Are There Any Great Beers Not Brewed in America and Europe?

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  1. ironchefkook

    ironchefkook Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 California

  2. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,185) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    Tsingtao stout in China. Pretty sure it's only available in Qingdao.
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  3. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,185) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    Unfiltered Tsingtao is good, too.
  4. CircusBoy

    CircusBoy Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2008 Ohio

    Out of the country, of course.
  5. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2012 England

    I find that brewery very hit and miss but the Wit is delicious! Good call.
  6. digita7693

    digita7693 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2010 Germany

    lol I came to say the same thing: News Flash, Canada is a part of America.

    And another FYI, the EU is not Europe, though ma
  7. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2012 England

    Que? I'm seeing way too much love for Coopers and Little Creatures on this thread. :grinning:
  8. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2012 England

    Made by an American in Japan so doesn't really count. But yes, the Dark Sky Imperial Stout is delicious and I think it's underrated on BA.
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  9. Flashy

    Flashy Pooh-Bah (1,693) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont

    The guy asked a question- apparently you have no answer. And apparently if the OP had said North America instead of America the answer would be some- but not that many.
  10. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Not mentioned yet, South Africa, I have heard stories of a small but interesting craft beer scene.
    Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Brazil and Japan all have a reasonable amount of craft breweries putting out excellent / great beer. Small but existing scenes in Israel and China (major cities only). I have a beer from Dancing Camel from Israel for instance and quit enjoyed. I have had some very good beers from Brazil & I have heard very exciting things about the scene.

    A lot of countries simply do not have a tradition of beer and the ingredients might not be indigenous. Just like you can find McDonalds almost everywhere but not an USA-style hamburger restaurant, you can find pale lagers everywhere but not always craft. Which doesn’t mean that there isn’t something local and equal fascinating around.

    Also are people using the terms Europe and European Union as synonyms because that is just confusing. They are definitely not the same thing.
  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,239) Nov 20, 2005 England

    Europe is sometimes taken to mean the continent , sometimes the EU and sometimes the land mass.It's a matter of context and the intended meaning is normally clear.Sometimes the UK is included and sometimes not! It's reasonable to ask us if we have visited Europe and by that we mean the continental land mass from which we are an offshore island.
    Similarly America can simply mean the US but equally anywhere from the tip of Chile to Ninavut in Canada. It's again a matter of context and it's usually apparent which meaning is intended.
  12. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Context usually helps indeed, I was getting no clarity here :slight_smile:
    Staments like “European brewers” etc. on their own provide no insight into logic behind the use.
    In Belgium UK is always part of the term Europe – whether you like it or not :slight_smile:
    We use the term much simpler, normally Europe is everything that is part of the continent.
    If you need to specifically talk about the EU, you just use that term.
    I know that the term continent etc. is common in the UK, never heard anyone on the continent view it like that aka continent vs. UK vs. mainland etc.
  13. aussiebeer

    aussiebeer Savant (1,053) Oct 23, 2013 Illinois

    I'm originally from Australia and been here 10 years. Only Aussie beer I'm proud of that we get here in the states is Coopers (we definitely don't drink Foster's). American craft beer is brilliant, love it.....would love to see more Aussie craft beer though. Cant wait to go back to Sydney and try some local brews. Epic and MOA out of NZ is excellent
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  14. blivingston1985

    blivingston1985 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2010 North Carolina

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  15. utopiajane

    utopiajane Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 New York

    Is that the lager that is on my local shelf? If so I will pick it up.
  16. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    Count me in on the Cooper's. The stout, sparkling ale...all their beers I've ever had are yummy!
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  17. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,104) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    While not the OP, I'd take his "Europe or America" to imply the continents of Europe (not the EU) and North America (thus including Canada and Mexico, but excluding Brazil).

    I don't have a lot of experience with brews from Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, or Japan (not including megaswill) but I'm looking forward to experiencing them as those areas develop better beer in (what I assume will be the 'near') future.
  18. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    probably not. check where it was brewed before buying
  19. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,185) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    I am not exactly certain the unfiltered Tsingtao is bottled. As far as I know it is only available out of the casks/kegs fresh from the Tsingtao brewery in Qingdao, China. My wife and I went down to Qingdao for a week and visited the Brewery. In China, the brewery is on a street infamously known as "Beer Street". The brewery is next to several fresh seafood restaurants (in fact they line up and down the street, if you love fresh seafood), and of course fresh unfiltered Tsingtao beer straight from the brewery is available at every restaurant! Much different than the stuff from the bottles. If the unfiltered stuff is bottled, someone let me know. It is GOOD! (IMO) :wink:

    BTW, if you (or anyone else) is interested in the Tsingtao International Beer Festival, it is held every August in Qingdao (that is, if you have not already gone to partake in the fun). Link:

    It is a good time! Beers from around the world, along with fresh Tsingtao. Cheers! (Gan bei!)

