Ale Mary's to open in Royal Oak, MI and you can be a founder

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  1. Ckoz

    Ckoz Aspirant (281) Feb 15, 2014 Michigan
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    I didn't see this posted here so I figured I'd throw it out there.

    Looks like it will be next door to Tom's Oyster Bar who will own the business. Sounds pretty cool but a lot of it's success will depend on pricing. It's Downtown Royal Oak so my bets are that its $$$$/$$$$$ but we'll see.

    One cool thing is that with a donation you can become a founding member with special privileges. $200 will get you 20% off for life Sun-Thursdays, free Wednesday night sample nights, first crack at new beers, shirt, glass, priority seating and VIP access to tastings before they open for new releases as well.

    They had cheaper memberships but they sold out. The only bad part is that it would be silly to get one for yourself and no one else. So your S.O or buddy will have to pony up for their own membership. $400 for me and the wife is a stretch considering how much I already spend on the cellar and drinking as it is.

    http://www.alemarysbeer.com/

    From the website:

    "If you know the Michael Jackson that didn't write Thriller, you will love our place.

    To some people beer is a drink, for us it's a lifestyle. Our home refridgerators are filled with beers like Ommegang, Chimay, Short's, Lindeman's, Blue Point, Dark Horse, Bell's, New Belgium, Kuhnhenn, Dragonmead, Founder's, Lost Abbey, Rodenbach, Russian River and some of the best beers in the world.

    Ale Mary's will be a "beer community."
     
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  2. fishmich

    fishmich Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2013 Michigan

    sounds cool. if i lived closer it is probably something i would consider.
     
  3. DeviousSpirits

    DeviousSpirits Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 Michigan

    How are their "refridgerators (sic) filled with... Russian River", when RR isn't even distro'd in Michigan?
     
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  4. Abawol01

    Abawol01 Initiate (41) Dec 17, 2013 Michigan

    Are you insinuating that everyone in Michigan doesn't trade? I quaff at your conjecture sir!
     
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  5. wezzul

    wezzul Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2009 Michigan

    Me and a couple friends have been discussing the merits of giving them $200.... given we have no idea how good their taplist will ever be, the discount doesn't work on weekends, etc, it makes no sense for me. It's very unlikely I'm going to spend over $1000 at one place on weekdays in any reasonable amount of time.

    Still excited for it to open though, and look forward to hitting the place up.
     
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  6. sarcastro

    sarcastro Aspirant (298) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    And Lost Abbey. I think they might be exaggerating a bit seeing as it would be illegal. This isnt Washington DC.
     
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  7. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    I think it might be just worded very poorly...I think they were trying to say OUR. like me and you, fridge's...not theres...
     
  8. sarcastro

    sarcastro Aspirant (298) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I see now. They are saying the owners home fridges have them. That is what I get for skimming.
     
  9. alfie

    alfie Initiate (152) Apr 16, 2013 Michigan

    I forsee the usual bar lifecycle of Royal Oak.
    3 months, unknown to all but beer lovers - 20 minutes wait to get a table
    6 months, hipster takeover - 45 min to 1 hour wait to get a table
    1 year, douchebags hear about it and now it takes well over an hour to get a table.
    year 2-3, no longer cool, the bar closes and/or changes style.
     
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  10. Plead4D

    Plead4D Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 Michigan

    No interest in the founders membership without weekend discounts. The rest of the perks, meh.
    For those of us with kids and busy post-work lives these things don't make sense. Drinking at home does.

    HOWEVER, I am excited for new options in RO.
    But RO is RO and if the price of a pint is deemed too steep I will simply walk over to Bastone or other options.
     
  11. Holiday1072

    Holiday1072 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2008 Michigan

    Just seems odd not knowing if the place will have good service or food. You will be investing in something that is unproven, the taplist may not be what you want, just seems sketchy. If this was say Hopcat or Ashleys, for the most part you know what you're getting.
     
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  12. luniz

    luniz Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2013 Michigan

    why would it be silly to buy one membership just for yourself?
     
  13. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,859) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Some people will buy in CA and bring back. I am out right now.
     
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  14. DeviousSpirits

    DeviousSpirits Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 Michigan

    And we all know how loose Royal Oak is with enforcement of laws and such.
     
  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,859) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I am just talking about for my personal consumption. Brought a 6 pack of RR beers back in October.

    The line above was interpreted by me as home fridges. You must think it is the fridge in the bar, which is different.
     
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  16. DeviousSpirits

    DeviousSpirits Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 Michigan

    The phrasing is intentionally vague, and name-dropping breweries to raise visibility is just lazy marketing.
     
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  17. SaisonRichBiere

    SaisonRichBiere Savant (969) Mar 23, 2011 Michigan

    I'm sure they'll have an amazing selection, but Royal Oak is lame.

