Barleywine Appreciation Thread (2023)

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DIM, Jan 1, 2023.

  1. Pereza987

    Pereza987 Zealot (641) Nov 2, 2014 Florida
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    Slight derail perhaps, with a wee heavy. Spirit forward with an impression of sweetness that is quickly knocked down by drying oak on the taste. Definitely peaty, oaky, and surprisingly attenuated malt character. Striking color and clarity. I’ve had this before, but had forgotten how solid of a brew it is.
     
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  2. Uberdachen

    Uberdachen Aspirant (231) Jun 21, 2019 Minnesota
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    Wild mind ales- the great decay

    An awful work day setting up an awfuller work day called for a fitting barleywine. Had this at the brewery at its release and it was fantastic. The first bottle I cracked after, barely into-pandemic, was a flat disappointment. My brother opened one at the same time elsewhere and was also flat. So my expectation was…

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    Yep. Completely flat. But tonight, a few years later, still entirely drinkable. Deep and dense bourbon and caramel aromas and flavors.

    Work was going to be dumb tomorrow anyways.
     
  3. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I am thoroughly enjoying my evening. Sci-fi paired with an old friend and a new one.

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    Started off with a short pour of 2015 Utopias. I've been curious about this for a looong time and it's worth the wait. So damn much going on here, some of the components are approaching 30 years old at this point.

    Then on to my first Bigfoot of 2023. I've come to appreciate this fresh in recent years more than I used to. I just don't perceive the bitterness as being so big, brash, and abrasive anymore. This is not a shy beer by any means, but it does seem pretty balanced for a fresh Bigfoot. Sugar cookies and caramel to go along with a potent hop punch that has a decent amount of fresh, juicy citrus to go along with the pithy rind. I am enjoying the hell out of this right now.
     
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  4. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Reserva from Brasserie Atrium in Belgium. Aged in Old Forester bourbon barrels for 7 months, and comes in at 10.5% ABV. The bourbon is very noticeable, so I'm glad it was only 7 months for this one.

    Poured at fridge temp. Pours a medium brown color with a LOT of slightly off-white head. The beer itself is muddy looking. The head is absolutely relentless. Won't go down, even after about 10 minutes.

    The nose is toffee, red wine, dark fruits, bread, and some bourbon.

    The taste is fantastic. Rich toffee, big malts, Belgian yeast, toast, a nice bourbon note, a slight note of Armagnac, plums, and a hint of honey. Very nice barleywine! Mouthfeel is medium bodied and the aftertaste is primarily toffee.

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  5. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Cheers! That is one heck of a night! I have yet to splurge for a Utopias (now $250 around here), but will probably one day! Crazy that you already have a 2023 Bigfoot. It still hasn't dropped HERE, in southern CALIFORNIA, where the dang beer is from!
     
  6. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Alright, I just counted and it looks like I reviewed 80 new barleywines in 2022. Big thanks to @DIM for helping a LOT with that. The goal for 2023 is now clear :grin:
     
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  7. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I've helped you out with Bigfoot before, let me know if you need me to send you some.:grin:
    Wow, 80 is a big number! Good luck in 2023, I'll bet you beat me this year. I'm guessing you've got a pretty good size barleywine backlog?
     
  8. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Thanks, man! We definitely should see the regular Bigfoot, but it always seems to take longer than the rest of the country. Why? I have no idea.

    Yes, the backlog is real, including some from you! I am sure I have 20 that I need to review! It's a tough life, that's for sure :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  9. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I plan to drink a lot of Bigfoot this year, having a 2016 tonight. Lots of caramel, some short bread, hints of cherry, and just a little grapefruit zest. Drinking really well right now.
     
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  10. Davl22

    Davl22 Maven (1,317) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
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    2021 Sebago BA Barleywine: One of my favorite local barleywines. The complexity and balance has grown over the years. Dried orange peel, nougat, toffee, and cocoa powder. Creamy carb. Boozy warmth on the finish.
     
  11. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I bought a bunch of those this summer in Maine, it's a damn good barleywine. Only have 1 left.
     
  12. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,490) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    Triskaidekaphobia - Brewery of Broken Dreams

    Been sitting on this for almost three years, because I wanted to open it on a specific date. Which is more difficult than it should have been.

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    Leaves a film on the glass, with no legs. A vigorous swirl produces a short lived head, otherwise the carbonation appears to have been frightened into submission.

    Rich sweet malt with strong fig and dates. Sherry quickly gives way to floral notes that never fully develop. These mostly dissipate to earthy spice. Warmth brings out some mildly sweet caramelized sugar.

    The flavor is shockingly mild, especially for the style. Bitterness is mild, sweetness is less evident. Fig and and charred sugar. Sweetness amplifies with warmth, as does the fig flavor. Otherwise this one is under performing. Finish is looooooooooooong and mild.

    Alcohol is below expectations. A light body with gossamer smooth silky texture. Carbonation is here, light, yet much more present than the appearance would have one believe.

