American made English Style Pales most like London Pride

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  1. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,346) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    I have not had the Bass Ale brewed in the US. The last time I had a Bass ale in the bottle was a long time ago. I have had some in London on cask years back, and was dissappointed.
  2. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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    The only good American made English Pale Ive had was from Bull City Burger and Brewery in Durham, NC. They put it on the beer engine, and god damn I was intent on blowing the keg myself (but my wallet wasnt). They also make a Bitter, but it wasnt as good.
  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,694) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    The OP would do well to take in this comment. Moderately accomplished homebrewers can pull off something close to London Pride, although most homebrewers do not do cask ale, which may be a limiting factor in matching it perfectly.
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,446) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is indeed true that very few homebrewers do cask versions of their homebrewed beer. The ‘good news’ is that a bottled homebrewed English Ale is considered a Real Ale (by CAMRA) since it undergoes a secondary fermentation in the serving vessel (the bottle). What I do when I homebrew my Biter Ales is that I utilize less priming sugar so that the resulting beer has low carbonation and in this manner it ‘mimics’ a cask ale.


  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,694) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Jack, I haven't had enough beers on cask to relate to CAMRA's passion for it, and while I know bottled beer is considered real ale by devotees, I have the impression that they mostly concur on a preference for cask ales over bottled ale, real or otherwise. Peter
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,446) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have had a lot of casks ales: lots of cask ales in Britain and a huge amount of cask ales in the US. I do agree that cask is ‘better’ but a homebrewer can do a reasonable job ‘mimicking’ cask via lower carbonation; I do it all the time.

    You might be interested in reading what CAMRA publishes concerning bottle conditioned beers:

    “Real Ale in a Bottle

    CAMRA, the Campaign for Real Ale, supports real ale in a bottle. This is the next best thing, and the bottled equivalent, to the draught real ales you can enjoy at the pub.

    CAMRA has launched a logo “CAMRA says this is real ale” to clearly identify products that are the real thing: natural, living, bottle-conditioned beers. It is important to note that some cask-conditioned real ales do not undergo secondary fermentation once bottled. We hope that this logo will be able to clearly identify real ale in a bottle.

    Increasingly you will see this logo appear on bottle labels of bottle-conditioned products. When you see this logo you can be sure that you are drinking real ale in a bottle.

    Real ale in a bottle is unpasteurised and is not artificially carbonated. It is a natural live product which contains yeast for a slow secondary fermentation in the bottle. This process provides wonderful fresh flavours and a pleasant, natural effervescence.

    How to Identify a Real Ale in a Bottle

    The technical term for real ale in a bottle is bottle-conditioned and this is what appears on most bottled real ales. You can also check the label on bottle beers for the “CAMRA says this is real ale” logo which forms part of its Real Ale in a Bottle Scheme.

    If you are in any doubt about whether a beer is a real ale in a bottle, just hold it up to the light and see if it contains any sediment – the life-giving yeast that makes all the difference. You can also refer to CAMRA’s Good Bottled Beer Guide available to buy in our online shop.

    10 Reasons to buy real ale in a bottle
    1.It's a living product, which means lots of stimulating, fresh flavours.
    2.It's the nearest thing to a pint of real ale down at your local.
    3.It's not artificially carbonated; the pleasant effervescence is generated wholly by the yeast in the bottle.
    4.Almost all bottled real ales are made from just four natural ingredients: malted barley, hops, water and yeast – there are no additives or E numbers.
    5.It's mostly brewed by small or regional breweries and sold locally, so you'll be helping your local economy.
    6.It's a hand-crafted product and brewers take extra care when producing real ale in a bottle.
    7.There is so much variety to be enjoyed – well over 500 real ales in a bottle are now produced in the UK.
    8.There are some magnificent bottled real ales from other countries, which go to prove that life outside Britain isn’t all bland, international lagers.
    9.It makes an excellent accompaniment to food and with so many different bottled real ales available, it's fascinating to try to match their flavours with various dishes. Try real ale in a bottle instead of wine for a change.

    And most importantly...
    10.It tastes great!
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