$90 BA Alesmith Speedway Stout...?

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by lokieman, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. lokieman

    lokieman Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2011 Oklahoma

    I recently was offered a BA Speedway Stout but the price tag was $90. I didn't pull the trigger but was wondering what these bottles went for retail. We don't get Alesmith distro where I'm at and this offer was made online. I didn't think this was that limited or rare...for comparison the same website has a King Henry for the same price. Any info would be appreciated...
  2. JustXBeer

    JustXBeer Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    less than $30 during release. 4 bottle max...in person (no proxies) pickup. Hope this helps.
  3. lokieman

    lokieman Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2011 Oklahoma

    That does help a lot...thought $90 was really high. Thanks...appreciate the info
  4. Shoo65

    Shoo65 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    What website?
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  5. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (11,900) Mar 18, 2010 California

    They are like $27 plus a service fee per bottle when they are released, so probably close to $30 like already stated.
  6. claaark13

    claaark13 Zealot (504) Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    Was this website ebay? I didn't know they were selling beer again.
  7. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts

    I'm also curious about the site. You can BM if you'd rather
  8. LieutenantSour

    LieutenantSour Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2011 California

    It was $28.94 a bottle, and roughly a 2700 bottle release
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  9. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    I'd say it's limited and rare considering you have around 10 - 20 minutes each year to buy any from 1 place, in person. King Henry is still on the shelf in Kentucky.
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013

    Since when is King Henry limited or rare?
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  11. Thecherryman

    Thecherryman Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2010 Arizona

    King henry is on the shelf in kentucky? lol
  12. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    as well as Rare I hear!
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  13. Thecherryman

    Thecherryman Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2010 Arizona

    get after it boys, chug em
  14. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    Couple of different things

    a) $90 is about 3x times the price at release
    b) BA Speedway is limited (2700 bottles), KH was not (12K bottles IIRC). However, that means nothing in terms of demand and "rarity"
    c) BA Speedway was sold online, sold out fairly quickly, 4 bottle limit and no proxies allowed

    You can always trade for BA Speedway, but it depends on what you have to offer (a $30 limited release could get it done where as $90 of shelf beers might not). It isn't impossible to get, but will take something with a similar pedigree and release situation.
  15. lokieman

    lokieman Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2011 Oklahoma

    Thanks for the info...man I didn't realize KH was that big of a release. Probably just going to order the non ba Speedway and see if I really want to trade for the BA version. No way I'm paying $90 for the bottle...
  16. tobelerone

    tobelerone Poo-Bah (1,973) Dec 1, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    I see you're in Austin...someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd think a few Jester King limited releases could get it done.
  17. lokieman

    lokieman Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2011 Oklahoma

    I've never put out an ISO for a ba speedway but I do have a trade for a non ba version in the works. I'd like to get a hold of a ba speedway eventually but feel I should try the base beer first...from everything I've heard though I'm pretty sure it's not going to suck. I'm sure some Jester King stuff will be involved if I can track down a deal for the barrel version...
  18. podunkparte

    podunkparte Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Washington

    Just reading through this, it sounds like the OP is still learning the ins and outs of which beers are brewery releases/shelf/limited. Don't take this as an insult or anything, it takes time to figure out what's going on in other parts of the country in terms of beer releases and what people think they're worth.

    Basically regular Speedway and BA speedway may as well be completely different beers (I know, they are) in the trading world. The regular Speedway is available it various places across the country on the shelf for about $12, all the time. It's an outstanding beer and I suggest you get a few so you can age a couple after you try a fresh one. BA Speedway however is only released at the brewery and sells out pretty much immediately. This makes it WAY more valuable when it comes to trading. Would I say it's worth $90 this far after the release, from the comfort of your home? Probably not, but I wouldn't say it's that far off. What would it take for you to find a similarly rated limited release beer, including the gas and time spent as opposed to just spending the money and getting the beer?
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  19. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,360) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    freddie charges $18 a bottle for KBS. If he had a BA Alesmith it would be $150.00.
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  20. lokieman

    lokieman Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2011 Oklahoma

    I admit I had no idea it was a brewery only release until it was revealed to me in this thread. 2700 bottles is limited but no more limited than most of the JK releases (generally 200 cases is what they put out for most of their releases at this point). I realize BA Speedway has a lot more publicity and more of a market so not on the same level as far as demand goes. I think the fact that it is brewery only is what drives the cost up. Although the JK stuff is limited around here it's also sold at liquor stores and bottle shops around the city and state (it's illegal to sell from the brewery direct to the public in TX). The price is $90 because there are people out there who will ultimately pay that much. This is my first real inquiry in to Alesmith stuff and know that there other stuff is affordable and usually shelf beers...had no idea that the BA Speedway was such an event...which ultimately is the answer I was looking for when I was quoted $90 for the bottle. Thanks for all the info...
  21. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    He's the only who gets it. Peter Z doesn't even have any.
  22. APreacher

    APreacher Initiate (120) Jun 6, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    I am in same boat when it comes to production/released quantities. I generally look at ratings or availability before I look at production size. However you really can't compare BASS or any of the limited releases from AS to TX beers.No disrespect towards Texans, but we has mad people Y0!! LA, Orange and SD counties probably has 15 million people, which makes those 2700 bottles look petite. I guess I will cuddle mine tighter tonight knowing this.
    What drives most of the great beers in so-cal is the volume of people iso...There are just TOO MANY craft beer drinkers in CA!I guess you could call that publicity/market.
    I was traveling thru Austin over the holidays and tracked down some JK..I was fortunate & suprised to find a small store (off 6th) that had plenty of JK on the shelves (funk,buddha,wunder).
    I was also able to get Ranger Creek b3 and Karbach Fra-Gee-Lay without going to breweries or using BPT. By no means am I comparing those to BASS, nor disrespect towards Texans... but those beers wouldn't last a week in CA.
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