Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #20 - Flavor/Aroma Hop Regions

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Apr 28, 2018.


Limit Flavor and Aroma Hops to European Varieties only?

Poll closed Apr 30, 2018.
  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania

    -> Poll #19 <- determined that the recommended mash length will be 60 minutes.

    Now begins the (possibly) long, arduous task of hops selection. First, let's see if the crowd wants to narrow the field for Flavor/Aroma hops (if any) by specifying European varieties only. (For the purposes of this poll, I'm defining flavor/aroma hops as hops added with less than 45 minutes remaining in the boil, or added post boil). By European, I mean hops that are grown mainly in Europe and are not generally associated with another continent. For example, Cascade would not be a European variety for our purposes, because even though it is now also grown in the UK, it's more commonly associated with the USA. On the other hand, Saaz would be a European variety, because even though it's now also grown in the USA, it's more commonly associated with the Czech Republic.

    This will be a simple plurality poll.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently.

    The Averagely Perfect Dubbel Recipe so far...

    Target ABV: 7.0%
    OG: 1.065
    FG: 1.012
    Yeast: Wyeast 3787 or WLP530
    Mash (recommended): 60 Minutes @ 152F
    Assumed Mash Efficiency: 70%

    ---Belgian Pilsner Malt (86%)
    ---D-90 Syrup (8%)
    ---Caramunich (4% Total)
    ---Special B (2%)
  2. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Initiate (111) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I'm going to guess this will be a quick poll.
  3. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,378) Jul 5, 2010 Maryland

    No, just cause Michigan Empire would be awesome. I know most folks won't be able to get it and it won't win, but...
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,906) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin

    Although I'd be OK substituting US hops that are close to Euro varieties, the recipe should target a Euro variety.​
    Chinook is European, right?

    But really, @VikeMan, if this is the place to write in "no flavor/aroma hops," that's the way I roll for dubbels.
  5. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (11,927) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I don't know that no flavor/ aroma hops is necessary, particularly concerning flavor, but I'd certainly keep them low. However, I should note that there are only bittering hops in my recipe.
  6. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Disciple (393) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I must remark that this Averagely Perfect process is much less contentious than those for earlier beers. A bit boring, in fact! Come on, people, let's rumble!
  7. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,378) Jul 5, 2010 Maryland

    I tried!
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  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania

    There will be a poll later on timing of additions.
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  9. Naugled

    Naugled Defender (640) Sep 25, 2007 New York

    Is Empire a varietal?
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,378) Jul 5, 2010 Maryland

    Yep. About 2/3 of the way down here: https://www.twokfarm.com/hops.html
    I found the description to be pretty spot on. Wish I had more.
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  11. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Good because I am envisioning lots of dryhopped citra

  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Alrighty. Looks like European varieties only.
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