Anyone hate Dark Lord but like the BA Dark Lords?

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by AlexFields, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. AlexFields

    AlexFields Meyvn (1,279) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I have only had regular Dark Lord, which I thought was disgusting and drain poured, and haven't tried any of the variations--it never occurred to me to bother tracking one down given how much I disliked the base beer. But people keep talking about how good some of the variations are (especially Brandy Vanilla) and obviously they are very highly related. Is there anyone who shares my opinion that regular Dark Lord is really bad, but has tried and liked one or more of the barrel aged variations?

    I seriously doubt I'd be talked into trying to trade for one of these no matter what answers I get here, I'm mainly just curious as to whether some barrel aging or an added ingredient can make such a radical difference in a beer that the same person could strongly dislike the untreated version and really like the treated one.
  2. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    Everyone who toes the party line has these feels.
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  3. schwartzoid

    schwartzoid Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2008 California

    Isn't this everyone?
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  4. TheSaboteur

    TheSaboteur Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2010 Nebraska

    I prefer Pappy 46.
  5. digita7693

    digita7693 Disciple (394) Jan 19, 2010 Germany
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    I think they both suck:slight_smile:
  6. UnderJoath

    UnderJoath Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois
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    I think Dark Lord is alright in moderation. The Cognac barrel aged was fantastic, however.
  7. aasher

    aasher Poo-Bah (2,572) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    On draft, excellent. Out of the bottle, too sweet IMO.
  8. AlexFields

    AlexFields Meyvn (1,279) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Are the BA versions just totally different? Are they not recognizable as the same beer? I just have a hard time imagining how anything I literally can't bring myself to finish 4 ozs of could be transformed into a fantastic beer by some time in a barrel.
  9. aerozeppl

    aerozeppl Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2006 New York

    We did a 2006-2012 vertical plus the Vanilla Bourbon. The only one I enjoyed was the barrel aged one. I just simply do not like Dark Lord. The barrel aged versions I have had have been really amazing though. The best was at Dark Lord Day in 2011 the Oak aged vs Vanilla and then blending them.
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  10. brewbetter

    brewbetter Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    Argh, some snarky comment about 1st-world problems or some other comment on how you can send me your BA Dark Lords so that I can confirm your findings.
  11. lotsaswigs

    lotsaswigs Initiate (149) Jan 24, 2006 Michigan

    I don't know (haven't tried the variations yet), but I do know I've had dark lords (standard) that I thought were overly sweet/completely nasty and I've had ones I thought were great. Sometimes it's the same vintage, fresh they've generally been not so good, but with a couple years they have mellowed into something I can enjoy. Or it could completely be my palate doing tricks on me. Interesting question though, I can't think of any barrel aged beers I've had that I disliked in it's original form but liked with barrel aging, but I do know I've had a couple that were worse after barrel aging...
  12. Chazari99

    Chazari99 Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I think regular Dark Lord is the most overrated beer I've ever had. Simply put, it was awful. I couldn't get through 1/3 of the bottle.
  13. miketd

    miketd Zealot (524) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
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    My buddy told me the Pappy variation was good, but he likes regular DL and I don't. Either way, I wouldn't trade for one in any case.
  14. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (623) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Yes, regular DL sucks, all the haters can send me any bottles they have and I will "dispose" of them...
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  15. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Indiana
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    Post like these have me lmao.
    Drain poured Dark Lord. Are you that cool! Lmao

    Epic fail!
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  16. immobilisme

    immobilisme Aspirant (231) Nov 8, 2005 Illinois

    All of the 2012 BA variants were leaps and bounds ahead of any non-BA Dark Lord I have ever had.

    From my experience, the barrels do more for Dark Lord than any other stout I have ever tried.
  17. miketd

    miketd Zealot (524) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
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    Is it inconceivable to you that someone would drain pour Dark Lord, or are you just annoyed somebody posted it online? I don't feel "cool"(and actually hate wasting beer), but I have dumped a nearly full bottle myself.
  18. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Indiana
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    I personally find it entertaining that you would "drain pour" a whale. Yes I do. Absolutely.
    Saying you didn't like it, or it didn't match you taste etc, Is more normal.
    To say you drain poured it = looking for attention and a bit dramatic IMO.

    Don't you have any friends that might have enjoyed a taste? Or you just decide to crack a DL at the house by yourself tonight??!
    Why wouldn't you save it for someone else to try?! Call a BA over?
    Do you not have any friends that enjoy great beer?!

    Lmao a bit more!
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  19. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    I love Darklord. Never tried a variation though.
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  20. AlexFields

    AlexFields Meyvn (1,279) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    It wasn't my bottle actually and we shared it among four of us. All of us thought it was awful, none of us wanted to drink more than a few sips, so we poured it out and drank something better.
  21. papat444

    papat444 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2006 Quebec (Canada)
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    Had 2 vintages of the regular and liked them though i preferred the one that had a few years age on it. Never tried the BA-versions and probably never will though they do sound delish.
  22. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Indiana
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    It's all good! Thanks for the entertainment on this Monday night!
  23. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    Everyone hates Dark Lord now. It's the cool thing to do!

