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Baudoinia: The next BCS variant

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by foobula, Nov 3, 2012.

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  1. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Guess I'm the first to use the word "Baudoinia" in the BA forums (read all about it here.)

    John Laffler (Goose Island's Barrelmaster/brewer extraordinaire) posted a photo via twitter that this beer was kegged yesterday. He later explained that it's BCS made exclusively using barrels from the bottom rack at Heaven Hill. Baudoinia is the name of a fungus found on barrels. (First beer named for a fungus?) From the looks of the keg label, this beer will be in the Fulton & Wood series, meaning that it is draft-only, Chicagoland-only.

    So how long is this likely to last once it's tapped? 1 hour? And does the bottom level of barrels have some special quality that the rows above it don't?

  2. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Apr 13, 2010 Texas

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  3. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Ok houston guy, thanks for interjecting your nap into the Great Lakes forum
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  4. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    Just doing my part. Some times What's New tab takes me to the craziest places! :D
  5. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    What's New tab, I never noticed that before! I always click "home" and look at the list there.

    But I digress...
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  6. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    I believe you get more evaporation on the bottom row, so this is like concentrated BCBS I believe. Lets hope we see this @ FOBAB
  7. DrAwkward82

    DrAwkward82 Apr 16, 2005 California

    Hope to see this at FOBAB. I wish they had named it 'The Bottom of the Barrel.'
  8. moefriedman

    moefriedman Feb 15, 2012 Illinois
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    Should've named it "Subservient Bottom"
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  9. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    There's nothing subservient about BCBS. POWER bottom, 100%.
  10. drewba

    drewba Nov 14, 2009 Illinois

    Before this thread, about 4 hours. After this thread, 12 minutes ;)
  11. HighWine

    HighWine Dec 11, 2010 Illinois
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    The only difference about the bottom barrels in a rack house is that they are easier found and require less work to get ahold of. Thus, the name of this beer should be "BCS Paradox".

    (Seriously, though, Heaven Hill and other distilleries rotate their barrels so there is really no difference between top, middle, or bottom racks.)
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  12. Mothergoose03

    Mothergoose03 May 30, 2005 Michigan

    Which begs the question, why do they rotate?
  13. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    Within the storage warehouse, temperature changes often affect barrels stored on the top story making them age more quickly, so some distillers rotate the barrels so they all mature at the same pace.
  14. Etan

    Etan Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    It seems like the difference has to do with the fungus (baudoinia), because Laffler tweeted that this is from barrels that were covered in it. How does this affect the beer?
  15. Etan

    Etan Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    If that were the case, they would have named the beer Tripping -Bals.
  16. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    EDIT: GI confirmed via twitter that this is the same as the Low Storage BCS from this year's FOBAB, and was my favorite of the 4 samples
  17. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    I don't think so, this is aged in special fungus covered barrels. I didn't see any fungus on the FOBAB low barrel...
  18. burica2020

    burica2020 Nov 17, 2009 Illinois

    I think it's safe too assume they are in fact two in the same considering low barrels have/had this fungus. My guess is they didn't call it beu-blah blah because it wasn't officially released via Fulton and wood yet and everything else had a specific name at fobab. It would been weird to have buffalo trace, wine, apple brandy and beudwaaa and then have to explain that's the name for a low barrel with fungus
  19. Lansman

    Lansman Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    I spoke with Brett at the Whole Foods event the day before FoBAB and he remarked that this was a special version of BCBS that he developed for the Fulton & Wood Series that was his personal favorite. He then remarked that my group and I really need to seek it out because once it is released, it won't see the light of day again. He did not give me the impression that this was the same variant as the FoBAB release, which I believe was left lacking by virtue of being compared with the Apple Brandy and Pinot Noir BCBS variants in a side-by-side comparison.
  20. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    If you started with it, it really was quite delicious. Rich, flavorful, and not boozy (comparatively) as Brett described in the video. My mistake might have been trying Apple Brandy BCS last; I believe the wine barrel BCS really overpowered the others.

