Amount of Hads in ONE day...

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  1. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    I was intrigued by someone on here when I saw they have 'had' over 7,000 beers. When I looked him/her up they had been a member for many years, but 400, yes 400 of those beers were written of as 'hads' in the past THREE days (3/3-3/5) and today isn't even over. I'm baffled...

    Are people just trying to be cool?
    Are you making up for lost time yet still remember every beer you've tasted to be able to rate it?
    Any help as to why this would be acceptable?
  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Poo-Bah (9,994) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Maybe just transferring from another source or notes.
  3. bccocx

    bccocx Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2007 Texas

    I've done this before (not to the tune or 400). It was just simply going through and marking which beers I had before from untappd. I didn't review those beers, though.

    To each his own. It's just the internet, and BA is just another site (albeit a great one :wink:) . Don't get bent out of shape about what someone else does.
  4. jmgrub

    jmgrub Aspirant (211) Nov 20, 2010 California

    I have always tried lots of stuff, but only recently took to the habit of writing down everything I'm drinking. I've given thought to going back and try to remember all the beers I've had (I assume the best way would be to go brewery by brewery), but it would be a gargantuan task regardless of method so I decided against it-I also didn't want to prejudice current ratings with my memories of a taste three years ago. It would be nice if there was a way to "hads" something without giving it a score.
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  5. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    ^ Probably. I believe most people on here are honest, maybe I'm more impressed by the time it took to do that, well three days is the answer. I guess I would just get to bored to actually go through with it. I'm guilty of post reviewing, but never more than a handful at a time.
  6. StonedTrippin

    StonedTrippin Poo-Bah (23,827) May 28, 2011 Colorado

    even when I go to a tasting and get 30ish new beers in me, I usually remember less than half of them in a nuanced enough way to warrant a fair review. "its brown, its smooth, its malty, its good" is not a contribution to the evaluation of a beer, its a waste of time and megabytes.
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  7. Gonzoillini

    Gonzoillini Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2008 Illinois

    I've got about 2200 reviews I've logged on an excel spreadsheet dating back to 2008.

    One of these days I'll upload them all to BA, and it will probably be done in huge dumps of hads.

    I would figure this person you are referring to is in a similar position.

  8. ericj551

    ericj551 Meyvn (1,058) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)

    I got into Untappd a while back and have been transfering my beers from it into hads.
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  9. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    Yeah, I shouldnt care what other people do. I'm not heated by any means, just shocked is all. completely understandable if taken from notes or another site, but what a tedious task.
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  10. TheBigEast

    TheBigEast Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2004 New York

    I've had over 15,000 beers in the 20+ years I've been involved in this hobby. At first, I collected bottles and took pictures of the beers I drank. However, over time that desire faded and I don't keep track for the most part except in my mind. My wife is either impressed how I remember so many of the beers I have had or thinks I'm nuts - not sure which :slight_smile: I know many people use untapped or this site to keep track of the beers they have had. And who knows, if such sites or apps had been available back in the 90's, I may have done the same. Probably would be fun to go back in time and see my beer history. To each their own though. It's just great to live in such a golden age of beer with so many choices. Cheers!
  11. Willbfun

    Willbfun Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2012 New York

    I started doing the opposite and tallied up the different beers I've had in 2012 and counting.
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  12. 57md

