Alpine Beer to quintuple production

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by claspada, Feb 12, 2013.

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  1. skunkpuddle

    skunkpuddle Aspirant (259) Feb 14, 2011 California
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    I'm pretty sure if I can get Nelson without having to drive to alpine for my 4 bottles every week (if available of course) I may drink little else.
  2. sirtomtom

    sirtomtom Initiate (197) Dec 10, 2010 California

    Wonder if it's 50/50 they are contracting with(if 50/50 has extra capacity). They pull water off the Truckee which feeds off Lake Tahoe which is pretty damn pure.
  3. gregmoscetti

    gregmoscetti Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2009 California

    lets get some Los Angeles distro first... hell we're 2 hours away and I haven't seen a bottle of nelson in about 6 months.
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  4. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    The water source they will be using will not come from CA, the west coast or Colorado.
  5. Trilogy31

    Trilogy31 Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2011 California

    Pretty sure logsdon is Lime
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  6. Chaz

    Chaz Poo-Bah (1,724) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Will it be sourced east of the Mississippi? If so, it must be Memphis!
  7. jp7161

    jp7161 Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 California
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    I could be wrong. Whole Food in Laguna told me Artisan.
  8. Trilogy31

    Trilogy31 Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2011 California

    Norcal and socal distribute differently, also with sf compared to the bay area different distributors carry the same beer depending on where the business is located
  9. luwak

    luwak Aspirant (269) Mar 2, 2010 Arizona
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    This website should come witha disclaimer....I need to get more pants for emergency changes........just cleaned up after reading about FW sour program.

    All i can say is: MORE APLINE? HUZZZAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
  10. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    Whomever has the ability to bottle with this is probably getting the contract....just sayin'...
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  11. CelticAleMan

    CelticAleMan Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    In Socal, Logsdon is distributed by Artisan Ales. They are talking about Artisan Distributing in the SF Bay area.
  12. APreacher

    APreacher Initiate (121) Jun 6, 2012 California
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    The Artisan website has Alpine on their homepage... You are right. At least here in S0-CAL.
  13. PeterJ

    PeterJ Initiate (69) Dec 5, 2012 California

    I'm talking about Amy. She's Heathers partner. Amy was in charge of marketing for 50/50. Heather was with Artisan up north (known as Celebrated Ales in SoCal). I don't know why I spelled it "artesian." Typo I guess.

    Anyway, some stores got pissed off because they were promised a certain allocation by Artesan/Celebrated and obviously they couldn't deliver because they don't distribute 50/50 anymore. That's probably why City didn't order Eclipse.
  14. MaltMilkshake

    MaltMilkshake Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2011 California
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    they do distribute. you just have to go to their front counter.
  15. ahawkman

    ahawkman Initiate (135) May 15, 2007 California

    I wonder whether Alpine ever raised any money for their "in-town" expansion plans about a year ago. They put out a prospectus and had people sign up, etc. Don't know if it ever progressed beyond that.
  16. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Initiate (82) Feb 17, 2010 New Jersey
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    I wonder this as well. I asked them what they were looking for, they told me investors that could offer six figures. I wonder how many of those they found.
  17. PeterJ

    PeterJ Initiate (69) Dec 5, 2012 California

    I'd invest in a heartbeat
  18. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Yes and no.
  19. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Poo-Bah (3,199) Jun 9, 2006 Colorado
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    Oskar Blues' Asheville, North Carolina brewery...
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  20. woosterbill

    woosterbill Poo-Bah (2,616) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    Here's hoping it's Two Roads; they have tons of extra capacity and the brewing know-how to maintain quality. Not sure about their water source, though...
  21. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    A lot more to making money in the beer business than just having good beer.....

    Risky investment.
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  22. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,229) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Just tell us where!
  23. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Highly doubtful. Doesn't make sense to contract w/ a brewery that small, that is prolly at 100% output, with more expensive real estate.

    Not sure about them pulling water from the Truckee River. Its not like the brewery is on the river (1/2 mile away?), and riparian rights for the Truckee were generally established long before FiftyFifty came around, they rarely transfer, they're the focus of tons of litigation etc. . .

    Maybe they do, but I'd bet no. Ask BA Tashbrew if you want to know for sure.
  24. PeterJ

    PeterJ Initiate (69) Dec 5, 2012 California

    Of course. It would depend on how much control they gave their investors. I guess I should have said "I would invest in a heartbeat if they would let me tell them how to sell their beer" lol.
  25. jwjon1

    jwjon1 Disciple (324) Jan 14, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    ArrogantB nailed it? Asheville? I've heard this rumor before....

    They do have tasty water.
  26. badbeer

    badbeer Initiate (0) Jun 19, 2005 Iowa
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    Cold Spring Brewing?
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  27. Chaz

    Chaz Poo-Bah (1,724) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Well, they are a Craft brewery (and offer a full range of packaging) and also possess some capacity, but I'd hedge my bet on a co-packing agreement at Asheville.
  28. Trilogy31

    Trilogy31 Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2011 California

    Has no one mentioned sierra nevada yet? The ability to can, easy distro to sac and the bay and unless Pat was bluffing tonight at citybeer there is someone beside oskar blues expanding capacity in asheville. Not to mention the water doesn't get much better than whats coming from the sierras.
  29. jwjon1

    jwjon1 Disciple (324) Jan 14, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well, Sierra and New Belgium have both also invested in facilities near Asheville... it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that with Alpine's connections to New Belgium (and two solid collaborations), this is the right contract fit. Also not a stretch--if the Alpine Alumi-Tec package is for real--to envision New Belgium going this packing route, what with their firm commitment to environmental sustainability.

    Speculation is fun!
  30. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    Omg, so does this actually mean I have a chance to try some of these amazing IPAs?!!! Color me excite!
  31. Cazlo

    Cazlo Initiate (169) Sep 7, 2011 Pennsylvania

    My sources originally told me around the Minneapolis area, but Asheville would make sense too. In any case, 16oz cans of Duet, Nelson and Hoppy Birthday are gonna be awesome, no matter where they come from!
  32. klaybie

    klaybie Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2009 Illinois

    Lets get some Central IL distro! Woooo!! No but seriously..
  33. grandmeaulnes

    grandmeaulnes Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2010 Ohio
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    Nervous about this. :confused:
  34. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,316) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    All of this talk of water. Water can be treated to get the profile you want. There are a lot of breweries in SD, which has pretty crappy water, but it can make some good IPAs.

    If this expansion happens in say Ashville, the brewery will need a lot of shipping pallets of gypsum to make those beers.
  35. sdpaul

    sdpaul Aspirant (224) May 2, 2012 California
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    They need to bottle Bad Boy and Hoppy Birthday..I hope this move doesn't mess up the QC.I know Alpine has had issues with some flat beers..maybe this move either improves it or makes it worse
  36. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    That would be amazing, we'd get distro then!
  37. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,305) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    A beer being contract-brewed in a state does not insure that it will be distributed in that state.
  38. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    Brewing a beer and bottling it in the 16oz cans only to ship it all the way back across the country doesn't make a whole lot of sense...

    The existing brewery can't keep up with demand in their home market, so I don't see them supplying the Bay Area.
  39. grandmeaulnes

    grandmeaulnes Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2010 Ohio
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  40. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California
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    21A does it. They must get some seriously huge tax breaks to offset the shipping cost.
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