A Top 100 Retired Beers?

Definitely would like to see this.

They don't appear in the Top Lists of the styles or regions which makes sense.

As far as i can tell, the only way to search for the top retired beers is to know what they are and search by name.

 

I've been wanting one for quite sometime. I would imagine the coding for filtering beers with a retired status wouldn't be too hard, but then again I don't know shit about coding.

 

I would like to see a Top 100 Retired, and a Top 100 All Time (combined top 100 including both retired and active beer with the same review # criteria to make the list/weight as necessary).

It is very frustrating to not know about many of the best beers because they are retired. It took me a random FT to learn about Lente... that's just not right.

 

Not hard at all, but theres only 1 programmer I believe. I'm guessing hes spending the majority of his time developing a Beeradvocate app. Sounds like a good idea though.

 

I would also really like to see both of these lists.

 

This list did exist, Thorpe did the programming if i remember correctly, but it had to be recalculated every few weeks to stay accurate since it was not integrated, but it was awesome.

I think it was sometime around 2010 that this list was around.

 

I'd love to see this. Still, I don't expect it to happen.

 

I believe the Bros have stated their opinion on this

 

I'm not sure I agree with it having "little value," nor do I see the harm in having one more list anyway; if there's a Top New Beer list why can't there be a Top Old Beer list? I understand that it doesn't have the same immediate utility as a new beer list, in that you can't go out and buy most of the best retired beers, but I think it would still be interesting for most users just to have available just for the sake of knowledge, and would help people learn more about some of the older, almost historical beers.

 

How exactly does a beer get retired?

Kuhnhenn Raspberry Eisbock is on the list but hasn't been brewed since 2007. Is it just whenever one of the mods feels like retiring a beer? Or the amount of time elapsed since last review?

 

I thought it was supposed to be after a beer hasn't been brewed in one year, but some beers manage to stay up for longer, like I'm pretty sure Dirty Horse hasn't been brewed within the last year but it's still on the top 100 list. It's not based on most recent review; Lente gets reviewed pretty often but hasn't been brewed since 2010 so it's listed as retired.

 

More than a year since released, and some evidence it's not being made again. The Armands were always a one time thing, so they are being aggressively retired. On the opposite side of things, some beers have a known 2 year cycle, like The Dissident, so won't be retired. Dirty Horse puzzles me, as it's only been brewed twice (and really only released once, after the second brewing, as best I understand), and I don't think that the fact that they continue to trickle out kegs of it ought to matter. However, I have learned that the rules around here are far from rational.

 

I'm pretty sure it gets retired when someone submits a change request and says that it's retired, ideally citing the brewer(y) saying they plan never to brew it again. There's not a hard and fast rule, to my knowledge.

As for Kuhnhenn, they've said multiple times that they're planning to release a new batch of Raspberry Eisbock at some point in the indeterminate future, but don't have any more details than that. Just this morning someone asked about it on their facebook page and they responded "We are trying.....no promises." I think vague statements like that are just barely enough to keep it from being marked retired on BA.

 

A list of retired beers? Why - so I can re-live what I missed the first time? No thanks.

 

Sounds like everyone first needs the BA definition of a retired beer.

 

Just because you wouldn't find it valuable / interesting doesn't mean no one would.

I think it's pretty hard to justify the Bottom of the List being a valuable addition to the site, but not a top retired / all-time beers.

 

I was wondering if there's a way to sort all of the beers catalogued on BA by BA score (for example...I'd love to be able to see what all of the 100 rated beers are, retired or not) but can't figure out a way to do it.

Obviously the Top 250 helps -- but for example, it'd be cool to see that BA Batch 9000 is a 100 rated beer with a lot of reviews, just is retired so won't make any lists. I'd like to see what else is out there like that...

If anyone has any thoughts, that'd be great! Thanks!