Averagely Perfect Kölsch - Poll #13 - Flavor/Aroma Hop Regions

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, May 11, 2020.

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Limit Flavor and Aroma Hops to German Varieties only?

Poll closed May 13, 2020.
  1. Yes

    79.2%
  2. No

    20.8%
  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,957) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Poll #12 <- determined that the recommended mash length will be 60 minutes.

    Now begins the (possibly) long, arduous task of hops selection. First, let's see if the crowd wants to narrow the field for Flavor/Aroma hops (if any) by specifying German varieties only. (For the purposes of this poll, I'm defining flavor/aroma hops as hops added with less than 45 minutes remaining in the boil, or added post boil). By German, I mean hops that are grown mainly in Germany and are not generally associated with another region. For example, Amarillo would not be an German variety for our purposes, because even though it is now grown in Germany, it's more commonly associated with the US.

    This will be a simple plurality poll. Pollster reserves the right to cast (or not) tie-breaking votes.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via PM. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently.

    The Averagely Perfect Kölsch Recipe so far...

    Target ABV: 4.8%
    OG: 1.045
    FG: 1.008
    Recommended Mash Temp: 149F
    Recommended Mash Time: 60 minutes
    Yeast: Wyeast 2565 Kölsch

    Grain Bill:
    - German Pilsner Malt (90%)
    - Wheat Malt (10%)
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,957) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Also, if there are particular flavor/aroma hop varieties you'd like to see included in the next poll, please mention them here.
     
  3. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,369) Jul 5, 2010 Maryland

    Flavor/aroma should be low, so what does it matter? A little touch of Nelson Sauvin may bring out of the "white wine" notes of the yeast.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,883) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Or maybe no Flavor/Aroma hops whatsoever to permit the white wine esters produced by Wyeast 2565 to 'shine'!?!:thinking_face:

    Cheers!
     
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  5. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Initiate (70) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    I'd prefer some flavor hops as the flavor of 2565 doesn't do a lot for me. I've only made 2 brews with it so not a ton of experience but both had no flavor hops and they were pretty boring beers. A little something extra seemed to be needed
     
  6. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Disciple (393) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Hallertaur Mitt., Tettnanger, Hersbrucker.
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,883) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Ugh. The first post using the dreaded B-word (boring) for a Kolsch beer.

    Non-cheers!

    P.S. What will we see next. A poll for dry hopping!?!:grimacing:
     
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  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,905) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    While I voted German, I am curious what American hops some of you could be tempted to use when making a German style. I like Sterling and have enjoyed in beers that traditionally might get Saaz.
     
  9. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Initiate (111) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I voted to allow others, cause I need an excuse to try Vanguard...
     
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  10. riptorn

    riptorn Disciple (389) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    If you had asked "what non-German hops...." I would have said Styrian Golding Celia. But you didn't, so I won't.
     
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  11. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,369) Jul 5, 2010 Maryland

    Not American, but I think Nelson Sauvin or Pacifica would be nice

    I also think that Hallertau Blanc would be nice, to keep it German, but not traditional.

    Either way, it should just be a touch. It's a Koelsch, not a session IPA
     
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  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,957) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm invoking the mercy rule. Flavor/Aroma Hops, if any, will be German.