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Release AleSmith Brewing Company Releases Jamaica Blue Mountain Speedway Stout

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by Todd, Feb 7, 2014.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,527) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Here's the official press release...

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    AleSmith Brewing Company and Mostra Coffee are excited to announce our collaboration for AleSmith’s next single varietal Speedway Stout. Local coffee roaster, Mostra Coffee, has carefully roasted and cold brewed Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee beans to complement our award winning Speedway Stout. Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee beans are grown in the fertile soil of some of the highest Caribbean peaks, making it one of the most prized gourmet coffees in the world. This rare coffee uses lightly roasted Arabica beans to create a subtle acidity and well-balanced chocolaty finish. Thanks to Mosta’s diligent work, these 100% Blue Mountain beans were sourced from the renowned Mavis Bank Coffee Factory in Jamaica.

    Speaking about the collaboration, Mike Arquines, Roaster for Mostra Coffee said, “This opportunity is surreal. Prior to this collaboration, AleSmith was one of my all-time favorite breweries! Speedway Stout was my first "gateway" craft beer experience. It blew my mind because I didn't know that beer could taste like this. My Mostra team and I feel like this has been a match made in craft beer and coffee heaven because it brings together two companies who pride themselves with being able to provide an un-compromised experience and product. Cheers to more amazing collaborations in the future!"

    George Allen, General Manager for AleSmith echoed Mike’s sentiments about the collaboration, “AleSmith prides itself on sourcing the highest quality coffees for our single varietal Speedway Stouts. With this in mind, we reached out to local roaster, Mostra Coffee. Mostra shares our commitment to quality and bettering the customer experience. After several cupping sessions we found the perfect match in Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee. “

    The beer goes on sale online (via Brown Paper Tickets) on Monday, March 3rd and AleSmith will host a release party at the brewery on Saturday, March 8th. Mostra is also working on a bottling of the coffee to coincide with the beer release

    About AleSmith Brewing Company
    AleSmith Brewing Company was founded in August 1995 in San Diego, California. AleSmith owner, Peter Zien purchased the brewery in 2002 and has spent the last 11 years growing an internationally recognized brand dedicated to hand forged ales and craftsmanship. In 2008, AleSmith was recognized as the Great American Beer Festival® “Small Brewing Company Of The Year”. AleSmith currently employs 28 people and is projected to brew 15,000 barrels in 2014.

    About Mostra Coffee
    Mosta Coffee is a San Diego, California based artisan micro-roasting company that sources, roasts, brews and serves premium, fair-trade specialty coffee. Mostra Coffee was established in North County (Rancho Bernardo) area of San Diego after seeing a lack of specialty coffee outside of the large corporate chains. Mostra Coffee was founded by Beverly Magtanong, Jelynn Sophia, Mike Arquines, San Magtanong, and RJ Ocubillo in 2013.

    http://www.AleSmith.com

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  2. socalbrewlvr

    socalbrewlvr Disciple (333) Sep 9, 2013 California
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    Whalesmith at it again!
     
    #2 socalbrewlvr, Feb 7, 2014
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  3. hiimrichie

    hiimrichie Aspirant (215) Jul 11, 2012 California
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    Mike is awesome, can't wait to try this one.
     
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  4. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    So they're brewing their coffee stout with...a different kind of coffee...YAWN
     
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  5. KevSal

    KevSal Savant (952) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    i was hoping for somthing different with all the buzz that was started. im sure it will be good, but i can get the regular one local with a different gourmet coffee added without the hassel. any idea on the price?
     
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  6. CalgaryFMC

    CalgaryFMC Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2013 Alberta (Canada)

    Indeed. My mind is blown.
     
  7. Xtent

    Xtent Aspirant (221) Jan 16, 2013 California
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    Crazy to see bottles already being traded and it is not March 3rd.
     
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  8. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (146) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois
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    Ah, civet shit! I was expecting more...
     
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  9. Eamonn-Cummings3

    Eamonn-Cummings3 Meyvn (1,131) Jan 23, 2014 New York
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    Oh this sounds good.
     
  10. eaterfan

    eaterfan Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2013 California
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    I'll get a few bottles. I went to the BA Speedway Stout release party and they had several different coffee variants available. It was striking to see how different they all were.
     
  11. SaltySizzle

    SaltySizzle Initiate (89) Aug 12, 2013 California
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    I agree with Eaterfan. Each coffee variant was unique. If I had to guess on cost, and using VSS as a point of reference, $18. And also bc it's not BA.
     
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  12. WTKeene

    WTKeene Defender (667) Jul 13, 2013 New Mexico
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    When I saw Blue mountains I thought Coors, which made me think Colorado. Add in Jamaica, and I expected this to be a pot stout. Wow, was I wrong. I'm sure it will be delicious though!
     
