40ozs. Why are America's craft breweries not making them?

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  1. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    I don't know about you all, but I first started drinking beer in 40oz form when I was a kid. And I still do drink 40s occasionally. But I'm always wishing that it was full of a bomb ass pale ale, lager or IPA, really any style that isn't too intense. But hell, why not a Barleywine or Imperial Stout too..Schlitz, Steel Reserve, Olde English 800 HG, Hurricane etc. are all 8%-9%. I want a 40 of Olde Rasputin:angry: .

    Anyone else feel me? I'm sure there are reasons breweries don't want to start bottling beer that way. but damn well makes sense to me. I hope someone else shares my opinion and gives it a shot.
  2. JoeyDankNug

    JoeyDankNug Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2011 New York

    Dude really?just buy a 4 pack and drink them all
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  3. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    My guess would be that North Coast Brewing does not want there customers to start shooting each other.
  4. dap325

    dap325 Initiate (151) Apr 2, 2009 New York

  5. JohnQVD

    JohnQVD Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2011 New York

    They're illegal in at least one state (Florida), for one. They're associated with crappy, high alcohol malt liquor, for another. Also, they can be seen to encourage overconsumption.

    Anyway, if you want that much, buy by the case. Or buy growlers.
  6. beerme411

    beerme411 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2010 California

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  7. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    You have a good point man, it may sound a bit ridiculous and a lot of people wouldn't agree, but at the same time drinking a 40 is different and a classic experience for me. Something about the size and shape of the bottle in your hand, it's perfect and I've always liked it. People who fuck with 40s would understand. But then of course, many people prefer to pour into glasses anyway, and there's the last bit of the 40, usually flat and full of backwash.
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  8. EyePeeAyBryan

    EyePeeAyBryan Crusader (704) Dec 20, 2011 Arizona
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    Buy multiple bottles. Case closed.
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  9. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    I'll keep on dreaming
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  10. rholmes

    rholmes Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Florida

    This. I live in Florida, and a lot of people that have lived here all of their life have no clue what a 40 is. Maybe it's an issue of what the price point would be as well? If you figure that 22oz bottles can go from the $6 to $12 range (and up in some cases), you would assume the 40oz would sell for a minimum of $10 and up. I have no idea what the actual number of people is that will try something at that size, but I gotta assume most people aren't going to just drop $10 and up to try something for the first time.
  11. JoeyDankNug

    JoeyDankNug Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2011 New York

    I used to love a good colt 45 myself.widemouth fool!but a 40 or old Rasputin?thats crazy kid......a 40 of pliny would be pretty killer though
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  12. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma

    Forties have many redeeming qualities. You only have to open them once, as opposed to multiple times. Therefore reducing the risk of permanent hand nerve damage which may arise from multiple hand twisting/pop-toppings. Plus, one trip to the garbage bin as compared to several, conserves energy.
  13. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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  14. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    ya tell me you don't wanna play edward 40 hands with Pliny
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  15. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma

    I want the Blatz. I mean, I REALLY want it.
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  16. JoeyDankNug

    JoeyDankNug Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2011 New York

    Nope,I'm sayin I would love to.
  17. beerme411

    beerme411 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2010 California

    I'm not so concerned with the size, but I would like to see more well done malt liquors.
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  18. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma

    I have no idea what Edward hand games are. I'm from back in the day when "the quarter game" was big. My college age daughter did teach me some new stuff recently, but with the onslaught of senility, I cain't 'member a dam thang she said.:slight_smile:
  19. einhorn

    einhorn Disciple (301) Nov 3, 2005 California
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    They probably don't make them because most (or almost all) bottling lines do not accommodate this size. Or one may need parts which may or may not be available for that particular bottling set up.
  20. BrewStew58

    BrewStew58 Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2011 New York

    You tape a 40 to each of your hands and can't remove them until they are both empty.
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  21. copslovebeer

    copslovebeer Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2012 Minnesota
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    Give it a few months, Lagunitas is fulfilling your request with 36 oz bottles of Sucks. 36 is clse enough to 40. Excited I am. Drunk I will be!
  22. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma

