Aging Prairie Bomb and Coffee/Vanilla Noir

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by JezyGray, Feb 21, 2014.

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  1. JezyGray

    JezyGray Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2013 Texas

    Hi, all.

    I've only been cellaring for a couple months. I understand that components like coffee and vanilla tend to dull with age, but I'm wondering what you all think about aging Prairie Bomb and Prairie Coffee/Vanilla Noir.

    How long does it typically take before those flavors begin to fall off?
    Will the wax top on these Prairie bottles slow or prevent that process?
    Should I just drink these guys fresh?

    Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere.
     
  2. cultclassic89

    cultclassic89 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Texas

    I personally never age my Bombs and I won't be aging Coffee or Vanilla Noir either. I don't think the coffee or any other aspect of the flavors in Bomb or Coffee Noir are overwhelming enough for the beer to want to be aged, plus I also really like coffee stouts. I think that Prairie really tries to have their beers completely balanced at bottling, like Founders, so I would personally recommend drinking them fresh.

    I am, however, aging a regular Noir because I still get a lot of tannins from the wood and I'd like to see if some time would put that oak to rest.

    Also, Coffee Noir is fantastic and I'll be giving Vanilla a shot tonight!
     
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  3. Spike-likes-beer

    Spike-likes-beer Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Oklahoma

    I would definitely agree with not aging BOMB! it is such a balanced beer already, that you might risk making it unbalanced by cellaring.
     
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  4. JezyGray

    JezyGray Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2013 Texas

    Many thanks, y'all. This makes sense, and is pretty much what I was beginning to suspect.

    And maybe "aging" isn't the right word here. I'm not looking to hold on to these bottles for years or anything. I sort of just have a hard time convincing myself to open one because they're such special beers to me. I end up hording them for very special occasions, and I'm concerned about losing the perfect balance you guys are describing.

    So, I guess I'm asking: how long is too long to hold on to a Bomb or Coffee Noir? I know that's a hard thing to quantify, but if I keep these in the closet for -- say -- 4 or 5 months, do you think I'll notice a significant difference from when they were fresh?

    (An article I wrote is being published in OK-based magazine "This Land Press" next month. Seems like a good occasion to crack open a Bomb. Better make it a pink wax bottle instead of orange!)
     
  5. swoopdog

    swoopdog Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2012 Arkansas

    I aged a few of the very first batch and the chili moved to the forefront the coffee faded and what was left wasn't that pleasurable of an experience. It's way better fresh...but who knows with the new recipe it seems like the chili isn't as pronounced so maybe it will age better. I have about 13 currently blue wax and orange and I don't plan on keeping them for longer than 6 months.
     
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  6. cultclassic89

    cultclassic89 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Texas

    I had my last pink wax Bomb! last month, so it was already a few months old and still tasted great and very close to, if not the same as when I first had it fresh. So I think that 4 to 5 months on it won't change it much at all. As far as Coffee Noir goes, it's brand new so nobody really knows what time does to it. I found nothing too intense about the beer though so I can only imagine that the flavors are just going to fall off.

    I agree that they're pretty special beers, but Bomb! is a year round release now, so you should be able to pick up new batches every few months or so, as Chase has mentioned. All the better reason to drink them fresh!
     
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  7. JezyGray

    JezyGray Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2013 Texas

    For sure. I need to get over that psychological hump ("once you open one, that's one less you have for later") and just dive in. It's like that bit of dialogue from Sideways: "'The day you open a '61 Cheval Blanc, that's the special occasion."

    I also have a bottle of The Beer That Saved Christmas hanging around, which I've never had fresh. From what I read, this one might need some time to cool off.
     
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  8. cultclassic89

    cultclassic89 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Texas

    I feel you man, I've been the same way with certain beers before, especially Bomb! I'm currently sad about seeing my last Hop Ranch go, but I'm also looking forward to a lot of other IPA's that are coming.

    I personally haven't had The Beer That Saved Christmas, but I hope that your aging on it goes well!

    And congrats about the article, if only they could reward you with free Bomb!
     
  9. JimmyTheDook

    JimmyTheDook Devotee (341) Oct 27, 2011 Texas

    After reading comments about infected waxed Prairie Bombs and Noirs I have been drinking them out of my cellar. So far I have drunk the Bomb with pink wax, Vanilla Noir with pink wax, and Noir with red wax (I am colorblind so if I have the wax colors wrong, imagine being colorblind and pick a color you would consider close to what I have listed). All were about 1-2 years old. All of the caps had rust on the top and outside but no rust inside the seal. Poured into snifter, tasted no infections in the bottles I opened. All had plenty of carbonation. Still have a waxed Coffee Noir to drink.

    Bomb - Chocolate has faded, chili spice dominates and drowns out other subtler flavors. I prefer fresh Bomb.

    Noir - Booziness has mellowed. Had fresh Noir a month ago and both are good. I think I prefer this one aged because of the booziness in the fresh.

    Vanilla Noir - Vanilla has faded but integrated well. I haven't had fresh Vanilla Noir in a while but remember liking it. I don't know that I have a preference between the two. Another different but both good.
     
  10. OrangeMen

    OrangeMen Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2014 New York

    I had a fresh Bomb yesterday and agree with the sentiment in this thread that its a nicely balanced beer when fresh.

    However, i will be aging my other bottle for a year. Just wants to see what happens between the coffee and pepper. Im expecting that pepper to get even more pronounced.
     
  11. iamthecarlos

    iamthecarlos Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2015 California

    I have a few different Bomb Variants that a friend shared this year at FWIBF. All of them were almost drain pours. He cellars properly, so it wasn't that.

    Bomb doesn't seem to age well at all. Fresh, it's one of my favorites. Aged, yuck.
     
  12. ZionsvilleBeerDork

    ZionsvilleBeerDork Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2015 Indiana

    I frickin' loved that beer and have been kicking myself ever since for not buying more at the time. I assumed it was going to be a yearly holiday release. Christmas Bomb was fine, but I preferred TBTSC.
     
  13. TBonez477

    TBonez477 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2015 Vermont
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    Be cautious with that Vanilla Noir. Many of them (not sure the actual ratio) have been found to be infected. I had two, opened one a couple months ago and sure enough, she was infected, sour, not good. I have one more sitting which I may as well open because if it's infected it's no good anyway. Just a word of caution.
     
  14. CaptainBoosh

    CaptainBoosh Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2014 Nevada

    Just opened a Prairie Bomb! aged about a year, +\- a month or so. A little disappointed, coffee and slightly bitter chili dominates, much better fresh. Was hoping it would be more complex, but no. I feel like in other beers the coffee fades, this was unusual in that everything else faded. Such a good beer fresh, will have to add to the sentiment in this thread. I guess I should've checked here first....but experimenting is fun!
     
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  15. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    Bomb is best fresh, also had one with over a year on it and it wasn't half the beer it used to be. Curious on this batch of Vanilla Noir if it will age a little better. However I won't be the one cellering it. Got 2 left, they will be gone before the new year.
     
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