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Bad trade with dcsoke

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by gikiniji, Mar 11, 2013.

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  1. gikiniji

    gikiniji Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2011 Canada (QC)

    I was looking for some FFF and I live in Canada so I got in contact with dcsoke and we got a arrangement on 12 beers I send mine he send his . He received is box with 2 bottles broken and I apologize for it and tell him that I will resend those bottle when winter will be gone! But the problem here is that is box got flag at the border because he didn't write the right form for the border and I never received any bottles. So I told him that I can find a American address for him to send back but he refuse because 2 bottles broke in the box I ship him. That is not a reason for not shipping back he got his beer and I got a 100$ bill for nothing. I'm very piss what can I do now?
     
    #1 gikiniji, Mar 11, 2013
  2. Ataraxia

    Ataraxia Zealot (574) Sep 20, 2012 California
    Trader

    Er, should I be worried about our planned trade? How complicated is the red tape and paperwork?
     
    #2 Ataraxia, Mar 11, 2013
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  3. EgadBananas

    EgadBananas Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2009 Louisiana


    It's not that difficult, really. But you do have to fill out a customs form and declare a specific product group, specific value and pack the FUCK out of th box...cuz the last thing you want is a broken bottle going through customs. I'll walk you through the process if you'd like, just send me a message.
     
    #3 EgadBananas, Mar 11, 2013
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  4. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Initiate (0) May 6, 2012 Illinois

    Did his bottles get returned to him? Or lost/confiscated? Either way, he owes you a box and I would think the US address would help. From what I understand, proper paperwork is a known risk with international trades, and he is at fault if not filed correctly. He should honor the trade, or worst case scenario send your beer back to the US address you offered so at a minimum you are out money (albeit, a lot). This sucks, sorry man.
     
    #4 Mjmoser, Mar 11, 2013
  5. Bad_Trader

    Bad_Trader Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Namibia

    He had to clean up two broken bottles you sent him. You should send him another box for his troubles.
     
    #5 Bad_Trader, Mar 11, 2013
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  6. Rutager

    Rutager Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2010 Canada (BC)

    You owe him the two broken bottles, he owes you the box agreed on. Providing him with a US address is going above and beyond if this was agreed to be an international trade. This dick needs to go on the bad trader list.

    On a side note, if you have a US address available to you, it's so much better to use that and send within the US if at all possible.
     
    #6 Rutager, Mar 11, 2013
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  7. gikiniji

    gikiniji Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2011 Canada (QC)

    It is really not complicated he just write that a 20 pound of collectible glassware worth 1$ who will pay 50$ in shipping for something that worth 1$ I got a lot of us trade done and it's the first time someone do that
     
    #7 gikiniji, Mar 11, 2013
  8. whiskey

    whiskey Maven (1,296) Feb 25, 2012 California
    Trader

    Come on OP, get with the details!
     
    #8 whiskey, Mar 11, 2013
  9. gikiniji

    gikiniji Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2011 Canada (QC)

    The bottle got confiscated... Because he never claim them back!
     
    #9 gikiniji, Mar 11, 2013
  10. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    Sounds to me that it is a cluster *uck all around. You both owe each other beer. I suspect he could have posted this same thread against you.

    BTW- Sentence structure is important.
     
    #10 MADhombrewer, Mar 11, 2013
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  11. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,678) Sep 24, 2010 Nebraska
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Perhaps English is not his first language.
     
    #11 tacosandbeer, Mar 11, 2013
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  12. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    He lists the OP as a successful trade in his profile.
     
    #12 mcc1654, Mar 11, 2013
  13. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    Ah. Didn't think of that. Didn't mean to be an a$$hole.
     
    #13 MADhombrewer, Mar 11, 2013
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  14. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Texas

    She's a real sweet lady. Very down to earth too :slight_smile:
     
    #14 starkmarvelo, Mar 11, 2013
  15. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Y'all both need to work this one out amicably or we're staring at the first ever double bad trader scenario.
     
    #15 cbeer88, Mar 11, 2013
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  16. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Would that be a double dick move, then? :confused:
     
    #16 kmello69, Mar 11, 2013
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  17. dachshunddude86

    dachshunddude86 Initiate (0) Dec 21, 2012 Florida

    I believe this is what is called a sword fight. It make sense to, they both owe beer so now they get to duel to see who sends first.
     
    #17 dachshunddude86, Mar 11, 2013
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  18. gikiniji

    gikiniji Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2011 Canada (QC)

    I already propose to him to resend the broken bottles and to add some extra for the problem it occur. But he didn't want to send back his bottle so I won't give him more bottle for nothing. Understood? I have not a bad trader!
     
    #18 gikiniji, Mar 11, 2013
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  19. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I was half-joking... I think he's more in the wrong than you are, but this is a really weird "bad trader" situation. Quite frankly, I don't even know what protocol really is when customs comes into play. Hence, it's probably for the best if you guys just work it out together.
     
    #19 cbeer88, Mar 11, 2013
  20. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    He did get 10 beers from the guy..He really should re-send...The OP should not really be screwed because the the other guy had no clue how to send the beer international....Its not his fault and he gets zero out of the deal?
     
    #20 tommyz, Mar 11, 2013
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