    Can't wait to see the RO pricing on local brews that you can get within a 15-20 minute ride for cheaper.
     
  18. Brianw508

    Brianw508 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2013 Michigan

    The manager is a really knowledgable beer guy. i met him last week. seemed like a good guy, but i think they are being a little tight with cash. i considered a membership too, but how often am i going to want to go out there? plus my wife and i are in the process of selling our home and moving
     
  19. Ckoz

    Ckoz Aspirant (281) Feb 15, 2014 Michigan
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    I'll have to go back and check but the space next to Toms Oyster bar is not all that big. That could be another concern.
     
  20. mike409

    mike409 Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2012 Michigan

    I agree 100% look at clubhouse for example the tap list is big but is usualy made up with beer you can get in bottle or already have had, when they do have new stuff on its wayyyy over priced. I am excited to check it out but cant see driving to royal oak on a regular basis.
     
  21. schepelz

    schepelz Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2013 Michigan

    From what I understand, which may be completely off....they are using the "space" that was basically part of Tom's to become the new Alemary. Was there for the Royal Oak Bar Crawl in the fall (never do this, worst waste of money), and it was small...

    If the space I am thinking of is becoming the new bar, then it will be very limited seating.
     
  22. steebo777

    steebo777 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2009 Michigan

    I'm glad to have another craft beer bar by me but see zero positives in becoming a member. I'll ride my bike up and check it out once they've been open a couple weeks.
     
  23. Kerrie

    Kerrie Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2012 Michigan

    The bf and I bike to RO all the time, so this will be one more option for us, and I hope they have outdoor seating. We skipped on the memberships, though, because the cost for both of us would have been too much, especially without trying their product first. Also, we went to Tom's Oyster Bar once and it was a bit expensive... but as long as the beer is about average in terms of cost for the area, we'll at least give it a shot.
     
  24. loki993

    loki993 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2009 Michigan

    I agree about Clubhouse...they are very expensive.

    As for This place....it would be very hard to buy a 200 dollar membership not knowing how expensive its going to be to begin with. I'm sure the place will be cool, but I also fully expect to not spend a lot of time there just like Clubhouse.
     
  25. schepelz

    schepelz Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2013 Michigan

    I'm sure this is going to be great, but are there any updates on the opening of this place?? I mean...they have been accepting "Founding Memberships" for like 2.5 months now and from what I saw on their Facebook page, they are just starting the renovations...

    I dunno...starting to approve of my choice to not drop the $ on that membership..
     
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  26. Brianw508

    Brianw508 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2013 Michigan

    I've heard they're having a hard time coming up with money to open. They are using brass faucets, not stainless steel. I'm very skeptical.
     
  27. JoeStepOner

    JoeStepOner Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2013 Michigan

    Ill go when they open, though i cant imagine them having anything too special that i couldnt get cheaper elsewhere. Also could probably get the same stuff at One Eyed Betty's for the same price and skip the Royal Oak crowd.
     
  28. steebo777

    steebo777 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2009 Michigan

    But then you have to deal with the Ferndale crowd and parking (or lack thereof).
     
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  29. JoeStepOner

    JoeStepOner Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2013 Michigan

    well its either quiet hipsters in ferndale or obnoxious bros in royal oak. i dont care who im looking at just who i dont want to hear. parking does suck tho.
     
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  30. steebo777

    steebo777 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2009 Michigan

    To me they are one in the same crowd now. Hipsters and bros are everywhere now.
     
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  31. Brianw508

    Brianw508 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2013 Michigan

    The hopcat will be 10x worse in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong
     
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  32. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    Knowing they're the same owners of Terry's Terrace, I have absolutely no interest (or faith) in the place, unfortunately -- and that news makes it even more worrisome, if true.

    The problem I have with Terry's Terrace (and I'd think with Ale Mary's when it opens) is that the beer prices are flat out stupid. $3 for a 16oz Bud Light? $9 for 12oz of Brother Benjamin? On average, their beer is $1 more expensive than most places (hey, it adds up), and their food is pretty abysmal as well. I'm honestly shocked they've been open for so many years.

    Best bar in Royal Oak = Gusoline Alley.
     
  33. steebo777

    steebo777 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2009 Michigan

    Followed closely by Monk's/Bastone IMO. When their saisons are on... they're on!
     
  34. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    Ill have to give a try again..Been to Bastone twice and did not like anything I had..was weird..Monks I just thought was waaaay overpriced...good food though..
     
  35. JoeStepOner

    JoeStepOner Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2013 Michigan

    Oh god. same owners as Terrys Terrace... does that mean ill be getting unwashed glassware and funked beer?
     
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  36. sarcastro

    sarcastro Aspirant (298) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I think I will wait for it to open and form my opinions then.
     
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