    This Barlewine straddles the American and English guidelines. I love the concept, even if after nearly 3 years wait it falls short of the greatness potential. All said, there is potential here. Let’s see if future releases have learned from the past.
     
  13. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (4,328) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    So...what was the sci-fi part of the evening? book or film?
     
  14. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (4,328) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Back to the barleywine thread with a new beer for the DB. This is Tribus Brewing in Milford, CT and their collaboration with Lasting Brass Brewing. Brass Roots is a 9% barleywine that features molasses and bourbon soaked oak chips. Always like promoting Connecticut folks with the beers I post, so here we are.

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    I picked up this 500 ml bottle at the brewery today and the label says bottled in Dec 2022. SO this is a pretty fresh barleywine.
    I am pouring into my snifter at slightly below cellar temperature. The bottle was refrigerated at the brewery upon purchase.
    The beer pours into my glass a clear mahogany color, when I hold it to the light, it gets to be much more deep garnet red. A creamy beige head of 1.5 cm foams up and fades to a sturdy edge layer and one large island on the surface. Fairly tight lattice when I swirl the glass or take a sip.
    Aroma is some brown sugar and toffee with hints of dry wooden notes and a bit of an earthy hop profile. No hint of the ABV on the aroma. Not as sweet of a nose as I anticipated based on the bourbon soaked chips and molasses used in the beer.
    First sip reveals a medium body and slightly sticky texture with very fine and tingly carbonation. A little bit of a coating on my palate after each sip.
    Flavor starts with some brown sugar and a bit of toffee, maybe even a hint of butterscotch. Again I get some dry wood, almost like a popsicle stick or toothpick. I do pick up a little bourbon here and again some earthy hops with maybe just a hint of boozy bite on the swallow. The flavors all work, I was hoping for a little more boldness on the flavor profile. What is there is good, just not as robust as I had hoped.
    Still glad to have tried this one to support a local brewery making a barleywine. Would probably get it again, may get one and let it sit for a bit to see if any one flavor takes over more.

    3.97 in the BA DB
     
  15. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Bigfoot isn't my favorite, but I still make it a point to grab a fresh bottle every year when it's released. I did that for this year already, earlier this week. Now, I didn't take a picture because I was having it with dinner and was lazy, but it's crazy how murky my bottle was compared to yours. It didn't really taste any different but I figured this years batch just looked like that lol
     
  16. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Last in an amazing trilogy. Any recommendations on where to go next?
     
  17. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I've had a couple of older ones go murky, never a fresh one though. If you don't love fresh Bigfoot, have you ever had one with some years behind it?
     
  18. CarolinaCardinals

    CarolinaCardinals Grand Pooh-Bah (4,253) Jun 11, 2003 North Carolina
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    Happy New Year Dan!
    Do you have a true basement cellar and if so does the temperature stay pretty consistent? Since relocating to NC i no longer have a wine fridge and our house does not have a basement so i am pretty much out of the aging game.
    Cheers!
    Tom
     
  19. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Happy 2023 to you Tom! Is it wrong that I chuckled at someone living in a retirement community saying that they are out of the aging game?:wink:

    Our basement does stay a consistent 55-60 degrees. All of my Bigfeet seem to like it down there, they age beautifully.
     
  20. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,490) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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  21. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I hope Tom laughs:grimacing:
     
  22. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (4,328) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    I just finished the first three of Red Rising by Pierce Brown.
    https://www.goodreads.com/series/117100-red-rising-saga
    Really enjoyed the first 3 so far. Pretty violent at times but good rebellion versus an empire plot, interesting caste system society.
     
  23. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (3,819) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
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    This beer is unique. I really like it. The cherry scent is strong, but the cherry flavor blends in well.
     
  24. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Nahh the oldest I had was only a year old and it still tasted pretty much the same lol. It's not that I don't enjoy them but I tend to prefer the sweeter leaning English Barleywines vs the Americans. I wonder how close an aged Bigfoot comes to English
     
  25. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Is that 3 years blended together? Sounds amazing.

    Not quite English, but the change is dramatic. Happy to send you a couple if you message me your address.
     
  26. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Oh man, how kind! Sending you a message rn
     
  27. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,107) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Side Project M.J.K.

    cheers!!
     
  28. CarolinaCardinals

    CarolinaCardinals Grand Pooh-Bah (4,253) Jun 11, 2003 North Carolina
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    :rofl::rofl:
     
  29. Rug

    Rug Pooh-Bah (2,778) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Damn man, you didn't have to flex that hard! :open_mouth:
     
  30. CarolinaCardinals

    CarolinaCardinals Grand Pooh-Bah (4,253) Jun 11, 2003 North Carolina
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    Hey Dan,
    I had Cellar Cuvee 1 a couple of days before you did but was on the fence about posting it but since you are the leader of the "barleywine hounds pack" i am now compelled to post a couple of hybrids! So, from my Cellar Cuvee review which i rated it a 4.45 Overall:

    Nose is very nice with notes of leather, vanilla, and a touch of bourbon. If i closed my eyes i would say this was a Firestone Walker BA brew!
    Taste is very nice as the blend lends a nice tame malt base not heavily roasted in which the barrels impart notes of bourbon, vanilla, and fig. Finishes nicely balanced from the barrel with no hint of overt sweetness.
    Mouthfeel is medium to heavy bodied and very smooth.

