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Barrel Aged Bigfoot

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SeanFitzgerald, Feb 23, 2012.

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  1. woosterbill

    woosterbill Poo-Bah (2,616) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    Thanks for the insight - sounds likely to me, although I don't see why they couldn't have a separately-priced line of "premium" sixpacks separate from the Ruthless/Summerfest/Celebration/etc seasonals. Regardless, I hope they don't raise the price per case/bottle just because they're switching to a different # of bottles per pack.
  2. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Aspirant (293) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon
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    Probably because there's a strange "price ceiling" effect that happens in the minds of most consumers once you crack the $10 price point. For some reason, people seem to be alright with spending $10 on a 4pk of big beer, but there's a resistance that sets in when they see a $15 six pack, even though it works out to be the same amount per bottle. You can see a perfect example of this phenomenon if you look at the "Bigfoot price check" thread on Ratebeer where a few people are threatening to boycott the beer because it went up to $14/6pk in their market, despite the fact that it's still an awesome price for a such a beefy beer.

    A similar thing happens with bottle sizes. Many people will scoff at $2.79 for a 12oz bottle of Green Flash West Coast IPA, but if you offered them the same beer at $5.99 for a bomber they'd be happy to buy it, despite the fact that it costs more per ounce in that format.

    tl;dr: people are weirdly sensitive to different price points.
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  3. woosterbill

    woosterbill Poo-Bah (2,616) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    Again, I agree with what you're saying, and I would have no problem seeing Bigfoot move to a 4-pack (I would still buy it by the case:wink:), but it's been a disturbing trend lately (you mention the most notorious culprit yourself, Green Flash WCIPA) to see a beer move from 6-pack to 4-pack while keeping precisely the same price. Right now Bigfoot seems to be around $12-14 per 6-pack, so I hope that it would be $8-9 as a 4-pack. If that's the case, more power to them. I think it would be great to see SN have their 6-pack lineup and 4-pack lineup priced identically - i.e., $8/6 SNPA, $8/4 Bigfoot. I don't think anyone would complain about this. I worry, though, that we'll go from this year's $13 Bigfoot sixer directly to next year's $13 Bigfoot fourpack.
  4. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Aspirant (293) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon
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    I suspect that this is exactly what we'll see, much like Widmer pricing their 4pk series (Pitch Black, Nelson, etc) so they hit the shelves at the same price as their main line 6pks.

    That's definitely a concern, but I have a feeling they are well aware of the outpouring of complaints they'd receive if they did that. Hopefully someone at SN has read a few of those "WTF Green FLASH prices!!!" posts that have popped up here.
  5. siege06nd

    siege06nd Savant (924) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    Oh man am I glad to see this...
  6. ChadQuest

    ChadQuest Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2009 Illinois

    I like them a lot also. I own the domain "iheartbarleywines.com". not activated yet, but in my name. I should get around to that sometime.
  7. wcintula

    wcintula Initiate (0) May 2, 2010 New York

    Are you at liberty to say whose barrels? I'm not picky, just curious.
  8. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Yeah, I've definitely noticed this bias (even in myself). For example, I won't bat an eye spending $10 on a 750ml of something really nice. Translate that into around $20 for a four-pack for the same thing, and I'll find myself wanting to pass. Weird!
  9. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Disciple (339) Nov 18, 2009 Michigan
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    I wouldnt pay 11$ for a 4 pack of bigfoot. Its a good beer that i buy by the case but the price has allot to do with that.
  10. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    I love that video on how they make Big foot, just bought a case of it. The Regular BF that is.
  11. Sonofalime

    Sonofalime Aspirant (294) Oct 11, 2010 Virginia
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    ummmm ISO BA Bigfoot. One of my all time favorite beers and since they are releasing a BA version. Count me in.
  12. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Crusader (772) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
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    How many 750's are there ia a Bbl.?
  13. ewright

    ewright Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2007 North Carolina

    "We have about 100Bbl's (just over 1000 cases worth)."

