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Apparently L.A. Only has Two Good Breweries

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by UnknownKoger, Sep 28, 2012.

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  1. hopsputin

    hopsputin Meyvn (1,082) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey

    I've had beer from eagle rock, el Segundo, and angel city. None of which have really impressed me at all, in fact I thought angel city (the wit and ipa in particular) were quite bad. LA definitely has a way to go to get some real good breweries in the city proper. That being said, the comment comparing to San Diego ipas was quite douchy. Not being born and/or raised in SoCal I feel no real I'll will towards either city so te rivalry is a bit lost on me if that has anything to do with it
  2. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Devotee (478) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Can you guys please enlighten a transplant from Chicago on this rivalry between the two cities?
  3. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    San Diego: little brother syndrome.
  4. SHODriver

    SHODriver Poo-Bah (1,522) Aug 13, 2010 Louisiana
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    Depends if you mean LA as in the town of LA or LA as in the area to include orange county.
  5. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Plus their Clippers jerseys are fuggin fugly, especially compared with the sweet powder blue SD Clippers jersey.

    Clippers/Heat NBA Finals 2013.
  6. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Not when it comes to beer, quite the opposite.
  7. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    You just started reading this thread, right?
  8. SnowFlowMfg

    SnowFlowMfg Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 California

    I went to Ladyface in Agoura Hills yesterday. I liked it and was pretty impressed. Got a growler filled of their tripel and had a pint of pliny on tap.
  9. cquiroga

    cquiroga Initiate (169) Oct 14, 2004 California

    So we can count Pliny towards the LA beer scene now, right? Because it was available in a town that is pretty close to LA County, I think it definitely qualifies and is clearly a testament to the overall quality of the LA beer culture. We have arrived. Anyone who disagrees is just jealous of LA's longstanding, homegrown greatness.
  10. Wowcoolman

    Wowcoolman Crusader (797) Sep 25, 2010 California
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    Agoura Hills is LA County. Most of the beers on tap at Ladyface are brewed right there. I was just there drinking a few of them.
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  11. cquiroga

    cquiroga Initiate (169) Oct 14, 2004 California

    My bad. I didn't realize it was right there on the very northwestern-most border. So if we're counting Beachwood in Long Beach as "LA," I guess we also have to count Ladyface as LA.

    Which makes this whole thing even more ridiculous, because while I was being completely facetious in my prior post, I guess I was actually making an argument that some LA homers would make in all sincerity. Except for the Pliny part, of course (I hope!)....
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  12. Wowcoolman

    Wowcoolman Crusader (797) Sep 25, 2010 California
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    Maybe we could consider Sonoma County as part of LA....
  13. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    If it weren't for Camp Pendleton, LA would be claiming San Diego.
  14. PlinyTheYoungest

    PlinyTheYoungest Aspirant (210) Jun 30, 2009 California

    You realize people are talking about LA county right? Those breweries are in LA county. Beachwood, located in Long Beach, is LA county. San Diego county is huge. Breweries such as Stone in Escondido all the way to Alpine and Pizza Port OB are all considered SD breweries. What don't you understand?
  15. SShelly

    SShelly Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2008 Oregon

    That article made me laugh, and die a little inside all at the same time, as someone who was born/raised in SD and been in the LA beer scene for a while LA still has a long way to go. HOWEVER...anyone who was at bam fest yesterday, or union station last week can attest to the fact that there is damn good beer being made in LA.

    Part of our issue here in LA is that the scene is spread WAY out, and there are certain places with specific ordinances (hollywood im looking at you!) that make starting new breweries virtually impossible, while other cities in the county (torrance) are really beginning to embrace breweries and are working with new brewers now.

    Give it another year or two for all of the new comers to figure out their respective brew systems and for the guys like Julian at Beachwood (who will win a GABF pub brewer of the year award sometime in the next 5-10 years) and the Eagle rock crew to delve further into their barrel/specialty programs and I think the LA scene will start to round together pretty well.

