$27 beers push New York airports to crack down on concessions prices

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  1. Shanex

    Shanex Dec 10, 2015 France
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    This story was previously posted last year in Beer Talk, but there’s an update about it and it’s now being investigated further after customers complaints:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/05/16/airport-beer-prices-new-york

    « An investigation by the transportation authority that oversees three New York City-area airports confirmed customers had paid as much as $27 for a beer at LaGuardia Airport over the past year, leading the organization to announce stronger measures for protecting consumers… »

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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Firstly, I think it is unconscionable that some business(es) would charge $27 for a beer. The other part that I have difficulty with is who is willing to pay this price?

    I used to travel a lot for business and I would refuse to buy beer at the airports since they were too damn expensive (like 10 bucks a pint). I would wait until I reached my destination (or return home) before buying a more reasonably priced beer.

    Are the people who are buying those $27 beers on business travel and their companies would permit them to expense them (my employers never would)? Are these just the same people who have no problem paying >$20 for a four pack? What gives here?

    Cheers!
     
  3. Shanex

    Shanex Dec 10, 2015 France
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    I agree Jack.

    At some point, literally no one forced them to pay $27 for a pint of Sam Adams or whatever else was served at LaGuardia.

    Basically any airport overcharge prices (also food) once you have passed security because you’re « trapped » until your plane take off.

    Same thing could be said of the music or sports venues…
     
  4. defunksta

    defunksta Jan 18, 2019 North Dakota
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    I couldn't even imagine. I suspect it has to be business travel all-expenses paid or the wealthy that don't glance at the price. Hopefully that gets shut down quickly.
     
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  5. champ103

    champ103 Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    I personally never understood drinking at airports or while flying. For me, that was either a work thing (and we where expected to be sober on arrival), a precursor to getting to a cool spot with lots of good food and booze awaiting me, or an addendum to already having lots of good food and booze at a cool place somewhere. I also never thought it was that hard to just wait to get to my destination.
     
  6. Shanex

    Shanex Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Well, I could have only one beer before flying but probably not at such a price. Getting slightly tipsy before or during the flight would be a nope.

    Also not a good call to drink too much even more so during a long haul for evident reason.

    I haven’t taken any plane in years even prior to the pandemic but for very long, e.g transatlantic flights a couple of « downers » and asking the flight attendant to let me sleep was my MO.
     
  7. champ103

    champ103 Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    I have done many flights from Houston to Europe, South Korea, Brazil etc. I never wanted to drink while on a plane. Crappy selection, over priced, and I'd have to get up more often to find the bathroom :slight_smile: Just made getting to the destination that much better :slight_smile: But thats also just me...
     
  8. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Just reiterate, PDX has a "street pricing" policy. If a beer is $6 a pint at the bar down the street, that's the price the airport concessionaire is allowed to charge in the airport. Applies to all vendors. A Big mac is gonna be the same price.

    Start bugging your local Port authority......
     
  9. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Just to be fair to the customers, I don't think I've ever seen a listed price on beer menus at the airport. I learned early on to just avoid having to buy anything at the airport, but I have bought beers a time or two at the airport and unless I asked first I didn't know the price until I got my tab.
     
  10. Giantspace

    Giantspace Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I fly very infrequent. When I do I try to drink 5-6 beers when I get to the airport. I hate to fly so this helps me be “ok” to get on the plane. Last time I flew was home from Milwaukee and I had 4 or 5 20+oz Moon man beers over two hours before boarding. $15 each but worth every penny. I did pay with my per diem so did not really care. I got a ride to Monks and hung there for a few hours drinking $8-12 pours, well worth it after being away over a month working.

    I would not have paid $27 but would have done a few whiskey on the rocks.

    Enjoy
     
  11. officerbill

    officerbill Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    The Port Authority technically answer to both NY & NJ, but in reality the PA and their airports (Newark, La Guardia, JFK) set their own kingdoms. After all, what are you going to do? Fly out of Long Island?
     
  12. AccipiterofBeer

    AccipiterofBeer Nov 28, 2016 New York

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  13. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Mar 28, 2009 California

    recently stayed in Las Vegas and the bellman warned me of the prices for the mini bar and snacks. A Fiji water bottle was $30. He said a lot of people stay there for work Conventions so they just expense the costs. The hotels overcharge knowing people don’t care because they are the ones paying.

    Or they figure people are so drunk they don’t care about the price.
     
  14. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Mar 28, 2009 California

    I like having beers at the airport. Guys trips always start at the airport bar. It’s one of the few places that it seems acceptable to drink at 8am. There is a reason bars are open at breakfast. But I wouldn’t touch a $27 beer.
     
  15. John_M

    John_M Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Increasingly, I've been seeing beer prices on some menus. It's usually in the context of a place that gives you a deal if you buy a large, oversized beer rather than just a pint. You can always ask what the price is of course, which I typically do before ordering. That being said, most of the time it seems like customers just belly up to the bar and place their order without even looking at a menu or asking about the price. I'm sure they're generally aware that they're going to be paying a premium, but have decided they want a drink and don't want to know what the cost is (or have decided they just don't care... for now).
     
  16. nomisugitai

    nomisugitai Mar 11, 2006 New Jersey
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    I like to use my membership passes to get into the lounge at Narita Airport. I can have as many of these that I want by self service.

    Too much money is spent in NJ before the trip over. Anything that can give me a little sleep in an airplane seat is worth it.
     
  17. rgordon

    rgordon Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    I traveled with a small flask of Talisker, which I was quite handy with. Once I noticed an air marshal notice me pouring a small taste. He winked and knew I was harmless and very discreet.
     
