Avery Barrel Aged Releases and general Colorado malaise

Discussion in 'US: Mountain' started by Skagnetti, May 14, 2015.

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  1. Skagnetti

    Skagnetti Pundit (783) Dec 6, 2013 Colorado

    Live in the Boulder CO area and have long been a fan of Avery. For a number of years their barrel aged releases were fairly limited and hard to find even in Colorado at times. After moving to their new huge building, and even right before the move took place, their barrel aged production has increased severely. It has gotten to the point that I was trying to trade their 3 new sours (Tectum et Elix, Insula multos Collibus, and Fortuna) and a Black Eye for a Vanilla Rye and someone from New York told me they were all sitting on the shelves there. Call bullshit on Black Eye still being around, but Avery's increase in production and distribution I believe him on the sours. I know Uncle Jacobs and Rumpkin increased in production over the years, but I thought for sure the sours would still be a little more limited. WRONG! Besides Casey, which takes a lot of dedication to get if you don't live in the mountains, or Crooked Stave which you need a membership for, Avery was one of our only other breweries that brewed limited signature "trade bait" beer. With Colorado being one of the sweetheart craft beer states, it's surprising that we don't have more signature, limited run beers that people want to trade for. Pretty hard to trade beers here unless you luck into finding limited release beers from other states that have good trade value. I know that there is plenty of good beer here in the hundreds of great breweries in this state and I partake of it quite often, however once you get addicted to beer trading (as many of you know it's very easy to do and your next trade is always your "last trade") you are constantly assessing trade values and looking for beers that can get you other beers that you want. I know, I know, crying in my beer and all that other stuff, but I want to at least cry in one of those rare beers that I can't get my hands on with what I have been given access to!!!

    Anyone else face this "life altering conundrum"? :angry:
     
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  2. HomeBrewed

    HomeBrewed Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2006 Minnesota

    This bothers you so much that you felt the need to post it in multiple forums? First world problems. Relax and enjoy a beer.
     
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  3. Skagnetti

    Skagnetti Pundit (783) Dec 6, 2013 Colorado

    Posted in 2 different forums based on the relevance it has in each. I'm grown up enough to know that this tiny issue I have doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the grand scope of life and certainly doesn't affect my life in a serious way. Just talking beer and wondering if there are others that share some of my thoughts. Exaggerated in parts for effect only. I'll think I will relax now and enjoy that beer. Now the question is should I drink an Uncle Jacobs or Imperial Biscotti Break? First world problems indeed man!
     
  4. DenverBeerDrinker

    DenverBeerDrinker Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2012 Colorado

    Crooked Stave isn't membership anymore and quite a few of their beers don't make it out of state. Batch 50 went on sale tonight with a 4 bottle limit, brewery only and 100 cases for sale. By the time I left I was pretty sure they might sell out tonight.

    Colorado gets great distro for beers. We get beers that used to sell out within hours that just sit on shelves now.

    I have no problem trading beers from here for what I want. Can I get everything? No but I can't complain with what I do get. I have several regular trading partners that send me a message and I send them the beer. I'm sure I can ask any one of them for the same in return.

    Avery beers might be getting more distro based on the increase in production but that $12 beer here still costs $12-18 other places. sometimes it's still cheaper to trade with someone in CO then it is to buy the bottles in say NY.
     
  5. tylerstravis

    tylerstravis Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Colorado

    I find this interesting, but not upsetting. Avery has been good trade bate in the past, but I'm not seeing that much lately. Casey, CS and Liquid Brain are still local go-to's but I'm actually happier having good beers readily available than making sure they are tradable.
     
  6. FishPondManager

    FishPondManager Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 Colorado

    If you're so concerned about obtaining trade bait, you may need to shop outside the city of Boulder. Shocking, I know.
     
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  7. ablackshear

    ablackshear Zealot (683) Sep 17, 2010 Minnesota

    We get so much good beer here now that I haven't traded in almost a year. We get more great beer than I can even drink without turning into a fat alcoholic with diabeetus, so I don't care one bit about the tradeability of our beer.
     
  8. tylerstubs

    tylerstubs Initiate (0) May 14, 2015 Colorado

    What's trade bait? I like Avery's beers. Why would I be mad that other people get them too?

    First day on here. Sorry. LOL.
     
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  9. Dschwartz83

    Dschwartz83 Zealot (509) Feb 1, 2013 New Jersey
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    We still get very limited amounts of the barrel aged Avery stuff here in NJ (at $15-$18 a bottle) and as far as I know, we have not seen any of the sours. I will be in Denver at the end of the month and hope to take a ride to check out Avery's new facility. Does anyone know if there are still bottles of the sours available there or will I be able to find them on the shelves in Denver? I'd really love to try them.
     
