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Russian River, Sante Adairius, Alpine, Societe, Cellarmaker are all great visits in CA
I'd bet in a pinch, Vinnie could cook up a decent Imp Stout.;)
this is an amazing beer and I think I'd put it neck and neck with PtY. I still like PtE slightly more than both. Simtra i a little hotter and PtY...
That Hop Shortage is top notch. My buddy managed to score me one on bottling day.