38 Degrees Carlsbad is now 83 Degrees

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by sandiego67, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    http://i.imgur.com/lBRK7WH.jpg[img]

    They are opening Wednesday.
     
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  2. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

  3. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

  4. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Jul 7, 2012 California
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    We sure they didn't accidentally use a dyslexic contractor?
     
  5. Bankhead

    Bankhead Jan 31, 2008 California

    the photo's just upside down
     
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  6. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Jul 7, 2012 California
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    Is 83 degrees the temperature at which craft beer burns?
     
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  7. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    I'm gonna be in Carlsbad next month for a few days.

    Someone sell me on why I should stop at this place? I've never heard of it.
     
  8. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Jan 7, 2013 California
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    You probably shouldn't. Just go to Pizza Port instead.

    "83 degrees" attempted to knock off the name of Los Angeles' 38 Degrees and just put a Carlsbad at the end of it. Fuck them.
     
  9. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    Why don't you walk in the doors and try the place next week before you shit all over it? At this point, the owner has made the right choice and changed the name.

    If the place is crappy after it opens, then you can go ahead and bitch.
     
  10. vacax

    vacax Jun 3, 2008 California
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    Props to the owner for changing the name but that name is stupid.
     
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  11. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    You tree huggers should be happy that he decided to recycle the signage instead of dumping a big orange "8" and a big orange "3" in the local landfill.
     
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  12. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    If he figures out a meaning for the 83 degrees, I'll definitely go. :)
     
  13. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

  14. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Jan 9, 2013 California

    Hopefully this place is closed within a few months.
     
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  15. teamizm

    teamizm Feb 4, 2005 California

    This is just a bunch of companies that use "83 Degrees" in their company name; it does little to shed any light on "reference". I can name a beer bar Syphillis and you can possibly find other business' that have the word "Syphillis" in their name, but it provides no reference why I named my beer bar Syphillis.
     
  16. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Jan 7, 2013 California
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    Because it took this long and the 11th hour legal threat to change it shows more about the man's character and business practice that you can tell if it's a duck if it walks and talks like one?
     
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  17. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    It's across the street from Pizza Port. Definitely couldn't hurt to take a look in there.
     
  18. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    It took less than 30 days to change out his business name, logo. marketing, signage. Sounds like he really dragged his feet.

    The story came to light in mid-February.

    http://thefullpint.com/beer-news/38-degrees-blindsided-by-carlsbad-restaurant-owner/
     
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  19. jmgrub

    jmgrub Nov 20, 2010 California

    Friday was my first time at PP Carlsbad. I had heard this story a few weeks ago but had no idea that the establishment at issue was in such close proximity to PP. I saw the [new 83] sign, it clicked in my head, and I lolled.
     
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  20. heatwaves

    heatwaves Oct 17, 2009 California
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    Couldn't the owner of the Carlsbad location simply change the name to "38 degrees Kelvin"?

    Or "38 degrees of Kevin Bacon"?
     
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  21. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    Now why would you wish that on somebody trying to open a business??
     
  22. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Apr 5, 2006 California

    Because the owner tried to snipe an existing (and popular) beer bar's name up north, fully knowing the original owner was dumb enough not to trademark the name. Smart business? maybe. Total slimy asshole move? Completely.

    I am all for slimy asshole owners not having a successful craft beer business.
     
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  23. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    He changed the name. Sure he changed it to a dumb name but signs are very expensive. He could have easily kept the 38 degrees name if he really wanted to.
    Side note- There are thousands of smiley assholes that have a successful craft beer business lol.
     
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  24. nocturne1

    nocturne1 Aug 25, 2009 California

    I can't wait for his next restaurant to open up - Slater's 51/49...
     
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  25. heatwaves

    heatwaves Oct 17, 2009 California
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    Slater's 51/49 is nowhere near as tasty as Out N' In Burger.
     
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  26. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    The most prevalent mention of 83 degrees is a promotional magazine for Tampa, Florida (I am guessing that number refers to their average high temperature or something like that). Maybe he has plans on bringing some Cigar City beers to San Diego!

    [snicker]
     
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  27. nanobrew

    nanobrew Dec 31, 2008 California

    it is the temp at which beer exits your body
     
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  28. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    Serious hypothermia!
     
  29. riko

    riko Jan 18, 2008 California
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    If only he'd spelled out "thirty eight degrees." Then he could've renamed it "Greedy Heights" or something.
     
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  30. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    I saw this when I was at PP on Friday. Funny.
     
  31. 395er

    395er Apr 29, 2011 California

    I live right up the street from this place (and obviously Pizza Port). I'm bummed about how this whole thing went down. We can really use additional interesting options in the neighborhood, and this guy has blown it. I'd be more encouraged if his previous restaurant in this space hadn't been a failure, and if he'd handled this naming issue more professionally. I'll be curious to see what tap handles he's able to get.
     
  32. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    It is the same owner as the wine bar, Paon. He has one decent restaurant (Paon) and one failure (The Catch) on his resume. Since he deals in high-end wines, I hope that he figures out the local beer scene.
     
  33. 395er

    395er Apr 29, 2011 California

    ^ Yeah, I know. Paon is actually doing well, and though I've only eaten in the lounge, it's well executed. Catch was such an aesthetic nightmare, I'm wondering if they had a consultant for Paon and then tried to go solo. I'm a bit ambivalent about 83 degrees now. I want to support a local biz, but he's making it hard. I wish Compass had a bit better food menu, because their tap list is usually strong and I like the vibe.
     
  34. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

  35. CraftyRalphie

    CraftyRalphie Mar 7, 2013

    These people first named their first restaurant in Carlsbad (now Paon) Per Se, until they got a similar love letter from Thomas Keller in New York about using the name of his world famous restaurant.

    Next, they take the name "Catch" from a seafood restaurant in Santa Monica and place it on their now defunct seafood restaurant in Carlsbad.

    You can bet their hopeful use of the name 38 Degrees was of like ingenuity.
     
  36. CraftyRalphie

    CraftyRalphie Mar 7, 2013

    When they opened Paon, they took the chef and the EXACT same menu from another restaurant in San Diego, where one of the Paon partners worked for a long time.
     
  37. 395er

    395er Apr 29, 2011 California

    Damn. Boosting more ideas. Well, 83 degrees has an open banner up, and while driving past I saw what looked like a lot of tap handles through a garage style door open to the street. I'll take a look.
     
  38. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    That restaurant would be the WineSellar & Brasserie. I guess this is Mayur Pavagadhi's favorite business model.
     
  39. 395er

    395er Apr 29, 2011 California

  40. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Feb 25, 2008 California

    I was there last night. It is very similar to the LumberYard in Encinitas and on par with The Compass but with TV's. They will take some business from Cantina Mas Fina, G-Spot and The Compass. They aren't child friendly so the crowds at Pizza Port will probably stay put.
     
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