Allagash Coolship Red

Discussion in 'New England' started by LostTraveler, Nov 19, 2012.

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  1. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

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    Available today 4 bottle limit.
     
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  2. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    Might have to drive up to Portland tomorrow. What was the bottle count and price?
     
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  3. mathematizer

    mathematizer Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2006 Maine

    I believe it was $15/bottle.

    Don't know if bottle count was announced.
     
  4. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (949) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    But how does it taste?
     
  5. nathanjohnson

    nathanjohnson Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2007 Vermont

    Anyone know how this compares to Mattina Rosa?
     
  6. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    blows it out of the god damn water.
     
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  7. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    last years was amazing
     
  8. sk8man121

    sk8man121 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2007 Maine

    500 bottles and they went through quite a few of them today so if you want one tomorrow would be a good look. i just drank one of mine and it was delicious.
     
  9. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (949) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Compared to Mattina, it's much tamer. Just in general I thought Red was light in all aspects which is why I was wondering if this batch of bottles had something more to it.
     
  10. AndyAvalanche

    AndyAvalanche Savant (984) Jun 16, 2008 Massachusetts

    Wish I knew this earlier today!
     
  11. jraras

    jraras Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2011 Massachusetts

    Anyone going up/back from Boston today? I can't get up there but live in town and have lots of HF from two days ago to trade.
     
  12. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Aspirant (229) Nov 2, 2007 Vermont
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    Thanks, Tim. Juicy is on her way for Zwanze Day!
     
  13. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    Less than 150 as of opening.
     
  14. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    I made the trip up this morning. The number LostTraveler said is pretty much all they had left when I got there which was right after they opened. It was indeed 500 bottles, and I highly doubt any will last until tomorrow. Glad I went.
     
  15. sandman3479

    sandman3479 Devotee (409) Dec 8, 2006 Connecticut
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    If anyone has any extra(s), let me know, Would be interested in trading for some.

    Thanks.
     
  16. ScottLetourneau

    ScottLetourneau Initiate (141) Mar 2, 2012 Louisiana
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    Anyone know if they still had any left at the end of the day?
     
  17. SupremePie

    SupremePie Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2012 Vermont

    I'm with sandman. Anyone wiht extras tryignt o get their hands on some HF should shoot me a PM
     
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  18. ScottLetourneau

    ScottLetourneau Initiate (141) Mar 2, 2012 Louisiana
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    I stopped by the retail shop today just before lunch, and they had 23 bottles left. I'd definately get there soon if you were hoping to get some.

    Speaking with the retail clerk, he mentioned that they just bottled some more coolships. He said that they should be available early in 2013, and were most likely Cerise or Balaton.
     
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  19. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Gone, per Facebook.
     
  20. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Highly doubt it's Balaton, as they've made it pretty clear that was an experiment and that they only plan to do Cerise in the future of cherry coolships.
     
  21. mathematizer

    mathematizer Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2006 Maine

    I was told this as well. Balaton was a one off. Future cerise might include balaton cherries.
     
  22. MVP09

    MVP09 Devotee (417) Oct 19, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Is the only place to get this the allagash retail shop?
    Or can it be found in a local portland bottle shop?
     
  23. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    Brewery only.
     
  24. BOBPINCH666

    BOBPINCH666 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2011 New York

    Yep, *sigh*… Balaton > Cerise × 1,000,000
     
  25. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Yeah, Balaton's my biggest ISO. Haven't had Cerise either, unfortunately, but if Red & Resurgam are any indication....
     
  26. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    I hope the next Coolship release is Cerise. I also hope they release an entirely new one as well this year :)
     
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  27. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    last two releases AFAIK were Resurgam this summer and Red, so I assume Cerise is next... I think I heard 2013 will be the next one though?
     
  28. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    When I was there last Tues they were just brewing the base for a new one they said....
     
  29. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    A new batch of a current Coolship or a whole new one? Either way I'm pumped.
     
  30. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    All they said was it was the base.... same base for all until they add the fruit
     
  31. BOBPINCH666

    BOBPINCH666 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2011 New York

    AKA Resurgam(?)
     
  32. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Well, Resurgam's a gueuze-style (I'll refrain from calling it a gueuze to please those of you who don't like using that name for a non-Belgian). It's a blend of 1, 2, and 3 year old spontaneous beer. Edit: Don't know that this is true. Thought the website said this. It doesn't - it just says "older and younger" spontaneous beers.

    I'm assuming the base recipe for what gets poured into the coolship itself is exactly the same for red, cerise, resurgam, and balaton (or will be after it's tweaked to perfection). That's the "spontaneous beer", equivalent to an unblended lambic - it gets exposed to wild yeast, then aged in barrels. Then it's either put on fruit to referment (Red, Cerise, Balaton) or blended to taste and to referment (Resurgam).

    Again, this is totally assumption - but based on everything else they've done, I'm not sure why they'd vary at all from the traditional methods.
     
  33. BOBPINCH666

    BOBPINCH666 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2011 New York

    I'm familiar with the process, &c. thanks. But, you're right that the fruited variants aren't blended like Resurgam—2-yr à la Lou Pepe, IIRC?—that's my bad.
    Totally "meh" IMO. Real shame they retired 100%-Balaton…
     
  34. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Gotcha - all I was pointing out is that the process that makes it "Resurgam" specifically is the blending.. otherwise it's just "spontaneous beer". Fruited lambics in general, as far as I know, don't tend to be blended across age years (only across barrels). Please correct me here if I'm wrong! I was under the impression similar to you that Allagash uses somewhere between 1-2 year old spontaneous beer for the fruited variants.

    Sad to hear that about the Cerise, but matches up with what I've heard elsewhere. Still mega-mega ISO a bottle of Balaton if anyone has a spare...
     
  35. ElGallo

    ElGallo Crusader (789) Sep 26, 2009 New Hampshire

    Shared a Balaton with a friend last week and loved it. Total bummer it was a one-off. Haven't had Cerise yet, but there's a Resurgum in my cellar that has been mocking me.
     
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