The Pros and Cons of "Outing" Someone

E. You post about a suspicious bad trader who in-turn outs himself, either from pride of wanting to redeem himself or, sheer stupidity/ego.

 

I had to start a "potential bad trader thread" once. I didn't out the person, and there was a good reason for the thread. It can be used as a very effective tool for getting someone to ship.

Me: Hey, you see that angry mob over there?
Him: yeah, why?
Me: They are going to find out you are the reason for their anger if you don't ship my beer.
Him: Ok, will have it out asap!

 

I think there should be a standard procedure for a bad trader thread.
1 they miss the ship date agreed upon by 2 weeks (time can vary)
2 you give them an ultimatum that you will out them if they don't get you a trackin number within 2 days
3 create the bad trader thread no bs just post the name and someone they know will likely prod them and hopefully it works
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I realize it will not always be so cut and dry. But maybe oldport could chime in with his $.02. Just as you can't file a missing persons report for at least 24 hours maybe a bad trader alert needs a minimum amount of time and some basic procedure so we don't start chopping of innocent peoples heads

 

Oh good, just what we need, encouragement for more negativity in the trade forums...

 

I want to out mcbeerbrew. He hasn't replied to our trade in 24 hours and I crunched the numbers and there is an 18% chance hes a bad trader.



Am I doing this right?

 

I see what the OP is getting at and I would agree. And even if you hold a bad trade thread over someone to get them to ship, aren't they still a bad trader? I know I wouldn't want to trade with that person. If we want the bahavior to stop, then there has to be meaningful consequences. I say the community should err on the side of OVER REPORTING, that way the community can be the judge and jury. If the thread is legit, bad trader is identified. If it isn't legit, OP of said thread will be called out and maybe learn a thing or two along the way.

Plus, it isn't like the community doesn't like bad trader threads

 

You are assuming that the OP of a bad trader thread should be looking out for what's best for the community, when they might (should?) be more interested in looking out for themselves. No math here, but naming names and releasing the bored-today-and-need-some-excitement-BA-mob on someone may very well cause that someone to never send the box out at all.

 

doh

if they didn't ship, and you had to create a vague thread about them, then they shipped, and you never let us know who they are...they are a bad trader that someone else here will have to deal with. i don't understand how so many here don't get this.

*hits head on wall*

 

Yeah but bro, at least the "community" is "protected" now. Who cares if the OP doesn't get his beers, AT LEAST I WON'T GET BURNED NOW!!!!11!!!1!1!!!1

 

Well, the gawkers in the community are just looking out for themselves as well. It makes sense.

 

18% DICK MOVE

 

I agree, but under the pretense of "protecting the community". Funny thing to me is that the OP is also a part of the "community" but very few people seem to give a shit about him getting the beers he's owed as long as the "guilty" party is outed.

 

I've often seen the community step up and try to right the wrong. Usually it is a friend of the bad trader who has a better shot of getting the beers back from their friend. They essentially buy the debt from the harmed trader and go after it themselves. Other times random good Samaritans have stepped up to the plate and sent free beer or really lop sided trades.

 

No doubt, but the people who typically step up are most often not the people who clamor for names to be posted. That was more my point.

 

Gotcha, now I'm picking up what you're laying down.

 

Is OP actually Ozzie Guillen? Those percentages have that odd "this totally makes sense to me and no one else" feel of the "I love Fidel Castro" press conference he gave

 

Can we make it mandatory that any suspected Bad traders wear a t-shirt with a big Scarlet A on it to all events involving beer?

 

From now on I'm not going to say "Give him more time" I'm going to say "Give him an extra 15% or so"

 

What if the suspected bad trader only ships 13% of the beer. Or, what if they only ship 13% of the time?