Apparently the country's best beer is from New Jersey

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  1. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Champion (809) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

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  2. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Disciple (316) Apr 29, 2012 California

    When I lived in NJ a few years back, my wife and I stopped in there on our way down to H&H Seafood for “all you can eat” crabs.

    They had only been up and running for a short time, so they were still getting some of their beers dialed in. Their hoppy stuff needed tweaking, but their other offerings were ahead of the curve for sure. Glad to hear they’re doing well and making great stuff!
     
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  3. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Initiate (151) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    How can this be?? It's not even an IPA or barrel-aged stout.....
     
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  4. Duhast500

    Duhast500 Meyvn (1,333) Nov 14, 2007 Rhode Island

    A good sour can be very tasty. Too bad I'm not in NJ anytime soon.
     
  5. Dan_K

    Dan_K Devotee (464) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    I don't think Beer Connoisseur magazine is the top beer magazine. I've never even heard of it.

    I'm sure this beer is good, but best in the US? That's hard for anyone to really justify any single offering.
     
  6. mkh012

    mkh012 Devotee (488) May 7, 2015 New Jersey

    I've never had Topsail but judging by Beer Advocate and Untappd ratings there are dozens of better beers in NJ alone. In fact, it isn't even on BA's Top Rated Beers: New Jersey list. Obviously this is subjective but meh.
     
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  7. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,363) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    You should check it out.
     
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  8. njcraftguy

    njcraftguy Devotee (483) Apr 6, 2015 New Jersey

    Sorry but that list is absurd, nothing against Cape May - they make solid beers but best ? No - just ... no
     
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  9. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    Cape May Brewery has really been stepping up their quality, and whether this amount of hype is deserved or not, that should be celebrated. I love their beers to be honest, always remind me of summer. Will be picking up Topsail and reviewing it soon, look out for that. And if anyone wants to trade for some I can definitely get you a bottle.
     
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  10. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    post this list for discussion's sake. I really have no idea where to find that hahaha.
     
  11. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (9,749) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania

    I can live with Cape May's Topsail as the best beer, why not? They make some great sour beers! I like those better than their hoppy beers, by the way

    I do have to question Heavy Seas (Clipper City Brewing Co.) as the country's best brewery though. Where did they pull that one from? And I don't mean any disrespect to Heavy Seas in that, they make plenty of good beers that I like, but I'm sure that even they'd say there are better contenders for that title.
     
  12. mkh012

    mkh012 Devotee (488) May 7, 2015 New Jersey

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  13. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    I've had a number of the Kane and Carton products on this list and I wholeheartedly think Cape May is a better brewery. Carton and Kane makes some great beers though.
     
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  14. marquis

    marquis Crusader (740) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    There is no such thing as "the best" beer although many brewers have claimed to brew it.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,571) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Well, sour beers are part of the extreme genre of craft beer so...

    Cheers!
     
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  16. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,261) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Heavy Seas is the best brewery in the country? These lists come and go, a bunch of folks get their panties in a bunch over them, then the next list comes out rabble rabble... Most of them have some sense grounding - this one seems a bit out there IMHO. Don't know the brewer or the beer, so whatever a panel decides is what it is. Non-issue.
     
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  17. WillemHC

    WillemHC Initiate (124) Jun 21, 2013 Utah

    Using BA's top beers list to derive/qualify/disqualify a "best" is laughable. I love this community and use it all the time, but we are just about the farthest possible thing from being able to objectively rate styles, lol.
     
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  18. Lucular

    Lucular Poo-Bah (1,619) Jun 20, 2014 Maryland
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    Heavy Seas was my favorite brewery when I was getting into craft back when there were almost no other local breweries in my part of MD...but even I did a double-take when I got to that point in the article!

    However, I did not try the Stone imperial brown ale collab which they rated the #3 beer overall. So...maybe if I had had that my whole opinion of Heavy Seas would be altered?

    Edit: Just checked and I DID have that beer. Gave it a 3.96, so...solid but definitely not my favorite beer of all time.
     
  19. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    Yeah literally 6 ratings with zero reviews. Hopeful I add a review to that this weekend.
     
  20. mkh012

    mkh012 Devotee (488) May 7, 2015 New Jersey

    To each their own. I think Kane is the best brewery in NJ. What have you had from Kane?

    I would say consensus can be useful, though. The beer has a 3.98 on Untappd with 574 ratings and a 4.04 on BA with an admittedly small sample size of 6 ratings. Neither of these metrics are the be all and end all, obviously, but for me personally they cause me to take the magazine's opinion with a grain of salt. As, perhaps, most opinions should be taken...

    EDIT: Also, the beer is a Sour which is a popular "hype" style, so I don't think people are underrating it like they'd rate a Kolsch, for example.
     
  21. scream

    scream Zealot (531) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin

    The whole thought process is ridiculous. The best beer is the one that someone remembers most fondly and likely changes as time goes by.
     