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    Today, i am finally getting around to enjoying Casita's Something So Sincere. Wow, what an interesting brew. A bit on the sweet side but a lot of good stuff going on. From my notes which i rated this a 4.18 Overall:

    Nose is sweet with large fruity malts dominating.
    Taste is a huge malt base that gives you a light touch of roasted malts, dark fruits, some vanilla from the bourbon barrels and a slight sour tang from the port barrels. Finishes a scootch sweet but in the manner of an English Barleywine.
    Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied and very smooth.
    Overall a unique take on the barleywine and imperial stout styles, kind of in the style of Firestone Walker Anniversary series but with the additions for their own special touch. Check this out if you are up for a taste adventure!!

    Cheers!
    Tom

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  31. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (3,819) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
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    Yes. It is amazing.
     
  32. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Great notes, I thoroughly enjoyed both of those! Very glad you have a sense of humor:grin:
     
  33. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Brewer's Choice 2022: Crème Brûlée from Boulevard. A barleywine aged in bourbon barrels with natural flavors. Sent to me by @DIM in a recent trade.

    Poured from a bottle at fridge temp. Pours a murky brown with a very small layer of head. The nose is fantastic. Delicious figs, toffee, cream puff, vanilla, marshmallow, graham crackers, chocolate, pie crust, and a hint of apples and raisins. Just lovely to sit and smell this one.

    The taste is great. Sweet candy, vanilla, slightly burnt toffee, marmalade, maple, apple pie, bread, plums, and raisins. Really enjoyable. The ABV is literally not detectable in any way. This could be 5% and I wouldn't know.

    The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a relatively sweet aftertaste. Never too sweet.

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  34. Luscious_Malfoy

    Luscious_Malfoy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,107) Oct 5, 2016 Illinois
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    it’s only a 2oz pour :wink:
     
  35. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,493) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    2022 East End Brewing Gratitude, canned 1/24/22 so just about a year old. I've had it in the fridge since I picked up a 4 pack at the brewery back this summer, since I enjoyed the fresh hops on this. Still a nice combo of rich caramel malt flavors and dank hops
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  36. Jow13

    Jow13 Aspirant (252) Apr 5, 2016 Massachusetts

    Drinking a 2014 Anniversary Alesmith Decadence. Smells terrific. Tastes better as it warms of cherry and tobacco. Perhaps a little too much age but still quite pleasant.
     
  37. Hinda65

    Hinda65 Maven (1,470) May 7, 2017 Utah
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    This says it's an American Barleywine, doesn't taste like one...tastes like a great old English barleywine, not to sweet, thick with a little bit of booze, fruit, dark chocolate. i might get a fire goin and like light my pipe

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  38. augustgarage

    augustgarage Pooh-Bah (2,175) May 20, 2007 California
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    3.68/5 rDev -11.8%
    look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

    2017 vintage - poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter.

    Clear fulvous liquid with a fizzy whisper of foam that is quickly silenced. Nearly still, no lacing, though the tears leave a viscous even sheen along the sides.

    Maple sugar, with a wave of stewed fruit and faint tobacco in the nose. Focused and potent yet fugitive/fleeting.

    Unctuous, chewy, spirit-heavy, woody palate entry - burnt sugar, fudge, and peppercorn unfurl into the lumbering dry finish. Vanilla and maple are present, but there is a medicinal savory edge to everything with leather, dandelion greens, and brandy notes. Very distinctive and unusual.

    Medium bodied, warming, a bit sticky.

    Singular, befuddling, and lingering.
     
  39. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (3,772) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    That sounds very different from the 2019's I've enjoyed. Better open that last one before the medicinal dandelion greens emerge, not what I look for in a barleywine.:astonished:
     
  40. TheBricenator

    TheBricenator Maven (1,265) Nov 13, 2007 Oregon

    I love Barleywines and personally enjoy them any and all which ways - fresh, aged, English, American - except for ones that have flavor additives and barrel-aged ones as to me, they can detract from what I enjoy about all the subtleties the malt and hops bring to the style but YMMV.
    I've currently been enjoying Breakside's Life series as each volume uses a different maltster and blend of malts and the two (1 & 2) I've had have been fantastic examples with the first bringing a lot of nice dried dark fruit notes, tobacco, and light fruitiness to the table where as the second is chock full of varying heated/carmelized sugar notes that span from toffee to molasses to piloncillo and even brought a little chocolate to the table as well.
    I've been waiting with great anticipation for 2023 Bigfoot to drop around here and I always enjoy that beer fresh as I prefer it that way plus my ability to sit on beers and age them sucks quite frankly so the few aged ones I've had were purchased already with age on them. Cheers!
     
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