    Oh and 2 others that havent been mentioned here, Kinetic up in lancaster (yes its in the county!) and Ohana just south of downtown are both up and running making great brew.
  16. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    I don't understand why this thread was revived after a week of blissful silence, but I realize you weren't asking me.
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  17. Jackskeleton

    Jackskeleton Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2007 California

    It's not like LB and Agoura Hills are that far apart considering how much distance lays between Alpine and Stone. LA County indeed, and both are in that range and producing great stuff.

    The article was indeed pretty comical. I mean, ouch on Golden Road for that backhanded compliment. I know it gets a lot of hate toward them, but if you look at the year round beers they crank and can out, it's a pretty good stepping stone to get your average PBR drinking Silver Lake/Los Feliz'er to get through the gateway and into beers you can enjoy the taste of.

    skyscraper brewing company was fairly enjoyable when they were in El Monte - relocating to City of Industry, last I heard.

    As for Angel City. I still don't know how a company with so much potential could really squander it so badly. Their brewery/tasting building in Downtown was amazing space. And yet it's still closed for repairs and the beer they are cranking out isn't good.
  18. SnowFlowMfg

    SnowFlowMfg Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 California

    Never said Pliny had anything to do with LA. I was mentioning that the brewery is nice place to go, good beers on tap and a nice atmosphere and menu. The upside is that they have many good brews there that are brewed on-site. No complaints from me. I'm now a regular there. So I count that as 1 good brewery in LA.

    Agoura is in LA county.
  19. DrinkNoH2O

    DrinkNoH2O Initiate (174) Oct 17, 2009 California
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    Was in LA on Saturday for the Furthur concert at the Greek and had some time to kill so we decided to stop by both Golden Road and Eagle Rock as they are in the area.

    Golden Road - nice atmosphere, plenty of room inside, average beer. Nothing really interesting in regards to their brews, honestly BJ's or Karl Strauss pretty much has them beat all the way around on beer which isn't saying much. They did have Sculpin on tap though which was nice.

    Eagle Rock - disgusting. The building itself is in a rough industrial area with barb wire, cinder blocks, and barred windows as the decor. The beer was even worse - tried a pint of their "West Coast IPA" (can't remember the actual name) and it was horrid. It was thin and had a strange hop flavor along with numerous off flavors as well (lactic? something acidic going on in there for sure). Promptly left after that.

    Not at all impressed by what I've seen so far of the LA breweries...
  20. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Stick to Bayhawk.
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  21. Skuter

    Skuter Aspirant (213) Jun 21, 2008 California
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    Another new brewery (and I know pretty far north in LA County) is Bravery Brewing (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29481) They had a pretty sizable investment to start and when I was there last they said they were starting a barrel program soon. Their current beers are pretty solid (Blackberry IPA and Coffee Stout were tasty) as well.

    R. Lee Ermey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey) is also involved with the brewery and occasionally makes visits.
  22. beerdweeb

    beerdweeb Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2010 California
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    I'm heading to the Greek tomorrow night for a show but gonna stick to some of the cool beer bars in the area. Tony Dart's Away, Mohawk Bend, and Surly Goat, probably.
  23. beerdweeb

    beerdweeb Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2010 California
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    And Beachwood is the best brewery in LA! :sunglasses:

    We just put on Hop Jitsui IPA and it's some of Julian's best work yet. It'll probably make it out to most of our LA accounts but drinking at the source is always the most fun!
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  24. DrinkNoH2O

    DrinkNoH2O Initiate (174) Oct 17, 2009 California
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    Haha, yeah, Irvine's finest. I'm actually in Aliso Viejo now so I have local gems such as Stadium Brewing Co. to look forward to.
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  25. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California
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    I'm not sure how to put this gently, so I'll just be blunt. Throwing money at rapid expansion and putting out mediocre beer is not craft. They remind me of the 90s and all those investment brewpubs/microbreweries that flooded the scene and went bust and crashed the market. The product has to come first. You can guess who I'm talking about.
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  26. alwaysanswerb

    alwaysanswerb Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2010 California

    Real talk, vacax.
  27. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2008 California

    I think you're being a little harsh on The Bruery, but I agree with your overall sentiment.
  28. Sam_Frank

    Sam_Frank Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2012 California

    I think you'd find a lot of people who disagree. I think Eagle Rock Populist IPA is a severely underrated beer.

