2017 FOBAB

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  1. macewank

    macewank Zealot (654) Aug 28, 2010 Illinois

    It went up $25 -- roughly a 40% increase. Large, yes, but not "almost doubled".
  2. EROCK75

    EROCK75 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2009 Illinois

    So far both are still available. Maybe if they don't sell out it won't be as crowded?
  3. ryno0384

    ryno0384 Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2015 Illinois

    I reside an hour from UIC. So, a friend and I signed up to volunteer the Saturday 9am-6pm shift, then attend the Saturday night session 6-10. Long day, but being it will be spent at one of the best barrel aged fests of the year, I dont mind at all. I think lunch (pizza) is included, plus get too see the awards ceremony. Also, I think I may try for ice duty as others have mentioned.....the point is I get to attend two sessions in the same day for free...sure there will be some work involved, but meeting new folks, trying some great beers and contributing to a hopeful well run event all seem worth it to me. Cheers everyone.
  4. ryno0384

    ryno0384 Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2015 Illinois

    Does anyone know if the volunteer meeting is mandatory? I cant imagine it is. As long as you show up for your assigned fobab event, thats all that should matter right? Thanks for any confirmation
  5. NBHeart

    NBHeart Crusader (429) Jul 27, 2015 North Carolina

    Can someone post a link to the volunteer sign up please?
  6. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    They had posted this on the FB about a week ago.
  7. Sparty93

    Sparty93 Devotee (363) Aug 29, 2013 Michigan

    I did ice duty last year. Overall, it wasn't a bad gig because you get a chance to walk around and scope out where everything is located. You can also get a good feel for what the most popular beers are based upon line length and when those beers run out. Keep in mind, though, that ice duty is also spit bucket duty. I was less enthused to deal with that.
  8. leefurdwithau

    leefurdwithau Initiate (100) May 22, 2017 Illinois

  9. chitowntink

    chitowntink Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2015 Illinois

    When do they usually send out more information like dates on the volunteer meeting, etc.?
  10. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois

    Im not sure what it'll be this year, but it years past it has been highly encouraged but not mandated. I had something come up a few years ago, emailed Art, and was told to review the instructional packet before the fobab.

    the meetings are usually fun. There are worse weeknights that having a few free beers and eating pizza with 100 other beer fanatics
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  11. macewank

    macewank Zealot (654) Aug 28, 2010 Illinois

    They......they released a list of the breweries who are attending. I believe this is the first time they've ever done it.

