Another case for why "Northeast-style IPA" (or whatever you want to call it) should be a style

Why aren't you arguing for a blueberry muffin wild ale category instead?

 

I'd welcome adding this as an official style so its easy to avoid these malt beverages that are labeled as beer but taste nothing remotely like it.

 

FFS. Stop. It's just obnoxious at this point.

 

I don't think what basically amounts to a different hop profile and a turbid appearance amounts to a "dramatically different" beer. ABV, IBU, etc. are typically within the style range. Same discussion used to be had about East/West Coast IPA's prior to this new breed. Didn't need it then, don't need it now.

 

So because there wasn't a clear guideline you couldn't enjoy the beers? Sounds like a personal issue.

 

@Damian, do you have a draft write-up of the style description for the so-called "Northeast" style IPA? I would be willing to consider it. Maybe with this information in hand this thread might have a more 'focused' discussion?

Cheers!

 

Not till you kiss the ring, man .

 

People get so butthurt on this site if anyone mentions "NE style ipas"
People saying it not beer? What? It's not like treehouse or trillium uses Artifical flavoring or somthing. Those are flavors of hops. A flavor we should be embracing.
People just don't wanna like these IPAs because they are popular. We get it your so edgy and cool you don't like things everyone else likes ...wow.

 

So the style could then be written off as "old hat"? Perhaps the brewers who make West Coast IPAs are stuck in the past? An IPA which time has passed?

 

Strong citrus aroma. Flavor dominated by citrus / fruits flavor from the hops (typically achieved with dry hopping). Unfiltered for a hazy appearance. Medium to high IBU with low perceived bitterness, especially in the finish.

 

Oh good, we needed two separate threads at the top of beer talk on this.

 

There's a lot of varation in stouts, but we don't make new categories for them all. I think it should be the same for IPAs. I like New England IPAs but I don't think they are that revolutionary that they need a new category.

 

You could of posted this in the thread talking about this exact subject. With that said, regional variations are bound to pop up and none of this should come as a surprise to anyone. I just had a can of Julius yesterday and while yes it is definitely different then what is normally considered an IPA, it's still an IPA at the end of the day. If the regional name where it came from is irking people so much then I really don't understand those people.

Julius fucking rocked by the way.

 

Guess I disagree, I don't think the New England style tastes THAT far apart from the average US IPA. Whereas a sweet stout & a RIS are worlds apart.

Just a newb's opinion!

 

Where do the "no coast" IPA's fall in these new categories? Should all of our offerings be known as FOIPAs? (Fly Over India Pale Ale)

 

People who entirely dismiss the NE IPA "style" as non-beer-like juice and inferior to West Coast style IPAs are really annoying.

However, the people who think NE "style" IPAs are the end-all-be-all of beer are also super annoying.

I guess I should maybe stay away from these threads.

 

Both North East and West Coast are brewing to a style we know as IPA and DIPA. They both use water, malt, hops and yeast last I checked. Stylistic differences within that category don't warrant a whole new classification. If the majority prefer the way a particular region does it over another, well, you'll have to get over that.

 

I hear ya man. I'm trading my North East stuff for Bodhi. I love it all.

 

Why aren't you all arguing about Black Country bitters, Yorkshire bitters, Southern bitters, Welsh bitters, Manchester pales....surely they should all be in separate categories?

I'm not going to rest until we have at least 1000 beer styles.

 

They're different. I'm sorry, but they just are. I couldn't give a rat's ass if there's an official categorical distinction for the one from the other. And, as God is my witness, I will never reply to one of these threads again.

 

You North east folks wouldn't meet with such resistance if you would stop harping about the term/"style" so much and if you'd stop shamelessly, self-congratulating yourselves on how its the best all the time.

And also if you'd all stop being such insufferable, loud-mouthed, d-bags in the first place

 

I'm going to from now on. It's become the "cool thing" to dislike these kinds of beers.

 

That hazy shit is good though, really good.

 

Since Tree House as 50 different IPAs that basically all taste the same, maybe we should go ahead and make THIPA a style too.

 

Ipa's are supposed to be bitter. Come on, guys.

 

... so is your point that these are not IPAs but... a different style?

 

I like Heady Topper
I like Pliney The Elder
I like SN Celebration
I like Julius
I like Sculipn
I like G-Bot
I like Double Sunshine
I like Jai Alai

They all are unique and all are delicious. Which are New England Style? Which are west coast? Which are east coast? I do not know and do not care. They are all delicious and all very different.

 

I'm just shedding light on these folks claiming that these newer IPAs are "superior" because they are more "fruity" and "less bitter."

Well, fruity and not bitter doesn't sound like IPA to me, really.

So yeah I suppose so.

 

Lol, the level of butthurt and pretentiousness in this thread is rediculous.

As soon as you add NE to the front of IPA packs of wild haters can smell it. Some say from many miles away, flock to the area and begin the hunt.

Its like this with music too, arguments over genres and the like. To me personally, they taste vastly different from WC IPAs. That alone constitutes some sort of distinction, what's the fuss over whether its halal/kosher/officially notarized by the great Beer Gods/whatever. Back in the day there was really just beer, and distinct classes and styles were generated to differentiated between the different beers. IF distinction aids in conversation or selection of a specific flavor profile/mouthfeel and everything else, why fight it?

 

I actually think this is a respectable opinion and debate worth discussing. After all American pale ales and IPAs split from English versions, and one could argue that the West Coast IPA could have more similarities to an English IPA than to a New England IPA.

 

With a statement like that I wouldn't think he has tried Treehouse yet either

 

The difference i see with east coast west coast ipas is that west coast seem to be lighter in color and more pungent citrus tropical like hop and east coast is more malty and orange rind like flavors instead of tropical. Should i think they should be their own style? No. It will just over complicate things. And ipa is an ipa. If someone wants to know what "type" of ipa, thry can read the package notes like 90% of brewers have either on package or beer itself.

 

PNW IPA = Lo-Fi, NE IPA = Math Rock
Different culture, different tastes, all good.