    Here is where GI confirms that Baudoinia is Low Storage from FoBAB. http://twitter.com/GooseIsland/status/275647063650340865
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  21. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    Thanks for the clarification. I didn't think low barrel was any different from regular BCBS but that was also after fifteen or so palate-destroying beers and intoxicaton, will have to try it on it's own to get a good perspective.
  22. burica2020

    burica2020 Nov 17, 2009 Illinois

    I had it as my like second beer and I must say I thought it was amazing. It has a weird smoky, earthy funk that mellows it out and made it wonderful. I just wish I didnt write the last two sentences because now I'll have to fight my way to get a pint at clybourn or somewhere else they tap it.
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  23. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    I called it, I figured the low barrel version from FoBAB was this beer. Awesome, my favorite of the four for sure...
  24. danimalarkey

    danimalarkey Mar 3, 2008 Illinois

    Oddly enough, our friend from DeKalb has been silent about all this BCS goodness staying in Chicago.

    I really enjoyed the 'low fill' variant at FoBAB. Much more rounded or smoother than regular BCS. Looking forward to having a glass or two on its own.

    ETA - Spoke to soon. The facebook post has come to his attention.
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  25. Lansman

    Lansman Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    I thought we had two friends out that way?
  26. CityofBals

    CityofBals Sep 12, 2012 Illinois

    I enjoyed the Apple Brandy barrel treatment more than this treatment, but this was the second best IMO. Really mellow, would be curious to see it with some age (I imagine way more molasses than usual).
  27. Treebs

    Treebs Apr 18, 2011 Illinois

    Probably on timeout.
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  28. Lansman

    Lansman Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    Right on Playa.
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  29. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

  30. Treebs

    Treebs Apr 18, 2011 Illinois

    Playa gonna Play
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  31. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Isn't that what BA is all about? Speculation run rampant? Lol. To be fair I invited speculation with a question in my post, which I subsequently edited out when I answered it. :)
  32. stupac2

    stupac2 Feb 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    There are approximately 10 million beers named after Brett.
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  33. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Yeast is a fungus... mind seriously blown!
  34. DarkMagneto

    DarkMagneto Apr 17, 2007 Illinois
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    Just watched that video. Good grief! They need to keep that guy off the camera and just on the brew kettle. I felt bad for him watching that video.
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  35. stevegoz

    stevegoz May 5, 2008 Illinois
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    I wouldn't hire him to do a commercial, but he got the info through on a video that will get a couple thousand views. If he's boring you, there's probably a funny cat video just a click or two away.
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  36. JmH

    JmH Jun 6, 2012 Illinois

    seriously? maybe not the best public speaker, but I wouldn't go that far

    on to the subject at hand -- anyone have any ideas as to when this will be hitting area bars? or will this be for special events only?
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  37. DarkMagneto

    DarkMagneto Apr 17, 2007 Illinois
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    Cat videos.....got it.

    I'm fine with the content of the video, the information was delivered. I just had a hard time watching that video of him closing his eyes while talking. All the other Fulton & Wood videos were very well done.

    Just my opinion.
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  38. danimalarkey

    danimalarkey Mar 3, 2008 Illinois

    Per the announcement on facebook:

    Assuming this is similar to other F&W releases in terms of quantity (which is, yes, quite the assumption and probably not the case, now that I think about it), it should be spread fairly wide across the city. But given it's a BCS variant (toss another presto log into the Hype Train), it will probably not last nearly as long as other F&W releases.
  39. zieglemt

    zieglemt Apr 25, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Yeah, should be landing at the usual suspects next week. I know I've seen the other ones at Small Bar and Map Room, think I've also seen one at Revolution and maybe the Gingerman. I don't know if this will be as widespread, nor do I know if bars will just tap them like the other beers or if they will make events out of it since this is a BCBS variant.
  40. foobula

    foobula Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Apparently Laffler was unavailable for the video of the beer with his name on it too. Maybe he called in sick that day... ;-)
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