    10 Barrel Brewing
    18th Street Brewing
    2 Fools Cider
    3 Floyds Brewing co
    3 Sheeps Brewing co
    4 Hands Brewery
    4 Noses Brewing Company
    5 Rabbit Cerveceria
    Against The Grain
    Allagash Brewing Company
    Almanac Beer Co.
    Alter Brewing Company
    Angry Orchard
    Arclight Brewing Company
    Around the Bend
    Arrowhead Ales Brewing Company
    Atom Brewing Company
    August Schell Brewing Company
    Avery Brewing Company
    Baderbrau Brewing Company
    Ballast Point Brewing Company
    Bear Republic Brewing Company
    Begyle Brewing
    Bell's Brewery Inc
    Bent River Brewing Co
    Blackberry Farm Brewery
    Blue Blood Brewing
    Blue Island Beer Company
    Blue Moon Brewing company
    Blue Nose Brewery
    Blue Point Brewing
    Braxton Brewing Co.
    BrickStone Brewery
    Brickstone Brewpub
    Burn 'Em Brewing
    Byway Brewing Co.
    Cahoots Brewing
    Carson's Brewing
    Cascade Brewing
    Central State Brewing
    Central Waters Brewing Company
    Cerebral Brewing
    Church Street Brewing Company
    Coppertail Brewing
    Coronado Brewing Company
    Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
    Cruz Blanca Brewery
    Crystal Lake Brewing
    Dérive Brewing Company
    Deschutes Brewery
    DESTIHL Brewery
    DESTIHL Restaurant & Brew Works
    Dovetail Brewery
    Empirical Brewery
    Epic Brewing Company
    Evil Horse Brewing Co.
    Excel Brewing Company
    Firestone Walker Brewing Company
    Flossmoor Station Brewing Company
    Forbidden Root
    Forge Brewhouse
    Four Fathers Brewing
    Four Peaks Brewing Company
    Free Will Brewing Co.
    Fremont Brewing
    Goose Island Beer Co.
    Greenstar Brewing
    Grimm Brothers Brewhouse
    Hailstorm Brewing Co
    Half Acre Beer Co.
    Half Day Brewing Company
    Hardywood Park Craft Brewery
    Haymarket Pub & Brewery
    Hopewell Brewing Company
    Horse Thief Hollow
    Illuminated Brew Works LLC
    Imperial Oak Brewing
    Indeed Brewing Company
    Iron Spike Brewing Company
    JT Walker's Brewery
    Karetas Brewing
    La Cumbre Brewing Co.
    Lagunitas Brewing Company
    Lake Bluff Brewing Co
    Lakefront Brewery
    Lil Beaver Brewery
    Lionstone Brewing
    Listermann/Triple Digit Brewing
    Lo Rez Brewing
    Lunar Brewing Company
    Maplewood Brewery & Distillery
    Marble Brewery
    Mark Twain Brewing Company
    Marz Community Brewing
    Metal Monkey Brewing
    Metropolitan Brewing
    Mikerphone Brewing
    Mikkeller Brewing San Diego
    Misbeehavin' Meads
    Miskatonic Brewing Company
    MKE Brewing Co
    MobCraft Beer
    Moody Tongue Brewing Company
    More Brewing Company
    Mothers Brewing
    Nebraska Brewing Company
    New Belgium Brewing
    New Holland Brewing Co
    Noon Whistle Brewing
    Oak Park Brewing Company
    Obed and Isaacs
    Odd Side Ales
    Odell Brewing
    Old Irving Brewing
    Off Color Brewing
    On Tour Brewing
    One Trick Pony Brewery
    Only Child Brewing Co.
    Oskar Blues Brewery
    Peckish Pig
    Penrose Brewing Company
    Perennial Artisan Ales
    Perrin Brewing Company
    pFriem Family Brewers
    Pig Minds Brewing
    Pipeworks Brewing Company
    Pollyanna Brewing Company
    Prairie Krafts
    Prairie Street Brewing Co
    Quaff On Brewing
    RAM Restaurant & Brewery - Wheeling
    Revolution Brewing
    Revolution Brewing - Brewpub
    Rhinegeist Brewery
    Rivertown Brewing Company
    Rock Bottom Brewery Orland Park
    Rock Bottom Brewery - Portland
    Rock Bottom Brewery - Chicago
    Rogue Ale & Spirits
    Saint Archer Brewing Company
    Samuel Adams
    Schlafly Beer (The Saint Louis Brewery)
    Scorched Earth Brewing Co.
    Seattle Cider Company
    Shoreline Brewery
    Short's Brewing Company
    Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
    Ska Brewing
    Sketchbook Brewing Co
    Smylie Brothers Brewing Co.
    Solemn Oath Brewery
    Speciation Artisan Ales
    Spiteful Brewing
    Starcut Ciders
    Stockholm's Vardshus, Inc.
    Stone Brewing
    Sun King Brewery
    Sun King Tap Room & Small Batch Brewery
    Surly Brewing Co.
    SweetWater Brewing Company
    Temperance Beer Co
    Ten Ninety Brewing Co
    The Blind Pig Brewery
    The Bruery & Bruery Terreux
    The Dayton Beer Company
    The Lost Abbey
    The Lucky Monk
    The Rare Barrel
    The Sour Note Brewing
    Tighthead Brewing Company
    Tin City Cider Co
    Transient Artisan Ales
    TRVE Brewing
    Twisted Hippo
    Two Brothers Brewing Company
    Two Roads Brewing Company
    Union Craft Brewing
    Upland Brewery
    Upper Hand Brewery
    Upstream Brewing Company
    Urban Chestnut Brewing Company
    Vander Mill
    Verboten Brewing
    Virtue Cider
    Warped Wing Brewing Company
    Waterfront Brewery
    Watermark Brewing Co.
    WeldWerks Brewing Co.
    Werk Force Brewing Co.
    West Sixth Brewing
    Whiner Beer
    White Oak Brewing
    Wicked Weed Brewing
    Wild Onion Brewery
    Wiley Roots
    Wolf's Ridge Brewing
    Woodfour Brewing Co
    Zaftig Brewing Company