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  13. BeerMothaLova

    BeerMothaLova Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2013 California

    How are people complaining about another coffee varietal? The difference between Kopi and Vietnamese was HUGE. I cant wait to try this. Especially after hearing how good Jamaican Blue Mountain is.
     
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  14. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    Epic.

    Jamaica Blue Mountain Coffee is amazing and complex as brewed coffee on its own unlike the others. I would sort of compare it to Geisha Coffee (The Bruery's Melange 8) in terms of uniqueness/depth of flavor and rarity.

    Viet was good and Kopi was ok, but IMO, overrated as well. Expensive? Yes. Not rare at all tho earthy, nutty and that's about it. Coffee has so many more dimensions than that flavor wise.

    Can't wait!!

    Cheers!
     
    #14 whalewatchin, Feb 8, 2014
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2014
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  15. yountvillewjs

    yountvillewjs Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2013 California

    Real Jamaica Blue coffee is world class. I'm going to buy them all, as the next bad SS variant I have will be the first
     
  16. Superflyjsc

    Superflyjsc Aspirant (263) Dec 6, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I only get the regular speedway stout here in Philly. Are the variants only sold at the brewery or in limited locations?
     
  17. jb3304

    jb3304 Aspirant (290) Mar 29, 2012 Illinois
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    I believe the variants are usually only released through a limited online(BPT) sale like this one will be. Not 100% sure though.
     
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  18. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    It'll be sold online March 3rd (Time TBD) on brownpapertickets.com and the bottle pickup/release party will be Sat March 8th..
     
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  19. mmulebarn

    mmulebarn Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 Minnesota

    So f'ing want!
     
  20. Brewski

    Brewski Zealot (533) Jul 22, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Does anybody know the bottle count on this?
     
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  21. the_trystero

    the_trystero Disciple (367) Mar 19, 2013 California
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    If I were a brewer, Kopi is the last thing I would use, Viet 2nd to last, and Blue Mountain 3rd from last.

    And while I appreciate the use of a Gesha in beer, I think it's completely overkill.

    Easily my favorite collaborations with my homebrewer friends have been with great, sweet, chocolatey Central Americans except for an IPA where we used a great floral and fruity Ethiopian, a Gesha would have been good there, too. But for stouts, especially big stouts, Central Americans all the way. And I could care less about rarity, I can't fucking taste rarity.
     
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  22. hiimrichie

    hiimrichie Aspirant (215) Jul 11, 2012 California
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    Variety sucks, right?
     
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  23. mrkdwrds

    mrkdwrds Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 California

    I sure wish that brewers would stop using gimmicky coffees (Kopi Luwak, Jamaica Blue Mountain) in their beers.
     
  24. MaltMilkshake

    MaltMilkshake Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2011 California
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    Where would you rank Folgers or Sanka?
     
  25. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    Agreed! Gesha in beer to me is a little overkill. The coffee varietal itself is delicate and tends to get lost in stout style beers...Throw in barrel aging and it pretty much vanishes. In brewed coffee form...it's amazing!

    Viet and Kopi in beer tend to work (depending on roast level) a little more harmonious in beer IMO since they are usually roasted dark to charcoal burnt (sad but true) and can withstand the big, overbearing flavors in stouts ...But in all honesty...at those roast levels, you are pretty much tasting the roast level and is not a true representation of the respected coffee varietals.

    With that being said, I would like to introduce myself.

    My name is Mike Arquines and i'm the head roaster over at Mostra Coffee in San Diego. Chef & Roaster by trade...Beer and Bourbon lover, trader, sharer everyday! Started off roasting in a cast iron skillet on my electric stove, then a hot air popcorn popper. Moved on to 1lb San Franciscan roaster and shortly after, a 25lb beauty of a behemoth SF that is now the centerpiece of our HQ.

    Our roasting facility/distribution warehouse and tasting room in Carmel Mountain. I love everyone's comments and most of all, I love me some beer. If anyone's in the area, please don't hesitate to stop in for a cup or 3 (or IP trade of some sort!) of coffee....or maybe even stay longer to cup some of our newer coffee selections

    A little backround about how are our Collab with Alesmith came about:

    I Had drinks with Bill (brewer extraordinaire over at Alesmith ) and some friends one night and discussed a possible coffee collab with their speedway stout.. I threw out different options of coffee varieties, lots, etc and we both agreed that the JBM's flavor characteristics would be perfect...if, 1. Can we source some beans (2 barrels in the U.S. at the time) and 2. Can we roast it precisely to the flavor profile they were trying to achieve. Challenge accepted.

