Anyone had Storm King lately?

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  1. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    I was excited when I stumbled upon it last night when looking for something else. I hadn't had it for about a year and was suprised when I cracked one open. The first thing I noticed was the blast of hops that immediately hit my nose. That was odd, I dont ever remember this IS being a hop bomb. The second thing I noticed was that it poured much like a soda, being that it was semi transparent and had that caramel color to it. I remember this stuff being black as night. Though it tasted phenomenal, I was confused as to what I was drinking. Didn't remind me of an IS at all, but rather an extremely hopped-up strong ale. It was a completely different experience than I remember. Did they change the recipe?
  2. mellowmark

    mellowmark Aspirant (263) Mar 31, 2010 Minnesota
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    I have always thought of Storm King as a hoppy beer. It is certainly one of the more bitter RIS' I have had, and this is probably attributed to the butt-load of bittering hops added to the boil.
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,543) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I had a Storm King a few weeks ago; it was very hoppy as per usual. Fresh Storm King is always very hoppy (in a bittering and flavor/aroma way).

    Maybe the last Storm King you had was old? Storm King does age well: Victory provides a best by timeframe of 4-5 years for this beer. I have aged Storm King for 1-2 years. I enjoyed the aged versions but they lose the hops with that amount of aging.

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  4. ShemRahBoo

    ShemRahBoo Defender (604) Jan 28, 2010 New Jersey
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    Depending on how fresh there is a ton of hop flavor in storm king. Delicious fresh or aged IMO. Also a steal since it is in sixers.
  5. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    Yeah, I probably never had it as fresh in the past. I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the best by date was 2020.
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,543) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Victory provides a 5 year “enjoy by” date for Storm King. A beer brewed this year (2012) will have an “enjoy by” date in 2017.

    1 year "enjoy by" date:
    Hop Wallop
    Sunrise Weissbier
    Moonglow Weizenbock
    St. Victorious
    St. Boisterous
    Baltic Thunder

    3 year "enjoy by" date:
    Golden Monkey

    5 year "enjoy by" date:
    Old Horizontal
    Storm King

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  7. Morey

    Morey Meyvn (1,042) Dec 30, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    It's always super hoppy IMO...even aged.
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  8. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Meyvn (1,083) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I have had some within the last few weeks. Yup, super hoppy for a stout, which is why I love it!
  9. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    Surprised by the color you noted, as it does pour pitch black. But yeah, as everyone mentioned, it's a very hoppy stout for sure. Leans closer to BIPA to me
  10. dickieb

    dickieb Disciple (302) Mar 26, 2006 Rhode Island

    Oh good to know the 5 year old Old Horizontal I have is still up to par, and +1 to Storm King being more hoppy then most IS's
  11. beerlover4ever

    beerlover4ever Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2009 Massachusetts

    Storm King for me is a hop stout monster. Although I am an insane hop head, I prefer an Imp Stout that is less hop forward
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  12. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Zealot (596) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio

    I find Victory to be fairly hop forward as a brewery. My favorite so far has been Smokin' Oat Stout.
  13. x37x

    x37x Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2012 Wisconsin

    Storm King gets extremely bitter with age... I still have two left in my fridge from about a year ago, and I'll probably use it in beer bread to be honest. But I'll try a sip or two first!
  14. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    That was my first thought.
  15. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    Yes, after taking another look, enjoy by date is 2017. The ones I had last year were to be enjoyed by 2012, so they were at least four years old. Probably explains why they taste so different. Either way, I love this beer! Wish I could find some more Hop Wallop.
  16. Ravenacht

    Ravenacht Aspirant (203) Aug 10, 2012 Florida
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    Had a VSK the other day, i found it to be a bit thin for an RIS but it did have a good bitterness to it( I would not call it a hop bomb by any means) . I would buy it again.
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  17. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    That will be some pretty intense bread.
  18. Griddler