    Tickets still available!
  12. Bbear

    Bbear Zealot (697) Oct 26, 2016 Illinois

    Probably because of the above bold statement. Looks like they're having a hard time selling tickets this year. I wonder why...
  13. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    " The new and improved Fobab 2017- now with more hints of barrel and money grab."

    I think they need to figure out what this fest is. Is it barrel aged GBAF and the goal is to get every brewer to participate in a massive festival, is it an exclusive whale fest of BA one offs and impossible to obtain brewery releases, or is it going to be whatever it looks to be right now which is a lot of the large nationally distributed breweries, local brewers, and a bunch of small brewers we've never heard of looking to get traction? Personally, I'd like to see them trim out a lot of the non-in-demand breweries attending to make it feel a bit more selective and higher end.
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  14. macewank

    macewank Zealot (654) Aug 28, 2010 Illinois

    I think they already have the answer to this. It's a "barrel aged GABF" (in so much that it's a judged competition) that's used to raise funds for the IL Craft Brewers Guild to help them lobby on behalf of the member breweries. Most of the "non in demand" breweries you're referring to are ILCBG members, so you're essentially saying they shouldn't be able to participate in something that directly affects them.
  15. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Is Fobab a fundraiser for ILCBG's work or a marketing tool for IL brewers? If the latter they shouldn't invite other brewers in so they can showcase the IL members, if the former then they could make more money by not having the non-in-demand member brewers there thus raising more money to advocate for them...
  16. macewank

    macewank Zealot (654) Aug 28, 2010 Illinois

    You think they're going to make more money by having less beer? That's an...interesting take.
  17. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Here is a little experiment called quantity vs quality. Go buy a bottle of 2015 Rare and a 24 pack of Budweiser.... Which was more expensive?.Did less beer cost more in this case?
  18. macewank

    macewank Zealot (654) Aug 28, 2010 Illinois

    That's not a valid "experiment". They don't pay a dime for the beer poured at FoBAB. It's all donated. $100 entry fee, 1 keg (or <X> bottles) of beer per session, and a few bottles for judging is the cost expected from every attending brewery.

    Brewers like Goose/Revolution pay big money to the guild for their non-competition corner booths.

    Providing less "choice" to customers isn't ever going to net them more money. Ever. It's not a thing.
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  19. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    There are none so blind as those who will not see....Providing more quality options over quantity options might help them sell out the fest at $80+ a ticket....

    Getting back on topic:

    Very interesting news about GI not getting invite to GABF...how long before Fobab limits big beer representation?http://www.chicagotribune.com/dinin...-great-american-beer-fest-20171005-story.html
  20. mdomask

    mdomask Initiate (0) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    And yet, the article about the Off Color taproom discusses how Laffler views the curated spirit and wine programs (read: less choice) in a positive light. Curation is a thing. I'm not disappointed that I probably won't get Jack, Jameson, and Barefoot at Off Color's bar.

    That said, part of the point of FOBAB is discovery. Heavy curation works against that.

    Given that AC Golden (Coors's experimental arm) won a medal in 2014, probably never. ICBG likes money and FOBAB's mission statement is barrel-aged beer, regardless of producer.

