I believe I've hit my abv "wall."

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by MVotter, Jan 20, 2013.

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  1. MVotter

    MVotter Pundit (761) Sep 9, 2007 New York

    I know. I know. If it's brewed, it's beer.

    Just sayin'...I had the Bourbon County Brand Stout, and it was delicious and potent, and still "beer." I think I am going to draw the line at BCBS's 15% abv. And, personally, I enjoy higher alchohol malty brews than higher alcohol hoppy ones. I think that the flavor possibilities with the malts lends the opportunity for a more varied profile.

    Of course, if another brew comes along with a 15%+ abv and I love it, then this post blows-up. But, I'm pretty sure that I'm at my personal threshold.

    BCBS...all around.

    Thoughts on beer abv thresholds? Preferred high alcohol styles? Suggested higher abv brews? Persuade me.
     
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  2. PatriotsRule

    PatriotsRule Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2012 Massachusetts

    Strictly Utopias, it's a sort of minimum threshold.
     
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  3. dgilks

    dgilks Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2008 Australia

    It's a good point. To be honest, you need to be doing something pretty special to make it worth going past 12 per cent.
     
  4. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Is your threshold flavor vs. sh*tted? :stuck_out_tongue: (I have no idea why I substitute sh*t when it comes to crucial vowels in words...besides the point...)

    When it comes to the higher alcohol (15%+) brews, to get the ABV to that level and still retain hop crispness is d@m (there I go again!) impossible. I much prefer a hop bomb but granted, I agree, a maltier beer lends itself to more complexity and I really enjoy that as well. But, there's alot of other non-hop forward beers out there well under 15% with really nice complexity. I really dig (now there's an atiquated term, almost as bad as "groovy") There's a myriad of beers out there well under 15% that are complex but because of the malt bill are not enjoyable because the booze masks the complex and subtle nuances.
     
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  5. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Florida

    Mephistopheles is the highest abv distributed beer I've had and i enjoyed it.

    The highest abv beer I've had was an 18% imperial stout from some homebrewers near me. I enjoyed that as well. I still haven't reached my limit
     
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  6. Dope

    Dope Pooh-Bah (2,925) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Chocolate Rain at 19.5%ish was excellent in my opinion. Smoked BCBS in my opinion. Haven't had anything higher than that that was any good yet. Got some Utopias sitting in the cellar though...

    Dope
     
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  7. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    I don't believe I've had anything higher in ABV than Black Tuesday, and I fucking love Black Tuesday.
     
  8. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Utopias is always nice (27%). Struise has a few fun beers over 20% (Special Kay, Double Black, 5 Squared). Black Tuesday and Chocolate Rain (~19%) are great.

    I'm drinking a bottle of Monster29 from Dark Horse right now. At 17%, it's pretty good. I'm always down to try something over 15%.
     
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  9. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    I was "timed out", please refer to my response above before I get flagged for bad hippy grammar.
     
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  10. skunkpuddle

    skunkpuddle Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2011 California

    Stop thinking and just drink
     
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  11. SageO

    SageO Pundit (825) Jul 13, 2010 California

    Out of all the high-ABV beers I’ve had, Black Damnation V does the best job of being the highest-ABV beer that still tastes like beer. Utopias is only a couple ABV points higher but definitely drinks more like a port/brandy. Black Damnation V is stupid though – it drinks easier than most other double-digit ABV beers.
     
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  12. costanza46

    costanza46 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2013 California

    I think that around 10% it begins to lose its beer-ness. I.E. to much alcohol bite
     
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  13. MeadGuyfromMD

    MeadGuyfromMD Zealot (562) May 23, 2007 Maryland
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    Dogfish 120 and WWS are two favorites of mine, typically around 18% abv. I thoroughly enjoy Utopias as well, as I have had the last 3 releases, all at slightly climbing abv levels. I tried Sink the Bismarck at it was hot, but the flavor itself, was a bit off putting. I don't think abv should be your determining factor, it's all about flavor and your enjoyment of the brew.

    Cheers
     
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  14. sukwonee

    sukwonee Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 Washington

    Uncle Jacobs was amazing.
     
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  15. Derranged

    Derranged Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    'Aven't 'ad anything stronger than 18.0 abv Oi 'aven't. Dogfish 'ead 120, WWS and Raison D'Extra.
     
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  16. Azzy

    Azzy Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2012 Texas

    Bcbs has high abv but you don't feel like your drinking something with a big boozy mess, I love it.
     
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  17. Pete27lax

    Pete27lax Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 New York

    Completely agree with this. After trying Utopias, and not being a huge fan, I thought Double Black was a lost cause. Opened mine a few weeks ago and loved it. Amazing how well it drank for the extremely high abv. Try going after this beer before setting your ABV limit!
     
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  18. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Grand Pooh-Bah (5,343) Dec 11, 2006 California
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    I just personally want to thank you for putting the period on the inside of the quote.
     
  19. bylerteck

    bylerteck Grand Pooh-Bah (3,167) May 17, 2009 Canada (ON)
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    I've found that more malt forward beers tend to win over overly hopped ones when you're getting up around 15%+ in ABV. Sink the Bismarck is my highest 'had' beer at 41% and it was rough goings. The hop/alcohol mix was alot to deal with.

    I've found malt forward beers in the 15-19% range to be exquisite and complex for the most part, and the alcohol seems to compliment rather than blend poorly with the alcohol.
     
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  20. fx20736

    fx20736 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    I tend to hold the minority view but I don't typically like beers with a high abv (My favorite beer is 4.7%). I used to drink Eliot Ness regularly in the Summer until I started realizing I always seemed to get buzzed after a couple. When I discovered that the abv was 6.2% I stopped buying it and now when I want a Vienna Lager I buy Brooklyn or Boston Lager. I do love Porters and fortunately most of the ones I like are under 6%. Once in a while I like to have IPA but that style isn't even close to being a favorite. The one category of high abv beers I make an exception for is Belgian Strong Dark Ales. They taste so amazing that I don't mind going into a stupor for one of them.
     
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