea of dropping giant beer bombs on people's porches because in my mind that is how you win a Beer it Forward.
     
  4. NJOssie

    NJOssie Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 New Jersey

    well said libbey... I won't be shying away from BIF's by any means, nor giving someone the short end... but I would prefer to see people that are constantly involved and not doing their part (not even meeting the rules and not making good on it after they see the other hauls) blacklisted
     
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  5. glitchedmind

    glitchedmind Initiate (0) May 8, 2012 California

    The first BIF I was involved I got a half ass box and it was sent 3 weeks after the target date.
    Two shirts which were the incorrect size, broken glassware, and 80% of the beers were of styles I didnt have a single hint of in wants/gots/hads. At the time I even had listed on my profile that I wasnt interested in those styles.
    Even though the sender said replacements would be in the mail, I never received anything. I see the person participating in multiple BIFs with the same excuses.

    In the end, is it worth it to cause a big stink about it? Not really. I will be leery and will express my opinion to a the BIF creator if I am in the same BIF as them again.
     
  6. NJOssie

    NJOssie Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 New Jersey

    I hear you glitch... but just like a bad trader, calling them out may help someone in the future
     
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  7. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Do you even BIF bro?

    Brendan4532 should be banned from BIFs.
     
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  8. lucas1801

    lucas1801 Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2012 Massachusetts

    Wait doesn't your team a *****y or hiring one or something?
     
  9. cfh64

    cfh64 Pooh-Bah (2,070) Aug 16, 2005 Texas
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    There's nothing to be sorry about. Normally I'm pretty tolerant but I find it hard to believe this guy is joining BIF's and not know that his boxes are lackluster to say the least. I'm quite sure there are "better" beers in his distro than what he his sending. DB IMO.
     
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  10. fortsambo

    fortsambo Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2011 Colorado

    Or just check his gots...
     
  11. dblab33

    dblab33 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan

    He has also posted in other threads that he works for a beer distributor. Not sure how it works in Florida, but everyone I know that works in distro up here can basically get whatever they want from the brands they carry.
     
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  12. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    Someone needs to send him a message with a link to this thread, a picture of Jimmy from South Park, and text that says "Have you seen this? Have you heardaboutthis?"
     
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  13. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    twofold:

    do a better job of picking BIF participants

    aaaaand

    set reasonable BIF goals, both for the group and yourself.

    A lot of the more Lofty BIFs seem to have a lot of 'bad' boxes. I've also seen a bunch of boxes that look pretty f'in sweet to me land only to get torn apart as 'shelf turds' or 'not even that rare'. Not everyone has access to wales or even the caliber/selection that many are used to. If you want a wale CJ then why don't you guys set up a trade so you know what beers you're gonna get and you won't be 'out' your 'precious'.
     
  14. NJOssie

    NJOssie Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 New Jersey

    Shogo... I get what you're saying, but have you even seen what this guy has sent/done? He doesn't even meet some of the BIF rules

    I love killing people with boxes... I don't have to feel like I got the better end at all... and I haven't been the "victim" in any BIF... but after seeing this guy's boxes, he's clearly not doing his part or trying to send anyone a good box
     
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  15. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    This. It's disturbing to see the rarity-only mentality creep into each and every BIF. Save the obsession-for-whales for the ISO:FT forum, general trading forum, and whale BIFs.

    If you want your BIF to be all crazy boxes, state it up front and do your homework weeding out participants.
     
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  16. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    I don't think Shogo was saying that guy wasn't at fault, just responding with general observations on BIFs as a whole.
     
  17. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania


    Yeah I don't know the case in particular that everyone is talking about. Let me go read through.

    pre-emptive- not meeting minimum requirements is totally lame.
     
  18. oteixeira

    oteixeira Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2012 North Carolina

    Also re-gifted a bottle at least once, which I think has always been a no-no in BIFs.
     
  19. Gonzoillini

    Gonzoillini Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2008 Illinois

    Just as an FYI to everyone reading this thread, the community (or in my case NJBeerNerd) came through with a fantastic 6 bottle shipper that was totally unsolicited (and really helped take the sting off of my box).

    Not reaching some of the heights we target in BIF's is one thing, disregarding the requirements and sending out a box that doesn't come close to fitting into the theme / requirements clearly set out at sign up time is a totally different story.

    One of the reasons some of the more well known BIF's (Secret Santa, Growling at the Moon, etc...) have transferred to Facebook is that there is a great deal more accountability when everyone knows everyone else. It helps prevent some of the lackluster / not meeting requirements boxes that are being discussed in this thread.

    Cheers!
    ~Tony
     
  20. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania


    Crazy how Facebook has replaced BA as the beer network of choice. I spend way more time on FB beer-smack-talkin' than I do on BA.
     
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