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  22. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    I've had:
    HEAD HIGH
    OVERHEAD
    Sneak Box American Pale Ale
    Sunday Brunch

    And from one sour to another can have a WILD differences in taste and tartness. I think that makes it such a difficult style to grade, especially via GroupThink personally.
     
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  23. Zorro

    Zorro Poo-Bah (4,244) Dec 25, 2003 California

    $2 to read the list and Bourbon County Stout is #91.

    As far as I had to read.
     
  24. kinopio

    kinopio Aspirant (248) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    I spent some time in Cape May/Wildwood about 6 months ago and I thought the beer scene was lacking. It was like taking a time machine to 2009 beer wise. You could find some local stuff from Cape May Brewing and others but none that I had was very good. Hopefully things will be tastier this summer.
     
  25. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,571) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Did you get a chance to drink Carton beers during your visit?

    Cheers!
     
  26. Realsambo

    Realsambo Initiate (85) Apr 15, 2016 Idaho
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    Saying best beer in the U.S. is like saying that we figured out green is the best color in the U.S. Just doesn't work
     
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  27. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Aspirant (229) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I like Cape May brews and I can get them near me relatively fresh but they don't make anything mind blowing. That said everything is pretty solid and they have a huge presence in resturaunts around me so they are always a good menu option. Best beer in the United States? Not to me. I can think of at least 5 other jersey breweries I'd go to over them. Kane and Carton are still making the best well known beers in New Jersey. Still haven't had Magnify but I've been wanting to. Glasstown and Tonewood are up there but are very small production breweries that most people wouldn't know.
     
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  28. tobelerone

    tobelerone Poo-Bah (2,229) Dec 1, 2010 New York
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    Sorry but

    LOLOLOKLLKLLLOLLLL
     
  29. Mothergoose03

    Mothergoose03 Poo-Bah (2,225) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I've never had this beer to know whether I'd agree with that award, but I'm okay with Bell's Two Hearted actually holding that status of Best in America.
     
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  30. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Poo-Bah (1,632) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    A sour blonde ale is the best...that place must suck
     
  31. rronin

    rronin Initiate (175) Jul 4, 2005 Washington

    This is just like when People Magazine names "The Most Beautiful Woman in the World" or "Sexiest Man Alive". It's 100% subjective and means absolutely nothing (except to Cape May Brewing).
     
  32. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (5,910) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Us BAs use the word "best" all the time. :wink:
     
  33. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    Hidden Sands Brewing is having it's grand opening this weekend, and should be really getting into gear by the summertime. Heard great things about the soft opening, and I'll attach the core beer lineup below. And go to Ludlam Island as well, they make some great beers!

    http://hiddensands.com/inside-hidden-sands/announcing-hidden-sands-core-beer-lineup/
     
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  34. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    Make great IPA's and Porters, and I'm sure they easily threaten the quality of South Carolina breweries. Not exactly a "Mecca" down there. Don't judge what you have not tasted, unless it's an anheuser-busch inbev product.
     
  35. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Disciple (398) Feb 24, 2011 New Jersey

    I have followed Tonewood's beginnings to this present time, and I have always enjoyed their brews! They do keep better and better, at least to my palate.

    Of course, I have heard wonderful things about Kane, but I do not go to the shore or surrounding areas much, so getting a bottle has been a challenge. A couple months ago, I did see a Kane Brewing van riding in my town of Collingswood, and I do not know if that meant anything, but it was a surprise to see!
     
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  36. BayAreaJoe

    BayAreaJoe Devotee (447) Nov 23, 2017 California

    Bold claims by an article behind a paywall? I'll pass.
     
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  37. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,385) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Best comment in thread.
     
  38. Dan_K

    Dan_K Devotee (464) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    "Sour Blonde" is kind of a wide-open descriptor. In the sour beer realm, a blonde sour could be just about anything with a light malt bill consisting mostly of (malted or unmalted) wheat and barley. This article doesn't even directly mention that it was barrel aged (in some type of barrels, not specified) or any other details about the beer. :/

    A lot of Cantillon's world-class Guezes could be classified as "sour blonde ales" in that they are blonde in color and sour in nature.
     
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  39. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Initiate (139) Aug 2, 2017 New Jersey

    To build on this point, Cape May makes tons of sours as well as Belgian influenced beers. One of their most popular offerings is Devil's Reach which is classified as a Belgian Strong Pale Ale and it is a fantastic beer. Breweries all have different strenghts, don't knock something because it isn't an ipa.
     
  40. PuppyClawz

    PuppyClawz Aspirant (219) Nov 22, 2014 Maryland

    Heavy Seas...:joy::joy::joy: As someone who has lived in Baltimore for the last 8 years I almost fainted when I read they were best brewery. Who comes up with these lists?