    Their brewery is nothing fancy for sure, but since when do breweries have to be fancy? I've visited plenty of tasting rooms (in San Diego) that are less put together. I think LA has a long way to go, but I think in the not so distant future we will be a player in the beer scene. For my money, Eagle Rock kicks Golden Road's ass in the actual beer department (Golden road does have a nice pub etc..)

    To answer that one dude's question about rivalry.. there is no rivalry. People in other cities spend time hating on LA while LA doesn't really have anything against other cities.
  29. Srsly

    Srsly Initiate (174) Mar 21, 2010 California

    Agreed, on all counts. And it feels like we've got a new brewery opening up every month lately.
  30. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California
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    I'm glad there's not more beer in LA, because I'd rather not have an excuse to stop there.
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  31. Sam_Frank

    Sam_Frank Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2012 California

    Ah, I see you're from San Francisco. Thank you for helping prove my point
  32. AptosBeerDrinker

    AptosBeerDrinker Initiate (177) Aug 9, 2011 California

    Golden Road...I was down there this past weekend and I agree that their beers are relatively average but man that building is a cool place to kick back and have a beer. Food is really pretty good as well and I'm not vegan. I know the only point of this message board is to discuss/brag about finding the rarest of whales but I would go back.
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  33. MLucky

    MLucky Aspirant (286) Jul 31, 2010 California

    I'd say there are some very obvious reasons why L.A. has not been a hotbed of craft brewing activity. Real estate prices are high. The water is bad. Anyone considering starting up brewery would quickly realize that locating in L.A. county would cause them to incur a lot of costs they wouldn't have if they went to Ventura County or North San Diego. So they didn't. Now, all that is changing, because craft beer is a "thing" and there are going to be people who realize that the L.A. market isn't saturated the way other areas in the state are, and they're going to be willing to take on those costs. Some of these new guys will be good, some not so good, like everywhere else.
  34. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2008 California

    I have nothing against LA; I was born there. But now, I simply think of it as the big traffic jam between me and Alpine.
  35. dcgunman

    dcgunman Defender (661) Jul 1, 2009 California
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    Golden Road must have some connections (or $$'s) to become so big so fast. Not so big on their brews. But their brewery and tasting room is cool. They are all over the southland (ex. LAX, hosting the Bevmo beerfest, etc). I prefer Beachwood BBQ & Brewery, El Segundo and Strand over Golden any day of the week. I'm sure Gabe doesn't care if his Beachwood is not mentioned in this latest read. After all we all know the truth here. :grinning:
  36. dcgunman

    dcgunman Defender (661) Jul 1, 2009 California
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    Just have to leave and get to Alpine when they open and hang for a bit, git yur beers in order and leave before the traffic starts up again.
  37. Alincider

    Alincider Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2013

    Does anyone know of a brew supply store near Lancaster? I have been searching the web and the nearest I can find is Santa Clarita. I'm finding it hard to believe that the Antelope Valley or Acton doesn't have one. Yes I know that this is not the main line of this thread.
  38. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    What is the one in Santa Clarita called? I live there and I have never heard of any in the city.
  39. Alincider

    Alincider Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2013

    All Corked Up 26340 Diamond Pl, Santa Clarita, CA 91350, not sure what they sell as I have never been there but the site says "Beer Makers Equipment & Supplies"
  40. ggwheeler

    ggwheeler Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2011 California

    Strand kills it.

    Eagle Rock maims it. Then lets it go.

    Ohana is going to MURDER it. Find their beer. It's kick ass.

    Golden Road beer is terrible. Seriously.
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