    Give it a shot! not sure if it is bottled. :slight_smile:
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  20. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,185) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    I hear Perth has a growing number of pretty good microbreweries. Trouble is, it is so far away from Sydney! I spent significant time in NSW and Queensland, not an expert on Australia by any means, but I do know they don't have a lot of imaginative beers (although it seems to be changing! :grinning:). I drank my share of Tooheys, XXXX Castlemaine, and Victoria Bitter while I was there! My wife and I even went on a XXXX Brewery tour in Brisbane. The fresh beer is pretty good. They had brews there that are not bottled (at the time it was 2008, so perhaps it's changed now). I agree Coopers stout is great! Australia: beautiful country, laid back, nice weather, nice people. I bet you miss it. Cheers!
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  21. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,185) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    Good points! I had some colleagues from Guatemala and they always grew confused when someone referred to the USA as "America". They also consider themselves as being from "America". Guatemala is another country that is part of "America".
  22. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    Japan has tons of great craft beers.

    Read this book:

  23. WillemHC

    WillemHC Zealot (568) Jun 21, 2013 Utah

    New Zealand has an amazing beer scene right now and is producing beers equally as good as anything you can get in the US. I was recently able to get my hands on a beer called Pernicious Weed from a brewery out of Wellington called Garage Project, and would easily say that it is my absolute favorite DIPA I have ever had.
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  24. AaronRodgersMVP12

    AaronRodgersMVP12 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2013 Wisconsin

    nope, America refers to our country. There are two continents Called North and South America though.
  25. jmgrub

    jmgrub Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2010 California

    La Rana Dorada in Panama City, Panama makes some very good beers.
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  26. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,327) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Since technically by law the Queen of England is Canada's head of state, let's just call Canada part of Europe. Problem solved! :wink:
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  27. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I thought we lived in the United States... of America.
  28. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,477) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    +1 for Epic out of NZ
  29. Keffa

    Keffa Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2009 Ohio

    What we have on the shelf is filtered. It's not bad, for what it is. Goes good with honey almond chicken, I know that much :stuck_out_tongue:

    My votes are for Baird/Hitachino/Dieu de Ciel/Unibroue.
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  30. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    By America do you mean the USA?
  31. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,239) Nov 20, 2005 England

    That takes care of Australia and New Zealand too.
    She is also Head of the Commonwealth which comprises 53 nations.

    Back to the Americas, Wikipedia (yes, I know but sometimes it gets things right) points out that to the English speaking nations America generally (but not always) means the USA, to the Latin speakers it means the whole continent, North and South. The name America was first used to describe a region nowhere near the USA.
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  32. AaronRodgersMVP12

    AaronRodgersMVP12 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2013 Wisconsin

    the most common use of "America" refers to the U.S.A., its dumb to refer to the continent of North America as "america"
  33. foles

    foles Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2007 Australia

    There are very, very good beers coming out of Australia & NZ (especially).
  34. Beervana

    Beervana Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2014 Canada (BC)

    If you don't include Canada in "America" then the answer is absolutely, yes.
    I'd say we have about 15 or so:
    - Obviously Peche Mortel and probably a few others from DDC (Aphrodisiaque maybe)
    - Couple from Unibroue, La Fin du Monde being the obvious
    - I wouldn't hesitate to call Red Racer from Central City a great beer
    - A couple great IPA's from Driftwood (Fat Tug and Sartori Harvest), Singularity too
    - Might call a couple from Les Trois Mousquetaires, Charlevoix, or some other smaller QC breweries great too

    Great beers from outside North America and Europe, that's a better question.
  35. 57md

    57md Pooh-Bah (2,587) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    All joking aside, there surely is at least one great beer brewed outside North America or Europe. That said, I have never had one.
  36. SnOwRiDe1080

    SnOwRiDe1080 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Illinois

    Definitely Japan
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  37. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    It's also dumb to refer to the United States as "America". It's lazy. Our country has a name. It's not "America". It's not like we don't have ways of abbreviating... US, USA, the States, etc.
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  38. luwak

    luwak Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2010 Arizona

    This is a hilarious thread
    Since we're taking the political definiton of Europe and the United State of America here and not geographical ones then i suggest Iceland:
    Great beers:


    basically every beer made by Borg:

    interesting to note that BA doesnt even list their big stout, the Quad, or the DIPA they make
    maybe i should be adding them.....
  39. NickRomeo

    NickRomeo Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2014 New York

    Moa imperial stout(aged in pinot noir barrels) from New Zealand is dam good and somewhat easy to find at least in my area in NY
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  40. mathieu87

    mathieu87 Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2011 Belgium

    South Africa does as well.
    Fast growing culture of craft beer.
    At the moment, Triggerfish Brewery leading the bunch by quite some distance.
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