Barrel aging ever a detraction?

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  1. PaulyB83

    PaulyB83 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 Michigan

    Curious if anyone has ever been drinking a barrel aged beer and thought, "Gee, there is a great beer underneath all this heavy oak and alcohol." I'll go first, I know I'm in the minority here, but I loved the tart cherry and subtle spice of Boulevard's BBQ but I found the bourbon kept getting in the way and I kept thinking how great a non-barrel aged version would probably be. Thoughts?
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  2. kevanb

    kevanb Pooh-Bah (2,427) Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
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    Couldn't agree more on BBQ, probably why I drink The Sixth Glass a lot more often! But yes, certain beers are quite good and the barrel aged variant just doesn't deliver, you aren't alone.
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  3. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,083) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I like regular Stout Trooper better than BA version.
  4. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    I like standard yeti over oak yeti
  5. SLOCruzin

    SLOCruzin Zealot (568) Sep 30, 2013 California

    Pannepot over Pannepot Reserva
  6. draheim

    draheim Grand Pooh-Bah (3,979) Sep 18, 2010 Washington

    Could be wrong, but I believe Oak Yeti is just aged on oak chips, not in oak barrels (let alone bourbon barrels)...

    But yeah, I prefer bourbon barrel aged beers with just a hint of the bourbon (or whatever the barrel previously contained)... more is not always better.
  7. imperialbeerdude

    imperialbeerdude Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Colorado

    southern charred was pretty good, I like regular biscotti break more than bourbon, regular huna more than brandy, regular merlin more than merkin
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  8. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    O yea i guess they don't do it in oak barrels.

    ...It'd be a lot cooler if they diiid.
  9. draheim

    draheim Grand Pooh-Bah (3,979) Sep 18, 2010 Washington

    What, this? You're right, it is a lot cooler.
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  10. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    yea there's that one but i've never tried it. I was thinking it would be cooler to do it in an a fresh oak barrel that hasn't seen any spirits yet.
  11. poobaca

    poobaca Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2013 New York

    I thought double trouble was a hell of a lot better then doom.
  12. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I think Founders Imperial Stout is the best beer Founders brews.
  13. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    I personally prefer bourbon barrel aged brews to have vanilla and caramel flavors and aromas than to feel like bourbon flavors dominate. I also enjoy a "chewy" mouthfeel to bourbon barrel aged beers than a big amount of heat. So, to answer the question, yes I do from time to time.

    I've never had a beer aged in a wine barrel or a rum barrel I've not liked, but I could count those on one hand.
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  14. plumcrazyfx

    plumcrazyfx Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2010 Minnesota

    Can't agree with BBQ; one of my favorites.

    My suggestion is Hibernation Ale. The barrel aged version was a chore to finish.
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  15. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    Had my first Rum Barrel Aged beer (Clown Shoes Hammer of the Holy) and it was excellent. The BA'ing aspect of that one wasn't too overpowering.
  16. Torch_Lake

    Torch_Lake Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2013 Ohio

    I don't know about better, per se, but I think Breakfast Stout is every bit the equal of KBS.

    (and yes, I know that KBS is technically a different base beer)
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  17. vthippie

    vthippie Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2012 Vermont

    Rock Art Vermonster is better than the BBA version, neither are world-class beers but the BBA tasted like straight booze added, no barrel character to speak of, and it cost twice as much as the regular version.
  18. MenardMa

    MenardMa Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2011 Connecticut

    Did you try the most recent BA version of Trooper released last saturday? It's deeee-rishiss. I had both IST and BA IST on chrismas side by side and the BA version was honestly better...right up there with KBS IMO. They nailed it this time.

    BUT, i've never had the past batches which I have ready mediocre things about.
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  19. MenardMa

    MenardMa Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2011 Connecticut

    If anyone says they prefer regular Allagash Tripel to Curieux, instant ban please.

    I mean, it's goot and all....but...NO.
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  20. BMMillsy

    BMMillsy Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Florida

    Every single barrel aged IIPA.

    Also think DORIS is better than BA DORIS. Both were good though.

    Found Hunahpu to be leaps and bounds better than Cali Brandy Hunahpu.

    Good Gourd Almighty was an abomination relative to its Good Gourd base.