  18. ZebulonXZogg

    ZebulonXZogg May 5, 2015 Illinois
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    That's worse that Wrigley Field.......
     
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  19. mactrail

    mactrail Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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  20. cg123

    cg123 Feb 27, 2012 Ohio

    I've always said there are 3 places where drinking at any hour of the morning, afternoon or night if fine: the airport, camping and the beach.
     
  21. JoeSpartaNJ

    JoeSpartaNJ Feb 5, 2008 New Jersey

    Last time I flew out of Newark Airport (January 2020), Lagunitas IPA was $9.50/each. I expected to pay that at an airport, price was high but not outrageous. I limit myself to 2.

    Now I'll go to Yankees games and spend $16/each minimum for anything and don't bat an eye. Weird how that works.
     
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  22. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Mar 28, 2009 California

    I would add casinos.
     
  23. maddogruss

    maddogruss Nov 4, 2006 New Jersey
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    It's rampant price gouging like this that helped James McGill get his career started.

    With that being said, I always thought Newark was the highest priced NYC area airport. Glad to hear I have another reason not to fly out of La Guardia.
     
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  24. bubseymour

    bubseymour Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Unless I can have that pint of beer gone an hour or so before boarding the flight, No thanks on the beer. I have to pee to much and don’t like feeling “flooded” and in pain until the light comes on that you can get up out of your seat with oh usually 1 hr after boarding the plane to a safe cruising altitude.
     
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  25. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Visited Tailgate brewery airport location in Nashville last Friday. Pretty sure the pour was only 7$.
     
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  26. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Free market economy in action. Not sure why this is upsetting people so much.
     
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  27. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    It's kind of the opposite of free market. There's no competition once you're airside. One basically trapped, and, at a certain level, the government is the one profiting.
     
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  28. Squire

    Squire Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Of course I would pay $27 for a beer if that was my only choice. You don't think I'm getting on that thing sober do 'ya.
     
  29. readyski

    readyski Jun 4, 2005 California
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    Pretty sure tailgating before a football game is okay also.
     
  30. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    competition? for a drink? have a soda - have a water.....
     
  31. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Mar 28, 2009 California

    it’s not only ok I think it’s a requirement.
     
  32. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Competition in a closed marketplace doesn't exist. The vendors pay the airport to be it, and they certainly aren't gonna into a price war over the cost of a Coke, when every vendor can set the price for the Coke at a certain price and all can make more money.

    No, there is no competition in the airport.
     
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  33. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I wouldn’t pay this, but I’ll say a couple things.

    If you are well off and you are given per diem, and you don’t care about “saving it,” then hi ho, grab the $27 beer. (…although my first preference would be for many other things, and waiting for a different time, as you said.) Second, if it is direct reimbursement, I can imagine opportunities where someone could slide it through. The easiest example is when all you get is a receipt with the total. Not all business require you submit an itemized receipt if it is from a place that looks like a food store. Years ago when our company had some state work in PA, it was all direct reimbursement. The goal among everyone working that summer was to find the stores where you could make alcohol purchases, get a non-itemized receipt, and that was from a business that didn’t sound like they specialized in booze. So, in that case…Charge that $27. But, again, for that price I’d shift my money elsewhere still.
     
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  34. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Well since I like you all, I will share one of my tips of flying and getting free booze. First of all, count me in the camp that alcohol makes flying less of a burden. I like to indulge if I know that I won't have to drive when I land and don't have an immediate responsibility. I also don't like getting fleeced for drinks in the terminal or on the plane. So here is the tip. Whenever I get on the plane I check out the flight attendant (whether man or woman or other) and I see what kind of flair they have (jewelry, hair, whatever- they always seems to have something) and make sure to compliment it and ask a question about it. I would say about 80% of the time this has resulted in at least one free drink for me. One time, I ended up getting several snacks and 5 nips of whiskey for free. All it took was telling a flight attendant that I really loved the pendant her daughter had made for her. In fairness, it was actually quite nice, so I wasn't lying, but I have found that a little kindness even if faked goes a long way with the harried flight staff. I know that doesn't help with a 27 dollar beer from the terminal, but at least it helps keep the buzz going. Safe travels!
     
  35. AWA

    AWA Jul 22, 2014 California
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    On one hand, who the hell would pay $27 for a beer? On the other hand, I've had some stupid long layovers and madebsone truly questionable choices. I'd like to think thst somebody would be looking out for me and watching the gouging.
     
  36. bubseymour

    bubseymour Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Sort of unrelated, but While we are talking about lucrative profits at an airport, could you imagine how many missed flights there would be if strip clubs were allowed in airports?
     
  37. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Would TSA allow the pointy stripper shoes through security?
     
  38. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Jul 6, 2005 Indiana

    If you fly first class, beers are often free in the lounge :stuck_out_tongue:

    [​IMG]
     
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  39. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Plus some airlines will let you buy a day pass into their lounge.
     
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  40. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania

    At that price, I wonder how old the kegs are? I'm sure they are not flying through them, especially if you can get hard liquor for less.
    If it was a 750ml of Chimay, sure, but a pint of anything under 15% alcohol for that price they can suck it.
    Just get a beer on the plane, if offered. The last time I had beers at an airport was at DuClaw at BWI. They were not too expensive, from what I can recall. Just shitty beer, for the most part, but, at least it wasn't Yuengling Lager or Coor's Light.
    The best way to avoid paying that much for a beer is by not ordering one, especially if it's old.
     
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