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'03 Czar and '07 Iris Trade Values?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by nolimitnsb, Apr 11, 2013.

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  1. nolimitnsb

    nolimitnsb Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2012 Illinois

    I'm newer to beer trading and feel like I have a descent sense for trade values of the more common traded/sought items but I have no clue on the trade values of these 2 vintages I have:

    -'03 Avery Czar
    -'07 Cantillon Iris

    Any advice or input would be appreciated. I'm potentially looking to trade them but want to get a sense on what they're worth (or rather what other beers I can get with them) before I just start posting them. Thanks fellow BAs!
     
    #1 nolimitnsb, Apr 11, 2013
  2. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer Maven (1,408) May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Both will likely only trade for hard to get locals like HF or not so limited releases like darkness and dark lord
     
    #2 rowingbrewer, Apr 11, 2013
  3. nolimitnsb

    nolimitnsb Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2012 Illinois

    Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not expecting them to be the holy grails of beer...just unsure of their value. For clarity are you saying both together or both individually would trade for the kinds of things you mentioned?
     
    #3 nolimitnsb, Apr 11, 2013
  4. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer Maven (1,408) May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Individually and better luck with the iris
     
    #4 rowingbrewer, Apr 11, 2013
  5. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2010 Illinois

    What size bottle is the iris?
     
    #5 yeahnatenelson, Apr 11, 2013
  6. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Any American russian imperial stout holding up well for ten years would be a minor miracle. Unless someone is an Avery fanatic, I wouldn't think the Czar would trade for more than locals. Too much uncertainty.
     
    #6 drgarage, Apr 11, 2013
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  7. nolimitnsb

    nolimitnsb Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2012 Illinois

    750ml

    Yeah I figured it would be a crapshoot on the drinkability but do see trades for undrinkable rare beers (rare as in that it's probably hard to find other unopened 2003 Czars - not that Czar as a whole is rare) all the time so thought there'd probably be someone out there that'd want it. It seems to me that it's such an odd beer to have 10 years later that it is probably hard to value. I mean I've seen the guys out there looking for old, retired Coors beers and offering ridiculous things for them but to most people that probably seems crazy. I guess ultimately a value is in whatever someone is willing to pay/trade for an item.

    Any other thoughts on the values of these 2?
     
    #7 nolimitnsb, Apr 11, 2013
  8. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    I love old Iris -- I had some 2007 not long ago, but it's not one I tend to trade for. I would think other old Cantillon would probably hold greater value -- I'm sure some people wouldn't trust the old hops in it (though they should).
     
    #8 drgarage, Apr 11, 2013
  9. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    If there are people like this, it's pretty much a sign of immense ignorance: lambic is traditionally brewed with aged hops.
     
    #9 Etan, Apr 12, 2013
  10. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    But Iris is dry-hopped, and then the hops age. I understand the concern, but assuming a Lambic will age like an IPA is hilarious.
     
    #10 drgarage, Apr 12, 2013
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  11. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    If an old DIPA turns into a well-aged barleywine, what does an old dry-hopped lambic(-style) beer turn into? :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #11 Etan, Apr 12, 2013
  12. oglmcdgl

    oglmcdgl Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2007 Pennsylvania

    They have not held up at all. Have had a few and they are a disaster. Op you should not pass them on to anyone.
     
    #12 oglmcdgl, Apr 12, 2013
  13. Vanlingleipa

    Vanlingleipa Maven (1,456) May 19, 2011 California
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    This sounds like a bit of a beer geek trap, but here's one example...http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3313/24663
     
    #13 Vanlingleipa, Apr 13, 2013
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