    Sounds kinda fun. Do I get to choose Duct, black electrical, or Scotch invisible? Or is this some freeky type of bondage thang?
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  23. TheSixthRing

    TheSixthRing Poo-Bah (2,732) Sep 24, 2008 California

    One of my fondest memories of Grandma was of her drinking a 40 of Coors when my older brother graduated High School.
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  24. Googs

    Googs Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 New York
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    Can't wait either, a perfect beer to have in that size bottle
  25. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    The fun begins when you fall down, break glass, piss yourself and cut balls.
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  26. MasterSki

    MasterSki Site Editor (6,626) Dec 25, 2006 Ontario (Canada)
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    The best I could come up with was DFH Liquor de Malt and People's Pint Tap & Die for Edward 40 hands. Terrible idea, by the way...
  27. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma

    Been there, done that. The "Fun" is not as "fun" as it appears to be. :slight_smile:
  28. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    Yes please. Anyone hating, gtfo (in a kind, non-threatening way.)
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  29. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Aspirant (244) Sep 21, 2012 Texas
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    The reason why is while a 22oz or 750ml carries an air of sophistication that allows one to charge a premium over a 12oz, a 40 has the exact opposite impression so you would probably have to charge less than you would for a 12oz. That would make it real stupid to buy a separate bottling line to lose money.
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  30. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,291) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Langunitas' new bottles will be quarts - 32 US fl. oz. - so, not quite as close to the 40 (figure 2/3 of a 12 oz. bottle away).
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  31. zstef99

    zstef99 Initiate (52) Dec 25, 2008 New York

    It's likely to cost more per ounce and it will force you into drinking three glasses in a sitting. What's the advantage exactly?
  32. IamMe90

    IamMe90 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2012 Wisconsin

    I don't have nostalgia with 40s because they well, uh, suck, and if I wanted cheap liquor in high school, cheap vodka or everclear (vomit) was the route to go.

    I can see why some people here have nostalgia associated with 40s and the advantages that format may hold for them, however, as a poor part-time employed student, I don't need another format to jack up the $/oz. Good chance I'll be getting a full time job soon though, so when that happens: bring on the 40s **************!!!!!
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  33. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas
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    That's a fantastic story.
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  34. JAramini

    JAramini Aspirant (230) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    Given that many people bemoan high alcohol beers only being available in bombers, I don't know that many "feel you" or agree that "bomb ass" beers need to be distributed in extra large containers.

    You can get beers in 12 oz, 22 oz, 25.4 oz (750mL), 32 oz (half growlers - not sure if they're common everywhere), and 64 oz sizes. If you so badly need a 40 of an imperial stout, save a bottle, grab a funnel, and dump a few in. Then, you may recognize how silly this is.
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  35. JohnB311

    JohnB311 Initiate (150) Aug 19, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Most craft breweries probably aren't equipped to fill a 40oz. bottle with their bottling line.
  36. Jason311

    Jason311 Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2012 Virginia

    Rogue makes high volume jugs. Does that help? :slight_smile:
  37. TheJollyHop

    TheJollyHop Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2009 California

    See the "fun" is actually for the people around you :wink:
  38. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    No, because you said Rogue.
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  39. Reinbeck11

    Reinbeck11 Aspirant (274) Aug 15, 2012 Iowa

    Um no that would take away one of the better points of the game!!! Foo Shoo!!!
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  40. Gassygunslinger

    Gassygunslinger Initiate (23) Dec 20, 2012 Maine

    Craft breweries have had to fight tooth and nail to convince people that beer isn't just this tasteless fizzy drink for the sole purpose of getting you "wicked drunk bro".

    It takes the focus from "we care about flavor" to "GIT DRUNK BRA!"

    Will it always necessarily be the case? Of course not. There's plenty of us who just want a nice session beer. But people will take it the wrong way, and tarnish a lot of what these folks have been fighting against.

    Give it a few more years. Canned craft beer is still settling in, after all.
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