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2012 DL vs. 2011 Darkness

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by ChugginOil, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. ChugginOil

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    I was always told that Darkness was the better of theae stouts but after teying Darkness '1r for the first tine, I have to say, I could buy a hand-full of stouts that taste just like it, off the shelve. Same goes for DL but there's less equivilents for that as they are.

    What do you think?
     
  2. aasher

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    Black Albert is a higher quality RIS than both of those beers IMO.

    I have gone to both events in the past. I'll admit it, I go for the tastings.
     
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  3. maximum12

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    Unfortunately, you just sampled the weakest year of Darkness (& I'd say the weakest year of Dark Lord, too).

    The '11 Darkness has been my least favorite of the series; it tasted more like a porter, weirdly thin & without a great deal of substance. I know other people have loved it, but I'd give it another go. The '12 Darkness is light-years better, as was the '09, & while the '10 wasn't great fresh, it's excellent now.

    Hopefully you've sampled Dark Lord other than the abomination that is the '12 vintage, too.
     
  4. xnicknj

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    I'd typically take Darkness over Dark Lord (especially if it's the '12 vintage), but I don't find these beers to be all that comparable, other than their "rarity" and release parties.
     
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  5. evilcatfish

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    Well shit, I'm real glad I'm sitting on a couple 12' Dark Lords
     
  6. maximum12

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    Well, I've been told recently that they're improving from their green apple origins...if that helps! I have one too.
     
  7. OneBeertoRTA

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    The 09' Vintage tastes great!... on chinese food.
     
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    I am probably the minority here but I actually enjoyed 2012 DL and did not enjoy 2011 Darkness.

    I probably won't be seeking for DL or Darkness in the foreseeable future though - there are many many better beers more readily and cheaply available.
     
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    I haven't had the '11 Darkness, but I had a '10 Darkness a few months back and it was better than any vintage of DL. I did have '10 Darkness fresh, and I have to agree with maximum12 in that it has certainly become much better with age.
     
  10. DanzBorin

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    My only experiences are 09 Darkness and 11 DL. Both were good, but my pick went to Darkness hands down.
     
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    I've had 09-11 DL and 08-12 Darkness, and I'll take any vintage of Darkness over any vintage of DL. '09 DL wasn't too bad, but even fresh Darkness destroys it.
     
  12. PittBeerGirl

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    My favorite Darklord was the '08 followed by the '10. I've had darkness (08 and 09 side by side in May of 2010)-but since its hoppier I would much rather have it fresh so I would like to try it again. I think of the two I prefer Darklord.

    But yes, I feel that there are a lot of less rare imperial stouts out there that I like better that are easier to find. My favorite Imperial Stouts (non barrel-aged) are Southampton, Stone, and the Abyss. Stone is off the shelf; Deschutes doesn't ship this way but its relitively easy to trade for the Abyss; and Southampton is hard to get ahold of but not as hyped as Darkness and Darklord. Darkness and Darklord aren't even in my top 10 Imperial Stouts.
     
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    Crap Bags!! Just traded KtG for DL '12 and Parabola for Darkness '12..... guess I'll regret that one :(
     
  14. DocJitsu

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    '12 DL v. '12 Darkness. Darkness all day. Either one v. Eclipse Elijah Craig 12. DL and Darkness are both eclipsed.
     
  15. Casedogg43

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    Both '12 DL and '12 Darkness were terrific beers. Truely great!
    I believe Darkness is far more available than is DL. So that will skew the poll a bit.

    I've only had '11 & '12 Darkness. Both = Greatness
    I've had '10, '11, & 12 Darklord. All = Greatness

    Many don't agree or want to hear this: I think Baller Stout is as good as both of those. It just melts your pallet!

    I'm only a couple years into stouts, but I say, if you have a few bucks to spend and want a truely epic stout that is both rare, aged and full of greatness. You can't go wrong with either DL or Darkness.
    Cheers
     
  16. Casedogg43

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    I just picked up a couple bottles of Black Albert and can't wait to try it.
    Next weekend it is!
     
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