  10. DenverBeerDrinker

    DenverBeerDrinker Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2012 Colorado

    Should be able to find them on the shelves.
     
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  11. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,240) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah

    I stopped trading years ago because I can get 99% of what I want in town or in Boulder/Ft. Collins. I'd much rather have it this way.
     
  12. jerichobear

    jerichobear Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2010 Colorado

    This pretty much sums it up for me. If you live in Colorado and have a car, you can easily obtain what I consider to be some of the best beer in the country, from multiple top tier breweries. While it can be cool to trade for something different, I just don't think you'll get anything better.
     
  13. tylerstubs

    tylerstubs Initiate (0) May 14, 2015 Colorado

    Yeah. For everything BUT super high quality PACKAGED IPA.

    Not just really good but great stuff.
     
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  14. beatenbyjacks

    beatenbyjacks Savant (1,151) Apr 17, 2011 Colorado

    I need to take this advice and just chill. Full cellar, more beer trades en route, I think my trading days are numbered. Especially after 3 straight Avery Releases and the Batch 50 Release. Hard to pass a trade for some Trillium, but I will have to stop soon!

    Still some Batch 50 as of 9:30 last night when I left....
     
  15. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,240) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah

    I used to do a fair amount of trading, but just got sick of it. It doesn't mean that their aren't great beers out there we don't get. There are certainly plenty, especially heading through the rust belt. However I think people often trade based on name value while ignoring a lot of the insanely good beers we do get because they have no trade value. Beer trading is starting to remind me of comic books and baseball cards in the 90's. People are excited for the prospect of something being the next big thing more than actual enjoyment. There are literally hundreds of beers on the shelf in Grapevine or Lukas that I'm certain most of us haven't tried. We're probably sitting on the next Heady but people are too busy lusting after midwestern beers that will be cool today and garnering eye rolls next year. For every overvalued Chicago area beer we have 1/2 dozen (from all over the country) on our shelves people don't even acknowledge.
     
  16. djs467

    djs467 Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 Colorado

    This post is silly.
    I can't see a negative side to increased production of the "limited beers" at some of the CO front range breweries.
    *) No more waiting in line at the breweries for a release when you know it's going to be around town for the next week or so.
    *) Less demand on the trading forums leads to less people just looking for "trade bait" and more beer for us people who actually like to drink it.

    So I'm sorry that you can no longer hoard beer in order to get more beer from out-of-state, but I like walking into a store and being able to buy a bottle of Tectun et Elix 4 weeks after the release and not worrying if I'm ever going to see this beer again.
     
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  17. ablackshear

    ablackshear Zealot (683) Sep 17, 2010 Minnesota

    Between Pliny, Sculpin (regular and Grapefruit), The Calling, Odell IPA, all of the FW IPAs, Space Dust, and probably half a dozen more I'm forgetting, I no longer lament the IPA selection we get here. I love hoppy beer so there are always other ones I'd like to have occasionally, but I don't think we are lacking at all compared to other areas
     
  18. Skagnetti

    Skagnetti Pundit (783) Dec 6, 2013 Colorado

    OK. Points well taken! I'm not as much of an idiot as many of you have pegged me to be.

    For everyone's information:
    1. I do shop outside of Boulder and all over Colorado.
    2. I greatly appreciate all of the wonderful beer brewed in Colorado and agree that we have some of the greatest breweries in the country.
    3. I am happy increased production leads to many others being able to drink good beer as well.
    4. Still enjoy the rush of getting a fun and interesting trade done for something I can't get my hands on here.
    5. I do frequent numerous local breweries and buy their beer on a regular basis. Just do trading on the side and am not some knuckle dragging, beer mongering, hoarder.

    Thanks for everyone's input! Guess I'll know better than to open my big fat mouth regarding this particular subject again in the future. :slight_frown:

    Now, who wants to trade for some Avery Sours? :grinning: (Just joking for all of you super serious beer guys)
     
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  19. McNazz

    McNazz Savant (1,055) Feb 19, 2013 Colorado

    I for one am glad that CO isn't a Chicago-land, etc. I detest waiting 3+ hours in line for a single bottle of beer. Leisurely showing up the next day after a release and picking up the same bottle is what I prefer.
     
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  20. tylerstubs

    tylerstubs Initiate (0) May 14, 2015 Colorado


    I hear ya, but so something I would trade for. Not crying at all, just saying.
     
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