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Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by VladTepes, Jan 21, 2013.
Have you guys aged Jolly Pumpkin beers? What do you think about that?
Yep, and they are good. I have bought OLD stock that sat on a shelf 3-4 years and it wasn't bad. I have stuff I bought fresh, cellared at 50ish, and opened a year later and it was great. For some reason it tends to sit here, maybe no one can get past the lack of English names.
I can find a few JP's, which are from year 2011. Probably I should buy those and they are still good? How they usually change with time?
Do you think, that those lower ABV (~ 4,5 %) are also still good?
The only low ABV one I have had old is Calabaza Blanca, which, becomes more wine like. It had less hop with spice, more of a combined flavor, like it was all there at once subdued, not in shifts. I hope that makes sense.
If you can get an old La Roja try that out first. See if you like it, go from there. I like the Bams fresh, and Maracaibo Especial I have sitting to age more now, but I expect it to be good next fall.
I've read a few different things about bottles exploding when stored for extended periods. Given how every fresh(ish) bottle I've opened has gushed foam, I believe it.
I had a bottle of Cinco Anos explode this weekend. I just slightly clinked it with another bottle and BOOM
Never had one break. Many of the bottle conditioned I have only had fresh. La Roja, I don't believe, is bottle conditioned.
I love aged Oro De Calabaza
How it differs from fresh one?
I have had Oro de Calabaza only once. It was about 6 months old. And yeah, it was awesome!
I think the Brett character becomes a little more forward after some time. A little mustiness, very nice. Excellent at any age but I particularly like this one with some age. I've never done a fresh vs aged of this beer side by side but I'd love to.
I aged the La Roja 3 years and it was amazing. Best to buy in pairs or more and try over a period of time. Take notes so you know where your sweet spot is.
I bought 2 bottles of la roja, drank one fresh and didnt love it. I dont like the vinegary notes. I still have the other bottle. Does the vinegar charactristic go away when aged, or become more pronounced? I'm still getting used to sours...
I personally prefer most of the jp beers I have had when they were a year or older, a little time allows the yeast to develop and a certain barnyard funkiness develops. It is not for everyone but I really enyoy the extra funk that age brings to their brews
stoked to find this thread. I just drank my first ODC two nights ago, and have a couple others including La Roja that I was wondering if I should sit on for a little bit or not. I might pick up a few more because i almost instantly fell in love. It didnt destroy my wallet and I really enjoyed how it was drinking.
I found a May 2010 bottle of Luciernaga at an off the beaten path liquor store last night. It exploded like a shaken bottle of champagne before I even had the cap half off. I poured a glass and it still continued to foam out the top. Probably lost 1/4 of the bottle. The bottle was dusty on a shelf and took a car ride less than two miles before sitting in a fridge for two hours. I've never seen a bottle go so crazy.
When I had it fresh I remember liking it but it being near the bottom of the Jolly Pumpkins I had tried. This time however I really loved it. The tastes seemed more intense rather than mellowed and it had more of a sourness to it. We had it right after a fresh Noel de Calabaza (which I had previously really enjoyed) and found that the Lucy blew it away.
I find most bottle conditioned beers benefit from a day or two in the fridge, see much less over the top foaming etc that way.
I prefer JP beers with a year+ on them. More Brett, more lactic, flavors a bit more rounded. That being said 2 years on la roja and two on fuego del otono are pure bliss in a bottle
I just wish they weren't so expensive.
I just drank a 2009 Noel de Calabaza last Friday night. It was very tasty. Aged really well.
This and I wish they came in smaller format sizes.
May as well just buy Petrus Aged Pale then.
Apparently I'm one of the few that likes JP stuff much better fresh.
I've been seeing stubby bottles of Oro de Calabaza lately.
I've seen them in Ohio, but not in MI.
Has anyone tried Madragura Obscura aged? Picked up a bottle today of it with bottle date 2011, thinking of grabbing more,if it's great.
JP bottles can be bombs, sucks when half it gushes out. but they age well.
I had one with a couple of years on it, all I remember is that it was really "tangy", as in lacto. Would bang again, though.
Yeah....I noticed it....
FWIW, Shaun Hill recently tweeted out a pic of a 2005 La Roja saying it was delicious.