    Plus, AB/InBev-Goose is a huge underwriter. That booth isn't free...
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  21. ahbithwabm

    ahbithwabm Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2013 Illinois

    How much do people usually drink during there shift as a volunteer?
  22. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois

    It’s stll going to sell out. It’ll just be a little later than usually. They’ll be fine.
  23. macewank

    macewank Zealot (654) Aug 28, 2010 Illinois

    Right. Curation has it's place, I'm just saying FOBAB isn't it. It doesn't work with the competition model. One would have to assume that an "in demand brewery" is unable to attend/compete because a "not in demand/small IL brewer" took their spot. In reality, it's... probably not that cut and dry.

    But let's take the competition away and dissect the opinion a bit.

    Firstly, who even determines what "in demand" means? I know which breweries up there I'm itching to try, but....are they the same as yours?

    Second, why do some of the "in demand" breweries not attend? We know for certain that some don't do it because of the cost. 15 gallons of "high end" (to them, to us..whatever) barrel aged product is a big ask, right? We know from prior threads that some don't attend because they know what we all want out of their portfolio and they either can't or aren't willing to send the required quantity.

    And finally. This. This exactly. People are acting like this is the first time tickets have made it into October. Is the price increase hurting sales? Maybe...in fact, probably. It's still going to sell out.
  24. Spider889

    Spider889 Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2010 Ohio

    I love how some facts conveniently get overlooked in the name of entitlement and rare chasing around here.

    The ICBG is a trade organization whose mission is to raise money for Illinois beer. It's a political lobby, an advocate, and in so many ways an aide and educator for it's member breweries.

    The BA is all of this too, only amplified. Is it really such a jarring and hurtful surprise they are limiting big beer's involvement in their events? Big beer advocates for laws and policies that directly impede if not outright harm small brewers.

    Despite big beer's diminishing involvement at GABF, the competition grows larger and tougher every year. I'm ok with it. But even if you're not, at least try to understand the reasoning and move on. Frankly, the BA accepting large donations (end cap booths could cost as much as $32,000 for large brewers) is like a democratic presidential candidate taking money from the NRA or a Republican accepting donations from Planned Parenthood. Yeah it's still money, but it's not going to make their constituents happy or help them forget their true goals.

    Goose Island wasn't banned from entering, ABI chose to make the BA pick which breweries attended (their own political stance). As such GI got shut out. If they were the best brand to rep and best bet on a medal ABI should have hand selected them to go. Notice I don't see any complaining that Elysian and Breckenridge missed out... GI just conveniently has the rarest beer.

    As for breweries at FOBAB, it's simple. FOBAB is a competition so any wholesale limitation on number of breweries tarnishes the quality of the competition. Any can enter, and the rules clearly require them to pour beer to enter. If your favorite rare brewery isn't there contact them. It's not FOBAB's fault. Many choose not to attend for a multitude of reasons. Suggesting they should only pour the rarest most sought after beer is arbitrary, would destroy the competition, mean they take in less money, and STILL wouldn't even mean every brewery you think should attend would.

    I get the frustrations but there's sound reasoning behind all of these decisions and I don't think either organization is going to change their model much anytime soon. Also, both events are still very enjoyable, at least for me.
  25. Sparty93

    Sparty93 Devotee (363) Aug 29, 2013 Michigan

  26. BCurious

    BCurious Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2017 Australia

    Who’d like to do this Aussie a favor and recommend a few non-Chicagoan brewers to check out?* (I say non-Chicagoan because I’ve already done my homework on the local scene.)
    * 3 Floyds excepted - their fame extends as far as Australia.
  27. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Are you talking for Fobab or outside of Fobab? Unless 3 Floyds all of a sudden brings a Dark Lord variant to Fobab, I'd say they have consistently been one of the most disappointing brewers to attend based on what they've brought- stuff that is readily available at their tap room.
  28. Bbear

