6-Pack Can Holders

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  1. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    Can someone explain the new 6-pack can holders I've been seeing recently? Previously, they were the normal plastic rings (the kind we are all told to cut to save the lives of fish) that we have seen forever and are used on both soda and beer. Now it's the larger, heavier plastic kind that sort of encapsulates the entire top of the can. Sorry, wish I had a pic.

    Why change? The old ones seemed fine and used less material. Something to do with the manufacturing process? Just looks fancier?
     
  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I honestly have no idea, I see them and think the same thing....why?

    My only guess would be the environmentalists wanted them because of the choking bird thing, since these don't have hoops that need cut. Otherwise they do take more plastic to make and cost more.
     
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  3. pschul4

    pschul4 Zealot (562) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois
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    I hate them as well. Much harder to get my Daisy Cutter and Outlaw out of :slight_frown:
     
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  4. ShanePB

    ShanePB Poo-Bah (1,651) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Some input:
    Source
     
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  5. abraxel

    abraxel Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 Michigan

    I don't know the brewers' actual reasons, but I have a few guesses:
    - the new style prevents stuff from getting on the top, so when you open the can and submerge the tab you're less likely to get crap in the beer
    - more dolphin friendly!
    - the material might be more recyclable, or maybe consumers are more likely to think to recycle it (not sure about this one)
    - the old fish-killers look "cheap" and evoke the image of shitty beer. Craft cans with the heavier holder might generally look like higher quality packaging, thus seeming like a higher quality product.
     
  6. ShanePB

    ShanePB Poo-Bah (1,651) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    The article I linked above supports that. I also think your #2 and #4 points could be very plausible as well.
     
  7. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    They do look classier, I will give them that.
     
  8. DevilsCups

    DevilsCups Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2010 New York

    First time I ever noticed them was on Heady. I like them, but sometimes they can be a PITA to release a can from.
     
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  9. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Crusader (736) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    This, my fellow BAs, is called progress. Whether it costs more, I can't tell you but since when were companies willing to spend more on packaging unless they felt it helped sell more product or deliver their product to the consumer in better condition. Therefore, everyone is correct. It looks better, protects the top better and is better for the fishies. More plastic? This is America. Sell, sell, sell and worry about the consequences later. Geez, my undergraduate economics class was useful after all.
     
  10. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Aspirant (238) Jun 10, 2008 Missouri
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    I like the old ones because they kill penguins. God I hate penguins.
     
  11. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Billy Madison?
     
  12. lvoutlawjlh

    lvoutlawjlh Disciple (303) Mar 15, 2012 Nebraska
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    Happy Feet? haha
     
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  13. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Aspirant (238) Jun 10, 2008 Missouri
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    The Zoo.
     
  14. slangtruth

    slangtruth Initiate (199) Jan 8, 2012 Massachusetts

    I don't know about those, but I bought a six of SN Summerfest in some new plasticy ring-type gizmo they were trying, and it actually popped off a cap on one as I struggled to get it out. So I was forced to drink it then and there, where it was heading for the fridge before. Nothing wrong with cardboard, SN, it's bio-degradable!
     
  15. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Poo-Bah (1,955) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    They're much louder, not good for all of you Quiet Snobs out there.
     
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  16. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas
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    PETA and other liars. I can tell you from years and years of on hand experience of aquatic life as a profession that fish are not that dumb.
     
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  17. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    Austin Beerworks & Southern Star use these down here... I like it because it protects the top of the can. And it's classier. No need to worry about dirty can tops or other "matter". Bleh.
     
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  18. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Disciple (338) Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    One advantage of the new covers is they keep the hooligans from opening the cans in the stores.

    While the new covers aren't a easy to remove, my fat, arthritic fingers don't have any problem getting to the goodies.
     
  19. ajfa531

    ajfa531 Aspirant (233) Jun 2, 2007 New Jersey
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    I kept a few of the new style holders that came with Heady because they can be reused. A nice way to bring a variety of cans easily.

    I agree that they can also permit less surface area for rats to shit on the tops. That's a plus.

    I, also, like that the Heady rings are No. 2 recyclables as my town decided to only permit No. 1 and No. 2 recyclable plastics. That's a big plus to me and something I was thinking about while cutting up an older-style plastic ring today.

