Are Non-Ticketed Cali Brewery Releases No Longer Worth It?

Discussion in 'US: Pacific' started by GhettoFabulous, Feb 2, 2013.

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  1. GhettoFabulous

    GhettoFabulous Initiate (0) May 29, 2010 California

    Obviously, the answer will be 'they're still worth it!!' for many BAs since we've seen the latest of these brewery-only releases attracting huge lines as early as 6 AM.

    Still, I'm wondering, how long of a wait is too long to get one of your favorite limited beers? Personally, I think I'm at a tipping point. Reading about what's taken place at KRBC this weekend, I'm having serious reservations about attending any of the forthcoming brewery only events that do not sell advance tickets. There is a certai SD county beer coming out soon that, in light of what has happened at krbc, will require at least five hours of waiting in line starting at the crack of dawn if you hope to score any bottles. As much as I desire said beer (being intentionally opaque here to discourage further fusterclucking), its beginning to seem like scooping up stuff like parabola and pugachevs cobra off the shelves is a hugely superior proposition.

    Just curious how many others are at the same junction I am? Sure, standing in line with cool BAs and such can be fun, but when we're talking about five hour plus lines, cost benefit analysis must have many thinking twice about this sort of a thing.

    Certainly, if I'm at Disneyland and there is some superlative ride with a six hour wait, I am going to opt for the shorter lines for rides that I know are also great, if not quite as fantastic as the one with the interminable, perhaps insufferable line.

    I admire te dedication of many of you, but at some point time has to be worth more than über-rare beer ...
     
  2. tyrsis

    tyrsis Savant (1,062) Mar 13, 2009 California
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    If a brewery doesn't do a release like Alesmith, they can go straight to hell.
     
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  3. luisc123

    luisc123 Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2011 California

    More online sales, more first-come first-serve distribution, less waiting in lines please
     
  4. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,950) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Russian River does it right.
     
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  5. ipa247

    ipa247 Initiate (0) Dec 23, 2008 California

    No they are not. Too many unemployed losers getting in line at 6 am in the middle of nowhere to get 6 bottles of an ipa. People with families and lives cannot compete with folks who are willing to sleep in their cars or a sleeping bag in front of a brewery. Releases like alesmith make the beers available to everyone and not just the "black friday" folks.

    And no i was not trying to get any Citra the past few days. I just think beer releases have become utterly ridiculous. I mean come on. This kind of nonsense for a Citra ipa? Every brewery and their mother makes a Citra ipa or pale ale these days. It is a solid beer for sure but nothing worth the time, effort and money expended to pick it up.
     
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  6. rrryanc

    rrryanc Pundit (884) May 19, 2006 California

    Then why do you care? I don't understand why people get so worked up about these sorts of things. If it's not worth it to you, then don't do it/buy it/etc. It's clearly worth it to others though, and bitching about how awful it is isn't going to change that. The vitrol in your post is rather astounding. Relax, have a beer.
     
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  7. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    poor people gonna poor and/or get in line at 3 am.
     
  8. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    Try focusing more on breweries that don't get fucktons of hype and you can avoid these problems.
     
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  9. rrryanc

    rrryanc Pundit (884) May 19, 2006 California

    I actually think that Russian River is one of the biggest offenders of what everyone else is complaining about. PtY is a limited release that keeps building in hype by the year. Instead of mitigating it by either producing more or charging more - they instead create a scene where people are lining up outside their brewpub hours before it opens for the better part of two weeks.

    As I said in my previous post, I don't particularly care - it's obviously working for them, and everyone that cares to stand in line to get the beer. But I certainly don't think they can be pointed to as a poster boy for limited releases.

    Personally, I prefer The Bruery's method the most, outside of what I think is their ill-advised handling of the HS this year. It guarantees them sales on beers besides their super limited ones, while preserving some of the hype that's great marketing for them. As a consumer, it's super easy to order from them, and with shipping this year- that'll get even easier.
     
  10. mjl21

    mjl21 Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2008 California

    The lines are here to stay. The Pokemon generation is all grown up and need something new to hoard.
     
  11. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2013 California

    Your attempt to not mention Exponential Hoppiness (GASP!) is as useful as saying "he-who-must-not-be-named' instead of Voldemort.

    As for me, it's easier to trade for Citra than having to wait there. I showed up at 6:30 and was in the first 50. I know #70 showed up around 7:30. In past releases, that same show-up time would have netted you about 10th in line.

    I think I'm done with Citra releases unless they do something else - but then again, what? Online sales and same-name pick up? Who knows what would actually work well.
     
  12. Rau71

    Rau71 Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2011 California

    I like how everybody assumes because people can go wait in line they must be unemployed or something. I work 4-10's I have every Friday, Saturday and Sunday off. Worked great for Citra releases in the past, but on Friday I missed out, but I was staying the night at the Lodge and got 6 bottles and I am happy. I talked to Eric about http://www.brownpapertickets.com/ and he seemed very receptive to that. That would be perfect. Sure the sales will happen at a time where someone might be working or sleeping or whatever, but you can't make everyone happy.

    Edit -
    To add to my conversation with Eric he said that in the past it had been a good time had by all, come out drink eat and get your bottles, not many people where turned away, but Friday was an eye opener that they will have to change plans. The whole point was to have a huge get together of beer nerds, but now more people where getting turned away then getting bottles and they didn't like it. They are in the early stages of an expansion with the whole point being year round Citra to avoid clusters like Friday. Hope it goes through!
     
  13. goodbetterbestbested

    goodbetterbestbested Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 California

    younger is not a "beer release" and it's mainstream which is why the lines are so bad. what are they supposed to do about it? "make more or charge more" is not a good solution lol

    their bottle releases are done well and the only line to get the bottles is the normal wait for a table.

    hopefully the alesmith method catches on though
     
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  14. GhettoFabulous

    GhettoFabulous Initiate (0) May 29, 2010 California

    If it's so obvious what I was talking about (and i'm sure it is to many) I suppose there is irony in the fact that expo is not in fact the beer I was referring to.
     
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  15. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,246) Nov 29, 2006 California
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    fail
     
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  16. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Can't wait for the Alpine Great release! Shitshow of the century!
     
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  17. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California

    Good becomes Great in a barrel, then it turns into Garbage once everyone realizes it is infected... or at least that is how it will go if it is like every other beer Alpine has put into a barrel the last few years.
     
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  18. DrAwkward82

    DrAwkward82 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2005 California

    There's room for all sorts of limited beer releases, and I have no desire to see all breweries move towards one template. Some people have flexible schedules and enjoy BA camaraderie, other people have intractable schedules and appreciate ease of access, others enjoy the chase.

    What's worth it for you may not be worth it for everybody. A fun release for me may not be a fun release for everybody. The release format I'm in the mood for today may not be the release format I'm in the mood for next month.
     
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  19. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,950) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    True, the Younger madness is out of hand but they ration it out for 2 weeks so lots of people get to try it. Nobody has to line up for the first few days, they choose to do so. They do this with all their special releases and I like it, but I see your point.
     
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  20. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    OP - I know exactly what release you are talking about. I will be there even if it means getting up at a horrible hour in LA and schlepping my ass down to SD. Unfortunately, you gotta pay to play.
     
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