    After weeks of hunting, we finally sourced some true 100% JBM (a lot of fakes out there) from the Mavis Bank Estate, we proceeded to cup (taste) different 20+ roast levels ranging from really light to waaay past 2nd crack to ensure a thorough examination of nuances, flavor profiles and most importantly, adhere and abide by the strict standards that Alesmith is known for and has set for us.

    We settled on 4 roast levels and brought them all to Alesmith for Peter and the brewers to cup while not letting them know we already had our favorite picked out prior to the the tasting. Luckily, they all unanimously chose the one we all thought was the winner (wheew!). We then brewed the winning JBM roast for them to taste, as well as cold brewed concentrated version (full flavored, less acidic) and they decided to go with latter. Dosing, measuring amounts yadayada were finally worked out and after numerous tastes and palette balancing acts....A final ratio of Speedway to Cold Brew was found. It even gave Peter Zien and I quote, "Goosebumps"... Definitely not a bad thing.

    So, to sum it all up...Jamaica Blue wasn't selected for its scarcity or to be gimmicky, but more for the flavor profile that Peter and Bill of Alesmith were looking for. We pitched different coffee varieties, rare and most not so rare...but we all agreed that JBM fit the flavor they were looking for and ultimately, it was there decision to go with it and man are we happy they did : )

    Hope you guys enjoy as much as we enjoyed being a part of the process of it. In the mean time, do Pre-ISO's, wait in line for Younger, and countdown the days until Hunaphu Day, cause you know where i'll be...........trying to get my mules (or sherpas as I like to call em) in line for that Taps/El Cerrito Collab "REMY" release February 16th! : )

    Cheers everyone!

    - Mike
     
    #25 whalewatchin, Feb 8, 2014
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  26. the_trystero

    the_trystero Disciple (367) Mar 19, 2013 California
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    Right on, that's one awesome account of the process!
     
  27. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    Really appreciate it!!!

    Just wanted to show that our collab wasn't just "slapped" together overnight or even in a month, ya know?

    Cheers!
     
  28. AlexM

    AlexM Zealot (537) Jun 9, 2011 California
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    Thanks Mike for the insight ... super interesting to understand the painstaking process involved in this & other brews! Good luck with the release and I for one will be on BPT, March 3rd :slight_smile:
     
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  29. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    It was my pleasure : )

    Thanks for reading it!

    Cheers!
     
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  30. mrkdwrds

    mrkdwrds Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 California

    JBM is just Arabica Typica. Still gimmicky. Cup it next to some Bourbon or Heirloom varietals and it becomes even more apparent...
     
  31. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    Definitely...but it's the roasting process that really makes the difference regardless of type. Bourbon, peaberry etc...You can have the rarest bean of the utmost highest quality, but if u roast it to death...then it dont matter.

    Gimmicky? Depends who you ask...To each their own though!

    Wax topping, limited release, on purpose low bottle counts, autographed, cool art....gimmicky? Again, depends on the person. Don't matter tho, im still waiting in line for the next release with everyone else.

    Cheers!
     
  32. johnyb

    johnyb Defender (692) Aug 11, 2012 Florida
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    Best of luck here Mike. I can't wait to try this variant personally.
     
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  33. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    Appreciate it Man!

    Can't wait for you to try it!

    Cheers!
     
  34. Donco

    Donco Devotee (482) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    That's an uninformed statement...
     
  35. SaltySizzle

    SaltySizzle Initiate (89) Aug 12, 2013 California
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    Great insight on the process! I'm definitely going to buy max and FT this! Craft beer + Craft coffee? Yes, please!
     
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  36. vurt

    vurt Crusader (746) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    That is correct. But if the bottles don't sell out in the online sale, you can sometimes buy them at the AleSmith tasting room. I'm pretty sure that was the case with BA Grand Cru and BA Wee Heavy. And not long ago I was very surprised to see 4 different BA AleSmith beers on the shelves at Belmont Station here in Portland. (The aforementioned Grand Cru and Wee Heavy, and 2 BA Old Numbskull variants. No Speedway, though.)
     
  37. jb3304

    jb3304 Aspirant (290) Mar 29, 2012 Illinois
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    Thanks for the clarification. Don't think I'd ever be so lucky to see any BA AleSmith on the shelves in Chicago! As it is only certain parts of IL get AleSmith.

    Cheers!
     
  38. eaterfan

    eaterfan Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2013 California
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    Mike,

    Really looking forward to this release (as I said in previous posts). Any idea on how many bottles there will be and what the bottle limit is?
     
  39. whalewatchin

    whalewatchin Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 California
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    Sorry, I don't have bottle count/limit info at this moment...I'm pretty sure AS will give more details as soon as the release day nears...

    Cheers!!
     
  40. Sesmu

    Sesmu Aspirant (237) Feb 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    Very interesting write-up. Thanks for taking time to share all this.
     
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