    57md Poo-Bah (3,437) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Recently, I started going through some of my favorite brewers and marking beers that I've had and ranked/notated in some form or another in the past. I don't have extensive notes on these, so I cannot write reviews, but I have enough info to approximate a score. I also try to sample a few "hads" every month and write full reviews. My hope is to one day completely convert all my "hads" into reviews - will I get there? Who knows? Who cares?
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  13. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    This sums up a lot of my point. I joined this site a decade after I drank craft beer. I also thought, maybe I should rate my past beers, but as soon as I went to try, I realized there was no rational way to do so. By brewery is easiest, but quite biased. The next few days I thought about this and what beers got me into craft. #9, Indian brown ale, Brooklyn brown, Ruination, Ten fidy, a few others. At that point in my life they would all be rated the same, but I bought a mix a six of the first beers that got me into craft and there was a vast range of eh/ok to great. So, like untapped, I only rate a beer on here at that exact moment, or the next day after if I took extensive notes (and could reflect upon the next day). I extend my gratitude to those who can accomplish the feat of remembrance of an old beer palate (as I can do so with music) and am no way bashing those who do differently than I, to each there own, and the more variety of beer, the way we drink it, and the way we taste it, the better.
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  14. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    I try the same. Some of the hads I do, I try and revisit with a full review. This actually might be the best way for a good review as you already have an idea, but get to focus on the complexity the brew to a better understanding.
  15. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    It doesn't bother me personally. What I dislike is when people give obnoxiously low ratings for beers from small/new breweries, thus drastically lowering the score. To me, that is totally lame. If you hate a beer and are going against the grain, you should note why, IMO.
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  16. jtdolla911

    jtdolla911 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 Massachusetts

    I don't do full reviews on here for now, and usually do all of my "hads" in big clumps. I write them down in a notepad, come on and do like 25 at a time.
  17. ericj551

    ericj551 Meyvn (1,058) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)

    This is why I don't like hads being weighted the same as reviews. I don't mind that they are in there, but I think there is less effort put in to a had, and the weighting should reflect that.
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  18. jtdolla911

    jtdolla911 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 Massachusetts

    I can't stand when someone shits on a beer because they don't like the style.
  19. Blanco

    Blanco Zealot (597) Oct 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    put me in the "transferrring reviews from untapped." I stopped doing formal reviews a while back and really like the hads feature here, but until BA rolls out mobile capabilities I will continue to check off beers in untapped and enter them in batches here. The only reason I enter beers here is to contribute my opinion on a beers rating vs. tracking my own beers, which is what I use untapped for. If BA comes up with a good app/mobile page, I will probably move towards using BA for both purposes.
  20. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I agree with you 100%. It's too easy to scam the system.
  21. Fenski

    Fenski Devotee (433) Apr 24, 2008 Ohio

    I have 2 notebooks full of reviews but am too lazy to transfer them over. I don't base anything on reviews because there are too many inexperienced reviewers reviewing. Tastes mature over time. I wouldn't even go by my own early reviews because there are so many other beers out there now. You need others to compare.
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  22. Tballz420

    Tballz420 Meyvn (1,114) Mar 4, 2003 Minnesota

    Its news to me that "hads" are weighted in the beer rankings.

    That's pretty disappointing.

    In my opinion, a review site, especially one that is given as much weight as this one, should be focused on discerning reviews, not some half-cocked recollection from a beer fest where some dude tried out 40 different beers
  23. BierMeJohn

    BierMeJohn Initiate (127) Feb 9, 2013 Maryland

    I just joined BA not all that long ago and the other night I started listing a bunch of my hads and gots. I just did the quick rating, not the full review, and feel like I've had those particular beers enough to be able to rate them 1 though 5.
  24. TMoney2591

    TMoney2591 Poo-Bah (9,541) Apr 21, 2009 Illinois

    If you hate a beer, like a beer, or are ambivalent toward a beer, for whatever reason, you should note why...
  25. aasher

    aasher Poo-Bah (3,608) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana

    Especially if you don't like it. Let's bring some of these ratings down!
  26. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    How many times have you read a "review" that starts with "Notes from a 2 oz pour I had 5 months ago." That review is essentially worthless. Or the shitty review of an IPA that was 11 months old when they drank it? Just like any comments section you need to actually read them and draw your own conclusions.
  27. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    I have entered at least 50 reviews in a single day before, so it's not hard to imagine hundreds of hads per day when they are super quick compared to reviews.
  28. williamjbauer