    Griddler Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2012

    Victory stopped bottle conditioning their Storm King Stout around a year and a half ago...despite the fact that the bottles and cases are marked for 5 years. Therefore it's shelf life is 5 months, just like many of their other beers. However, given the high among of hops added it will probably keep for a few months past five.
  19. freyguy10

    freyguy10 Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 New York

    Havent had Storm King lately but Dark Intrigue ( Storm King aged in Bourbon Barrels ) is drinking real nice now. Just had one recently.
  20. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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  21. calcnerd

    calcnerd Zealot (577) Oct 26, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Had a storm king from the brewery the other week. It's always okay. I'm not a huge fan but they didn't have anything else great on tap.
  22. fmccormi

    fmccormi Meyvn (1,336) Oct 24, 2010 California
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    Hmm. Yakima Glory in a Storm King bottle / label?
  23. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,292) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Opinions, and results, vary when it comes to cellaring non-bottle-conditioned beers (one of the longest-brewed and most frequently cellared beers, Samichlaus, is not BC and is even pasteurized) but the lack of bottle conditioning alone would not make the "shelf life" of a 9.1% imperial stout go from 5 years to 5 months by most brewers nor for most people who enjoy cellared beers.
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  24. fmccormi

    fmccormi Meyvn (1,336) Oct 24, 2010 California
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    I remember reading Garrett Oliver saying that Brooklyn's Black Chocolate Stout is pasteurized, I believe, and in his opinion its ability to improve with age actually increased quite a bit after making the change a few years back.

    Whatever they do with it, I think it's pretty tasty.
  25. CMUbrew

    CMUbrew Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 Michigan

    Just had it last night. Definitely a hoppy beer with all the trappings of an imperial stout; viscous, oil black, roast flavors, licorice, dark fruits. Very much a stout. It sounds like you weren't drinking Storm King at all lol.
  26. Reagan1984

    Reagan1984 Poo-Bah (2,074) May 15, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Bingo. Riddle solved. Your first experience with Storm King seems to have been some aged bottles.
    I agree with the consensus here.
    Storm King is very Hoppy
    Storm King cellars very well.

    I hope this has motivated you to get some more and begin a vertical. also try one at an annual interval to note the differences. Enjoy. What's funny is that I really enjoy the beer and just haven't had one in quite a while. Perhaps this thread just sold another sixer for Victory. God bless suggestive selling... Cheers
  27. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    A vertical...... now there's an idea! Plus an excuse to buy more. The hard part will be trying to keep them though :wink:.
  28. JimsArcade

    JimsArcade Initiate (169) Jan 20, 2004 Pennsylvania

    I shared a few bottles of 8-year-old Old Horizontal with friends and everyone loved it! There was a lot of sediment, though, so there wasn't as much as we'd have liked.
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  29. JimsArcade

    JimsArcade Initiate (169) Jan 20, 2004 Pennsylvania

    Any of their Braumeister Pils and the casked Uncle Teddy's Bitter always make a trip to Victory worthwhile. The bitter is a particular favorite of mine: besides UTB, I've never tasted an American interpretation of the style that comes close to what you get in England.
  30. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Zealot (528) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Storm King is heavily alcoholic, hopped up, and hot. I find it to be best at about three or four years.
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  31. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    protip: blend storm hing and hop wallop
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  32. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Zealot (528) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania

    They do Hop Devil and Storm King at Victory.
  33. Lex_Talionis

    Lex_Talionis Initiate (157) Dec 13, 2012 California
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    Its way to hoppy for an Imperial stout.

    Its good but was more like a black ipa than a stout.
  34. Sesmu

    Sesmu Aspirant (239) Feb 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    As I understand, it's 3 years now. At least this is what I saw with the latest batch, second half of 2012. And the "enjoy by" is not on a label anymore, but etched on the neck.

    Although if anybody has a different explanation, I'd like to hear.
  35. jmgrub

    jmgrub Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2010 California

    Always been a hop bomb...and thus always been strongly disliked by moi.
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  36. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Zealot (528) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I strongly disagree with this point. Your first part, however, yeah.
    Age it three years. It's great.
  37. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,543) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The bottles I have state: "Enjoy by Sep 4 2017" etched on the neck.
  38. x37x

    x37x Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2012 Wisconsin

    I did make beer bread with an old Storm King a couple months ago, and it was delicious of course, but not even close to being as strong as the loaf I made at the same time, with an old Hopslam! :slight_smile:
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  39. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    Its definitely hoppy and pitch black. Too hot for only 9% though. Old Rasputin shits all over it.
  40. stantheposterman

    stantheposterman Initiate (54) Aug 6, 2012 California
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    That's what I was thinkin. Not quite, but getting close. If I'm in the mood for a true stout, I'll choose something different.

    That being said, I have only had the new ones. Looks like my last couple are going in the cellar.
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