Are you aging any cans? If so, what's your oldest?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Hanzo, Apr 22, 2013.

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  1. Hanzo

    Hanzo Savant (954) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    A recent discussion has been brought up about the downside of cans. My only concern is long term (5+ year) storage of cans and the fear of the liner (containing BPA) dissolving into the beer. I honestly do not age any beers in cans, but I am wondering if others do. And if you do what is your oldest can you have, and the oldest beer you've consumed from a can.
     
  2. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Texas

    I'm aging some Ten FiDY that was canned on my birthday. I wouldn't worry about the BPA since chances are that you've consumed quite a bit over your life time when no one knew about BPA.
     
  3. PALMEJ1

    PALMEJ1 Initiate (161) Dec 8, 2008 Alabama

    I've got 08 and 09 TenFidy's in the cellar. Tried an 09 about a month ago and it was fantastic!
     
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  4. jtmartino

    jtmartino Disciple (317) Dec 11, 2010 California

    I love your ignorant optimistic attempt at logic :slight_smile:
     
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  5. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Texas

    It's from all the lead paint I consumed as a child.
     
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  6. Ol_Johnny_Skippelwicky

    Ol_Johnny_Skippelwicky Aspirant (208) Feb 13, 2013 Minnesota

    You need to ask this question 10-20 years from now and see who's alive to answer it.
     
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  7. jtmartino

    jtmartino Disciple (317) Dec 11, 2010 California

    Tastes extra good coming out of the BPA-lined cans!
     
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    I see your bpa shhenanigans and raise you ozone depletion.

    Anyway, ten fidy is a great beer to age, I've had it with three years on it and it was exceptional.
     
  9. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Before I learned about the BPA lining being bad for you from my chemistry professor. I tried a 09 Ten Fidy forget about BPA it tasted like metal and was a complete drain pour it would have gotten a 1 rating on here but I also tried it on tap and I rated it off of that instead. As far as your BPA question it goes up exponentially with age since when some dissolves it increases the surface area. Bottom line if your determined to drink from a can do it as fresh as possible.
     
  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    Did you drink it from the can or pour it into a tulip? Or snifter?
     
  11. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Tulip I refuse to drink from cans.
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    That's odd. I've enjoyed cases on top of cases of ten fidy and have never gotten a metallic taste. Ever.
     
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  13. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    I've got a couple of Tecate cans in my fridge that somebody left at my house at a party last December.
     
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  14. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    did you drink all these cases fresh or aged?
     
  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    Yes. I've had both. Back to 2009 with no issues.
     
  16. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    I've only had 1 from 2009 but theres someone on here who said every beer in his 6 pack tasted like metal maybe it wasn't the can and just a bad batch
     
  17. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    If he's buying six packs its not 10.50.
     
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  18. CommanderOfAwesome

    CommanderOfAwesome Devotee (413) Aug 30, 2012 California

    Try one fresh and sit on one for a couple of years. Honestly the small minute amounts of BPA that may be lurking in your 4 yr old ten fidy would be fine and no worries to consume.
     
  19. TheGoof

    TheGoof Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Michigan

    I have two cans of Brewery Vivant's Escoffier left, but I have no clue on when to drink them. I hear they are tasting mighty good right now. I might have to have one soon and keep the other for a while.
     
  20. Infinite1

    Infinite1 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2010 Illinois

    I guess I need to run to the store and start aging some ten fidy
     
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  21. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    I got some ten fidy and lower de boom down in the cellar. They are both relatively fresh.
     
  22. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    I'm guessing something was wrong with the canning line. If there are any bare spots not coated with the bad plastic it could add a metal taste to your beer. If you don't believe me scratch up the inside of one of the cans reseal it with wax or something and try it in a month or 2 I'm guessing you'll taste metal.
     
  23. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    I thought you refused to drink from stemmed glassware?
     
  24. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I doubt you could taste the metal over the flat, oxidized mess that previously opened beer had turned into.
     
  25. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    Nah, I blame a psychosomatic reaction to the idea of a can... and yeah, didn't you bash tulips in a glassware thread...?
     
  26. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    I never said I hated tulips mines a New Holland Tulip it doesn't really have a stem its Tekus that I hate regular tulips are ok.
     
  27. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    That was Tekus which I still like to break but I like many tulips.
     
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  28. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    Is Ten FiDY going to come in the Imperial Pint cans? That would be fucking sweet.
     
  29. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,237) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado

    Not that I have read, but gknight deviant and I've heard gubna are all going to plus the super tall dales and pils. Yummy.
     
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  30. VeganUndead

    VeganUndead Poo-Bah (1,688) Apr 25, 2012 Virginia

    In addition to my ten fidy, which only has a little over a year on it, I have a few cans still of Monk's Blood that I will try to taper out until they start producing it again. 2 years on the ones I have and still is incredible.
     
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  31. jbland21

    jbland21 Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2012 Illinois

    ...pretty sure kegs are lined with bpa so you better not drink any aged beers on tap.
     
  32. videofrog

    videofrog Zealot (515) Nov 13, 2010 Texas

    This thread reminded me of how I have a set of Pepsi Star Wars Episode I cans "aging" in my old bedroom closet in my parent's house. Can't wait to crack the Jar Jar Mountain Dew for a special occasion!
     
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  33. afrokaze

    afrokaze Zealot (538) Jun 12, 2009 Arizona
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    kegs are usually stainless steel and not lined.
     
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  34. jtmartino

    jtmartino Disciple (317) Dec 11, 2010 California

    Oh jesus. I bet it will taste like animal urine. Even then, it'll only be half as bad as that abomination of a movie.
     
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  35. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Are you drunk kegs are made of stainless steel
     
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  36. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    I still think the "metallic taste" argument is silly...do you taste it from a keg? There isn't even a liner there.
     
  37. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Like I told the other guy scratch up the inside of your can as much as possible then reseal and leave the beer for a few weeks to a month then tell me you don't taste metal. If theres any spot on the can missing the liner like if the canning factory messes up your beer will touch the aluminum and taste like metal the longer it ages the more metal and bpa it will pick up.
     
  38. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Yeah, maybe that happened...sorry, it just seems very unlikely to me. I have had aged cans (only up to about a year and a half) that if nothing else seem fresher than aged bottles. And, no metal to speak of.

    Plenty of canning breweries around me now, and while I mostly drink the beers fresh, I have never detected metal. Actually, back in my miller lite days, people would talk about metal, and I still never really got it.
     
  39. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    to be fair miller lite basically has no flavor at least nothing good so I'm guessing that would make any even small amount of metal easier to taste than say a imperial stout like ten fidy also some people are more sensitive to certain tastes than other people my guess is since it you seem to think it was alot of people they weren't all imagining things
     
  40. GRG1313

    GRG1313 Poo-Bah (3,634) Jan 15, 2009 California
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    The real question for me is "does beer age in a can?" Traditionally, "aging" was a wine concept that has been relatively recently favorably adopted by beer afficionados. The wine "aging" refers to, basically, the oxidation of the wine in the bottle - oxidation from the oxygen in the bottle and from the small amount of oxygen/air that gets in through the cork.

    So, for me, I have to ask smarter people than me the question. Is there oxygen in a can? Are there any other gases in the can that would allow a beer to age "or oxidize" as the case may be?

    Seems to me that brewers are starting to can for the very purpose that it eliminates or reduces the "aging" thus making the beer "fresh" longer. No?
     
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