    Bbear Zealot (697) Oct 26, 2016 Illinois

    How far out of Chicago? Some notable local suburban breweries include Mikerphone in Elk Grove, More in Villa Park, Noon Whistle in Lombard (close to More), Hailstorm in Tinley Park and Solemn Oath in Naperville.
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  29. aussiebeer

    aussiebeer Savant (1,063) Oct 23, 2013 Illinois

    I'll give it go mate, you going outside of Chicago?
  30. BCurious

    BCurious Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2017 Australia

    Sorry, that was a bit unclear - I meant were there any non-Chicago brewers who’ll be at FOBAB whose stands I should make a bee-line for? Although I’m sure that’ll become obvious from the crowd surges!
    In my travels, November, I’ll be doing Chicago and Portland OR - 1 week each. (Yeah, baby!)
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  31. SundayMorninCominDown

    SundayMorninCominDown Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2015 Wisconsin

    Oh boy. Good lucky tallying up all the recommendations you're gonna get to make an overall recommendation. I'll limit myself to four must-trys and one underrated option: Central Waters, WeldWerks, Fremont, Firestone Walker, and 3 Sheeps.
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  32. Bbear

    Bbear Zealot (697) Oct 26, 2016 Illinois

    Portland is great. Be sure to drive to Tillamook for de Garde. The drive to Seattle along the coast is pretty incredible. I recommend it if you can rent a car and have that much time.
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  33. Nbrock24

    Nbrock24 Pooh-Bah (1,674) Mar 11, 2016 Illinois
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    Weldworks was the word of mouth hit of 2016. We’ll see if Perennial brings BA Abraxas or Maman as either would be a huge get
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  34. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,412) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    They are bringing BAA to the STL Beer Fest. I know that's IN st. louis and they are IN st. Louis, but still - I'd like to hope given the size and magnitude of FOBAB that they'd bring one or the other.
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  35. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois

    Honestly, it’s really hard to do it that way. There’s just so much beer.

    Looking at the brewery list, here’s a few of highly regarded breweries that are known to make quality beers. If you see these, you can’t go wrong, and a number never make it out of their city in Texas/California/Colorado etc, so seeing them at a fest in Chicago is kind of a big deal.

    Jester King
    Central Waters
    Firestone Walker
    The Bruery
    Rare Barrel
    Lost Abby
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    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,189) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin

    I'll give a list a go: 18th Street, 3 Floyds, 3 Sheeps, 4 Hands, Allagash, Arclight, August Schell, Avery, Ballast Point, Bell's, Blackberry Farm, Cascade, Central State, Central Waters, Crooked Stave, Deschutes, Dovetail, Epic, Firestone Walker, Forbidden Root, Fremont, Goose Island, Half Acre, Hardywood Park, Haymarket, Jester King, La Cumbre, Lagunitas, Metropolitan, Mikerphone, Mikkeller, More, New Belgium, Odd Side, Odell, Off Color, Oskar Blues, Penrose, Perennial, Perrin, pFriem, Pipeworks, Revolution, Rhinegeist, Saint Archer, Sierra Nevada, Speciation, Spiteful, Stone, Surly, The Bruery, Lost Abbey, Rare Barrel, Sour Note, Transient, TRVE, Upper Hand, Urban Chestnut, WeldWerks, Whiner, Wicked Weed, and Zaftig.

    Good luck!
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  37. BCurious

    BCurious Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2017 Australia

    Cheers for the recommends! I hope others find them as useful as I do. :slight_smile:
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  38. BCurious

    BCurious Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2017 Australia

    Thanks! A number of those I hope to sample during my Chicago/Portland stints. Also a few already export to Australia (true story). Not so bad when you’re talking high-ABV, malt-driven ales that can survive the journey.

    Speaking of which, a real US hit in Australia is Founders. I love their beers! I wonder why they aren’t going to be at the show...
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  39. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    The Sam Adams booth for Utopias if you haven't had it....
  40. Elldawg13

    Elldawg13 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2016 Illinois

    Couldn't agree more. Just got back from the Great American Beer Fest in Denver and they had one of the most disappointing beer offering lineup. I wasn't expecting BA DL but when they bring Zombie Dust, Lasersnake and Flying Tigersault, it's pretty disappointing for those that do not live in the Midwest/Great Lakes region.
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