    - Joe
     
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  20. cevafm

    cevafm Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Here's my opinion. First it prevents breakage. I have to return to the distos several cases of Pabst tall-boys every month because a customer picks it up, the cheap cardboard crumples up, and 1 or more of the cans pop out of the rings, and falls on the floor breaking open.

    Secondly it's probably cheaper then shrink-wrapping the container, like most of the imports do. I would actually prefer a combination of higher quality cardboard and shrink-wrapping of the container while keeping the old plastic rings, rather then these new holders that look pretty but still leave the cans exposed.
     
  21. loudmouth

    loudmouth Aspirant (245) May 24, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Being No.2 recycleable was important to a couple breweries I talked to. If you're really having that much trouble getting the cans out, you may want to consider getting some exercise or having your husband do it for you. :wink:
     
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  22. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (5,075) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Snake River and Wind River use them in WY. I like 'em.
     
  23. RattleheadKV2

    RattleheadKV2 Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2011 New Mexico

    All the breweries in New Mexico that can use these too. I quite like them, they're a bit classier, and as someone pointed out earlier, reuseable.
     
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  24. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Initiate (174) Dec 28, 2011 Texas
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    They are a lot easier to put the cans back into. Not that you ever really need to though...
     
  25. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,602) Nov 16, 2009 California
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    Do you club seal pups as well?

    Cheers!
     
  26. Geno78

    Geno78 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2010 Ohio

    I never understood why 12 packs come in a cardboard box, but six packs don't. Why not just make a smaller box?

    I also agree that it's tough to get the cans out of the new ones.
     
  27. Mothergoose03

    Mothergoose03 Poo-Bah (1,807) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Hmmm. Is PITA one of those recyling codes? :wink:
     
  28. shand

    shand Meyvn (1,416) Jul 13, 2010 Florida
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    21st Amendment does their six-packs in a small box, and it works out very well for them. Plenty of space for their distinctive art.
     
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  29. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Aspirant (238) Jun 10, 2008 Missouri
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    Boulevard puts their sixers in card board boxes... however, I don't like them. You have to pull the whole box out, open it, close it, put it back in the fridge.... much easier to just grab a beer out of an open sixer.
     
  30. olympicgatorade

    olympicgatorade Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2011 New Jersey

    These things look so stupid
     
  31. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Crusader (736) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    FT: plastic holder for Heady Topper four pack.
    ISO: what will you give me for it?
     
  32. carolinabeerguy

    carolinabeerguy Savant (918) Oct 10, 2005 North Carolina
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    I was wondering about these when I bought some Cigar City Maduro cans the other day. A quick Google search led me to this thread. Good info. Thanks.
     
  33. brewbetter

    brewbetter Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    dislike
     
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  34. mikeburd1128

    mikeburd1128 Zealot (505) Oct 28, 2011 New Jersey

    It's not tough to get the cans out of these new ones. You just have to be aggressive when pulling them out. My question is what is the alternative to brewers using these new holders? I find it hard to believe they'd just be throwing the old rings around them and calling it a day - looks cheap. Would they be using boxes like 21st Ammendment/Sixpoint? If the alternative is boxes, then yes, this is probably a better option. I'm not sure of the cost, but I'd be willing to bet that more of these holders get recycled than boxes would be.
     
  35. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    I always recycle these plastic holders, something that is not possible with the old plastic rings (as far as I know).
     
  36. KYGunner

    KYGunner Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Kentucky

    I took a tour of West Sixth Brewery in Lexington and they use the new 6-pack binders. They cited the same reasons given prior but also said they are reusable. If you drop one off at the brewery they will wash it and just pop the cans back in. It is the ultimate recyclable.
     
  37. brewbetter

    brewbetter Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    Most local facilities can't recycle them, but I think they are recyclable. They are also photo-biodegradable.
     
  38. Bogforce

    Bogforce Disciple (332) Sep 2, 2010 Ohio

    I feel like less of a beer nerd after this.....
     
  39. SamW

    SamW Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2012 North Carolina

    Reusable, and recyclable. At least that's what the brewery that I first saw them at told me
     
  40. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    Ah, good to know. We have one of the fancy no-sort recycling places that take many varieties of plastic but I wouldn't be shocked if the shape of the plastic would be an issue. I hope they are being recycled! Maybe I should just start keeping them and bringing them back to Waterbury....
     
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