    Terrapin Moo Hoo is a good brew, but was too thin for bourbon aging...they did it anyway.

    Bomb! is preferred by me to Pirate Bomb!

    There might be others but these stick out to me.
  21. Harnkus

    Harnkus Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 New York

    I think bourbon barrels and beer don't play as nicely as the trend would suggest. At least IMO. I just don't think they compliment one another, bar a few greats.
  22. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,083) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Have not but sure would love to!
  23. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,424) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey

    Kane Overhead is way tastier than the bourbon barrel aged version.
  24. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina

    BA Old Ruffian was my first drain poor of 2103--could not get anyone to drink it. Old Ruffian is decent.

    I will catch crap (and I love Founders) but the IPA they put in the barrel for Doom would have been better to me than what came out of the barrel. A boozy, hot mess.
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  25. rightcoast7

    rightcoast7 Maven (1,282) Apr 2, 2011 Maine

    Totally agree on BA Good Gourd. Amazing base beer but the barreled result was just too sweet IMO. Haven't had BA DORIS, but thought regular BORIS was better than the BA version as well. I didn't get the Cali Hunahpu but I heard it was not the best treatment. Some of the other BA Hunas were amazing.
  26. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,087) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    Sometimes, just sometimes, I like my beer to taste like beer.
  27. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida

    Honestly, I'm struggling to find a BA beer I actually prefer over the regular. BORIS, maybe. Not sure what else. Especially for stouts, I much prefer a regular stout to a BA one. So in a way, for me, it's usually a detraction.
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  28. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    I found the price of some Barrel Aging to be more of a detraction than anything else.
  29. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,219) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    I was better before I aged...just saying.
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  30. lpotter

    lpotter Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I think I'm in the minority, but I much preferred Grande Negro Voodoo Papi sans barrel treatment.
  31. facesnorth

    facesnorth Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Same here. I drank 2 64oz growlers of IST over the past week, and it was delicious. But when I cracked that 32oz of BA IST, wow it was incredible. And I'd heard the same thing that the regular is better. Having not had previous versions, I can't comment on that. But myself and the others with me all felt the BA was a step above.

    Thanks again, Jared!
  32. mntlover

    mntlover Pooh-Bah (1,978) Jun 30, 2003 Tennessee

    Yes, I am weird but I prefer my Breakfast Stout plain.
  33. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    I like barrel aged beers, provided they're done right. With barrel aging being the hot trend I think we're seeing a lot of poorly done beers, just for the sake of barrel aging something and throwing that on your brewery's resume. That said, I wish every barrel aged beer had a non-BA counterpart available for purchase. That way you can get a good feel for the base beer and the differences added by the barrel will jump out at you. I love Parabola and Sucaba, but man I'd love to buy a 4 pack of the base beer.
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  34. MenardMa

    MenardMa Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2011 Connecticut

    Glad to see that someone else agrees. Wish I grabbed another BA one because that was a top 5 stout for me. Really, really good!
  35. Scotchboy

    Scotchboy Pooh-Bah (2,684) Dec 7, 2010 Idaho
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    Victory Storm King vs. Dark Intrigue immediately comes to mind for me.
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  36. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina

    I love Bourbon so it works for me, I found out I don't really like regular RIS's. Not really keen on heavy oak as well, wines follow for me here too, I like fruity dry reds, but not the heavy oak of a Cabernet.
  37. facesnorth

    facesnorth Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    If you're speaking about last weekend, it was a 1 per person limit, and only the first 20 or so people got one before it kicked. Unless you had someone with you that could have gotten theirs, but declined.
  38. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina

    Bourbons are different in and by themselves too, some are sweet, some have vanilla tones, some are rough. IMO Makers Mark is too sweet, Buffalo Trace can be a bit rough, Knob Creek is tremendous, Rare Breed is tremendous. barrels can make a difference as well with what notes are hit, and how hot they are.
  39. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,904) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Please don't do any more barrel-aged dobble bocks, the few I tried were horrid. In general most low-mid level abv beers don't make me happy either.
  40. Marti403

    Marti403 Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2011 Michigan

    Yah, Black Note is way better than Bourbon Barrel Black Note!
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