    Typically, that would be 12 bottles/case, so a total of 12k bottles, give or take.
  14. WassailWilly

    WassailWilly Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2007 New York

    I emailed S.N. years back and asked when they would produce a corked and caged version of Bigfoot .
    Guess the time is NOW !!!
    Hopefully Celebration is next !!
  15. iflah45

    iflah45 Aspirant (214) Jul 8, 2010 Massachusetts
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    any more news on this? release date?
  16. Heatwave33

    Heatwave33 Devotee (456) Sep 13, 2011 Florida
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    Bigfoot is my favorite barleywine! So I'm definitely looking forward to bourbon BA version.
  17. jchoffman

    jchoffman Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Georgia

    I'm really looking forward to this! Love Bigfoot!
  18. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,235) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yup, very excited about this since I'm a huge fan of Bigfoot. It will be interesting to see who gets what in terms of distro.
  19. trbergman

    trbergman Defender (670) Nov 17, 2006 England

    See also: Matilda, Rayon Vert
  20. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Disciple (353) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Check beernews.org
    BA Bigfoot is delayed untill next year
  21. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poo-Bah (4,885) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    WOO-HOO!!! I'll be watching for this one! (love the regular Bigfoot)
  22. elgiacomo

    elgiacomo Meyvn (1,149) Jun 28, 2007 Georgia

    Sad news. :slight_frown:
  23. mikehblack

    mikehblack Initiate (117) Feb 10, 2010 California
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    So now that it's being delayed even further, what would SN do with the beer? Do they let it continue to sit in the barrel or do they bottle it? If it isn't ready for the volume they want, won't the final product be a blend of different ages of Bigfoot? Seems like it would be frustrating for a brewery to hold onto it, especially running at max capacity like SN.
  24. Knotsoevol

    Knotsoevol Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2004 Connecticut


    Sierra Nevada’s Ovila Dubbel 4-pks arrive, Barrel-Aged Bigfoot delayed until next year

    Just confirmed with Sierra Nevada Product Development Manager, Bill Manley…
    The beer simply isn’t ready in the volumes we need to go to market this year. It’s been bumped from our release calendar until next year, which we realized was the 30th anniversary of Bigfoot. As for the Ovila Dubbel 4-pack…It started shipping about three weeks ago and should be making its way into the market as we speak.​
  25. BillManley

    BillManley Aspirant (245) Jul 2, 2008 California

    Sadly this is true, we're going to have to push back the release until 2013. Sorry for the sad news, but barrel-aged beer take on a life of their own. They tell US when they're ready.

  26. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,719) Nov 16, 2009 California
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    I have so many emotions right now.
    Makes me sad......

  27. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    Was it delayed because of volume issues, or QC? I'm hoping it might show up at The Bistro (or something) like the BA Fritz and Ken's.
  28. BillManley

    BillManley Aspirant (245) Jul 2, 2008 California

    Not QC, (infection) but flavor development... We used some single-malt Scotch barrels which we thought would add better character but ended up tasting pretty flat... we're being pretty picky about flavor profiles from each barrel so we dumped some, salvaged others, and were coming up-short from a volume point of view. We purchased a boatload of new (used) barrels and will be saving what we can and aging some new-make for a final blend to release in 2013. Coincidentally, it is also the 30 year anniversary of Bigfoot the beer, so it's working out better for a debut then anyway.

    As for some limited release... We actually ave quite a few draught-only barrel-aged beers that will be popping-up over the next year or so. Vic from the Bistro is typically pretty good about gleaning some of the good stuff!

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  29. jchoffman

    jchoffman Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Georgia

    Where is that unlike button when you need it.
  30. fartmaster

    fartmaster Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2011 California

    people are upset about this? im glad to wait for this if flavor profiles are off. thanks bill.
  31. sunkistxsudafed

    sunkistxsudafed Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2010 New Mexico

    so some of the beer in the final blend will be over a year old... I'm ok with this.
  32. slangtruth

    slangtruth Initiate (199) Jan 8, 2012 Massachusetts

    Getting straight talk direct from the source on this forum is something I remember when I pull Yet Another pack of SN off the shelf. Thanks!
  33. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,199) Mar 18, 2010 California

    I would rather wait myself...
  34. shand

    shand Meyvn (1,419) Jul 13, 2010 Florida
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    What's not to like about a brewery that makes sure they're putting great products on the shelf over a brewery that knowingly sells a mediocre barrel-aged product just because they invested so much time and money into it?

    I'll wait as long as it takes as long as a great product is released.
  35. jchoffman

    jchoffman Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Georgia

    I didn't say I wouldn't rather wait, and I did read the article, I was just wishing they would of had enough for a excellent batch.. I would rather wait than get a mediocre batch of any beer..
  36. Keffa

    Keffa Defender (634) Jan 8, 2009 Ohio
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    Lemme guess, you liked -bal barleywines before they were cool?
  37. ChadQuest

    ChadQuest Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2009 Illinois

    Did you hear about the hipster who burned his mouth with pizza?
    He ate it before it was cool.
  38. Keffa

    Keffa Defender (634) Jan 8, 2009 Ohio
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  39. oldp0rt

    oldp0rt Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2011 Quebec (Canada)

  40. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,483) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    A BA Bigfoot? Yea buddy.
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