    williamjbauer Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2012 Colorado

    i take paper notes at breweries or at tasting club meetings and convert later. Not an uncommon occurrence, just had a lot of volume to deal with i guess
  29. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (181) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    I think all of my hads were put in on the same day ( or most of them) One day I was just going through and marking off beers I'd remembered having. I didn't want to mess with the ratings so I'd just pick whatever number was closest to the ba rating unless it was ridiculously good or bad...
  30. mudbug

    mudbug Defender (622) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon

    I do find it rather interesting that someone would go to all the trouble of listing and rating all the beers they try on their own database, which I'm assuming they can access at any time, then transfer all that work to this website. What does that accomplish?
    Will it have any effect on a beers overall score? Very unlikely
    Will it be of interest to other BA's? Overall what Iv'e read is that for the majority of users hads are simply ignored, hidden when there is a toggle or discounted. So no.
    So why do it at all? I can see if a user ticks them off as they try them and utilizes this site as their sole database but the people that dump large amount of stuff from an existing database to here has me curious. I'm not bashing anyone for doing that because frankly, I don't much care, but I would be interested in an explanation.
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  31. ESeab

    ESeab Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    Thanks for translating my point more elegantly. I wish I wrote more reviews, but I don't. I use hads as a tool to log what I've drank, using this site as a database since I never made my own. I'm not bashing anyone that does it, but to me I think it's a waste of time. If I'm out, I still log onto the site on my phone. I don't need an app to do so, just service and tap the button that automatically pulls this page up on my mobile browser, then rate it, and don't look back (until I drink the beer again and see if I'd rate it differently :grinning: )
  32. SaCkErZ9

    SaCkErZ9 Poo-Bah (2,623) Feb 27, 2005 South Carolina
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    I once had a case of Icehouse in one day...
  33. meanmutt

    meanmutt Meyvn (1,433) Feb 6, 2012 Ohio
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    This was the case with my "Hads" when I first signed up to the site. I had been lurking on BA for a while and keeping notes on beers. Once I actually signed up I entered around 100 hads in a few days time.
  34. Smitty1988

    Smitty1988 Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2012 Arizona

    I am mostly on BA to read reviews, find bars, or see the forums... not really to mark the amount of beer Iver tried, but if I decided to do that one day, Im sure it would look strange as I marked everything that Ive ever tasted... he/or she was probably just catching up.
  35. JuliusCaesar

    JuliusCaesar Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2013 New Hampshire

    I assume that a lot of us joined this site and are active on it because we want to share our opinions about beer and take part in the dialog that goes on here. People might ignore your "hads" and it might not have much of an effect on the score but at least you've given your opinion, which is what this site is all about. So, I think that, and the fact that you get to keep track for your self, is why most people will take the time to transfer all or some of their "hads". If it's coming from notes then who cares. It doesn't have a negative effect, it simply adds to the dialog.
  36. MC6

    MC6 Initiate (106) Dec 12, 2008 Illinois

    You sound a little heated.
  37. barleywinefiend

    barleywinefiend Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Washington

    Die HADS, die!
  38. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    While I enjoy trying new beers, my pure enjoyment lies in drinking exceptional beers by the truckload, and often.

    I don't keep track, but I've ticked an awful lot. If I were at a nice beer bar and something awesome was on tap, I would order that all night long rather than tick something new.

    I don't consider a 3oz pour a had either. As men, it is our duty to drink a whole pint or serving size to appropriately give feedback. We aren't wine snobs here... yet... hopefully never...
  39. mudbug

    mudbug Defender (622) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon

    I see your point about keeping track for your own use, but I think you are exaggerating in the extreme if you think hads add to the dialog, IMO they do the opposite, diluting the conversation with meaningless scores.
    (Plus they ruined the recent beer tasting page which used to be an enjoyable read)
  40. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Poo-Bah (1,884) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    2 words: epic bender.
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