    In all seriousness, the more recent vintages have been subpar (especially the 2012), but I found the 2010 to be enjoyable fresh and aging poorly, with the 2011 the exact opposite, as the bottle I had back in May was really nice. However, the only Dark Lord that even comes close to being on the same level as most of the barrel aged variants was the 2008 in its prime. The 2012 Bourbon Barrel Dark Lord might be my favorite bottled beer of all time. Then again, I like to chew my stouts, if possible.
  24. miketd

    miketd Zealot (524) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
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    I went to darklord day, bought bottles, opened one up by myself, hated it, drain poured, gave the rest away to friends. BTW, Dark Lord isn't even a "whale", or any other stupid term you want to apply to rare beer.
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  25. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (958) Mar 17, 2009 Washington
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    Whale…now you got me lolleying

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  26. AlexFields

    AlexFields Meyvn (1,279) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    Mark, that's interesting because the 2010 is the vintage I had relatively fresh and thought was disgusting. In all fairness I still haven't had 08 or the earlier vintages that people say are better.
  27. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    That's too bad. Really after 2008 none of them were overly impressive, and the last couple 2008s I had were definitely on the wrong side of 40, which was so sad to see. Just out of curiosity, how "relatively" fresh did you have the 2010? If I recall, it really starting getting weird around the one year mark.
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  28. Pecan

    Pecan Devotee (421) Dec 20, 2012 Arizona
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    Comparing the regular to the BA, the BA did a LOT for them. That being said, I loved both versions.

    I can see how someone could not adore DL, but a drain pour? That just comes across as ridiculous and dramatic in my opinion. Either way, I'll go ahead and jump on that "I can dispose of that for you...." bandwagon.
  29. AlexFields

    AlexFields Meyvn (1,279) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I don't remember exactly but definitely less than six months after the release.
  30. CityofBals

    CityofBals Initiate (0) Sep 12, 2012 Illinois

    Is this a serious thread? I can't tell for this one.
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  31. semibaked

    semibaked Zealot (566) Mar 27, 2007 Illinois

    I dislike regular DL a lot (sickening sweet imho), I've had PVW (It was ok, but it still tasted a lot like DL, with a little bourbon in it), Vanilla Bean DL (Really good), Oak Aged DL (it was decent).
  32. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Meyvn (1,248) Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    I think that's every BA you just described!
  33. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poo-Bah (1,883) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    I don't hate Dark Lord. I actually like it pretty well. (I just don't make a grab for my ankles when I'm looking to trade). Having said that, I have been wanting to try some of the BA variants. For a while I was trying to land an older Oaked. But Since people seemed to expect 4 Black Tuesdays, and a case of Pliny( or Heady) plus my 1st child in trade for 1 bottle of said DL...Maybe 1 day.:rolling_eyes:
  34. jplopez21

    jplopez21 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2012 Illinois
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    I'm gonna go back to my original comment that most BA's prefer more bitter RIS' (I don't know why). Dark Lord is sweet. Plain and simple. And it's amazingly awesome. In comparison I'll take narwhal over FIS any day.
  35. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
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    For whatever reason the barrels fill in all of the holes in a rather mediocre RIS. You get the bourbon and the oak, but then the DL sweetness, instead of tasting like soy sauce, instead changes to a chocolate fudge brownie. If you want to know what BA Dark Lord tastes like, and dont want to give up your cellar, trade for a Murda'd Out Stout. Simply incredible.
  36. Shagtastic

    Shagtastic Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2011 Indiana

    Sucks so bad thousands of people wait hours to buy it. Seriously though I'm with Mark. It amazes me how people come out of the woodwork to shit on this beer. While not my favorite beer I enjoyed it quite a bit because I knew what I was getting into. If you put it on a pedestal you'll be disappointed.
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  37. BeerMeFitz

    BeerMeFitz Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2011 Illinois

    We opened a 2012 at a recent tasting and none of us wanted a 2nd taste so I brought what was left to my local bar and the bartenders did not want a 2nd taste so we offfered it up to any patrons and they also did not want a 2nd taste..... Green apples!
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  38. BeerMeFitz

    BeerMeFitz Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2011 Illinois

    I think a vast majority go to DL Day for the bottle share in line and all day long, meeting new BAs, trading with BAs and others, the food and bands, and also the trading potential for DarkLord allows you to score other beers you have always wanted to try and last but certainly not least some people really like the taste of Darklord ...just not me this year...
  39. CityofBals

    CityofBals Initiate (0) Sep 12, 2012 Illinois

    This is from acetaldehyde right?
  40. Keffa

    Keffa Defender (634) Jan 8, 2009 Ohio
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    I've hated every regular DL that I've had.



    When that BB Vanilla was shared, I expected it to cause instant diabetic coma. It was however, IMO, FAR better than the base beer. It wasn't as sweet (for some weird reason) and the vanilla helped bring things together.
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