Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by mikeincharleston, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. mikeincharleston

    mikeincharleston Defender (643) May 1, 2009 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    What kind of stuff does it go for? They go for about $10 a bottle right? Does it take more than some local hard to finds or would this be a brewery only type thing?
  2. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    $8 a bottle, plus tax and deposit, brewery only. I would expect what someone would trade would depend on if they bought it as a trade item, and when you try and trade. I think they might have some left now, but once it's gone people will probably value it higher. I wouldn't trade mine, it's my favorite beer.
  3. jacob4999

    jacob4999 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2008 Michigan

    With how scarce it seems this year I'd imagine the markets went up a bit. But in years past I've traded it for BBPT5, BA Blackout, Brewery only Cigar City stuff....I guess I'd say maybe something brewery only and barreled. But it depends on what they're looking for. But if you do trade for it it's worth every penny you give up. Amazing beer.
  4. Crookdrain

    Crookdrain Aspirant (286) Jan 13, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    I traded 2 Westys for a BB4D, Black Note, and a bottle of Hopslam.
  5. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    They are not brewery only fyi
  6. WagonCircler

    WagonCircler Initiate (130) May 15, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    This beer is too good to trade.

    Meaning It tastes way better than what it trades for.
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  7. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    I have not seen one Kuhnhenn bottle in store, ever. Are you thinking kegs?
  8. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    Nope but I wish I found a keg of BB4D. Ive seen a few different Kunhnhenn bottles around shops; most definitely the BB4D as I have bought and drank many myself. I am in NYC for reference, far from Michigan.
  9. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    They do go for 7.99 or 8.99 plus tax/deposit still though.
  10. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    Thanks! Now I know. Never have seen it in the Detroit area except at Kuhnhenn. Did you get it this year?
  11. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    As in 2013? No... but I haven't gone to the store that usually carries them. I think I last got some in early December 2012, which reminds me I need to go get some. If they do have some whenever I go, I will let OP know.
  12. camil1mj

    camil1mj Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2010 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    Was it the 2012? I know they distributed it in MI and NY in 2010, but I didn't think they did distribute any of it in 2011 or 2012.
  13. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    The bottle that I still have kept around all this time is the 2011 BB4D version. Figure that some of the more recent ones I purchased are the 2012 version.
  14. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    I think the last batch was a Winter Solstice release, so late December.
  15. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    Would you think that that would be marked as 2012 or 2013 on the bottle?
  16. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    I'll go check, I bought a case.

    eta 2012
  17. chrisbokmuller

    chrisbokmuller Aspirant (234) Sep 11, 2011 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    It says 2012 on the bottle, small amount released at the solstice, and the more bottled after. I think it ran out around the 90th person at solstice.
  18. sobeleg

    sobeleg Disciple (386) Jun 29, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    BB4D does not come to NYC, only the regular 4D. The only difference in the bottle would be that BB4D has gold foil over the cap.

    See this thread for more info:
  19. BeerWorld

    BeerWorld Aspirant (273) Feb 20, 2008 New York
    Beer Trader

    Ever since early 2011 we have been officially receiving limited Kuhnhenn bottle distribution once or twice per year in NYC. NYC is only one of 1-3 places that gets Kuhnhenn bottles distribution thanks to SKI. We also get limited Kuhnhenn kegs throughout the year as well. Don't know if we'll get any of 2012 Winter Solstice bottles but I'm hoping we will.
  20. camil1mj

    camil1mj Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2010 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    Something else to note: to say it hits distro in NY "far from MI" seems to hint that Kuhnhenn gets wide distribution which is misleading. Kuhnhenn sees very minimal distro in MI and NY. That is it. And minimal is an understatement.
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  21. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,089) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    The 2010 BB4D for sure was for sale here in New York. Amazingly it was for sale at 1 4-pak per customer at DeCicco's for almost 3 weeks. I can remember trying to talk Alex into selling me a 2nd, and then a 3rd 4-pak (miss you Alex). Last year's reg 4D, and Prometheus, are both still for sale here. 4D also is fucking delicious, just a step less so than its big brother, but the price here, 8.99, is high.
  22. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Initiate (154) Jun 7, 2005 New York


    Oddly, though, Kuhnhenn is actually more visible from an on-tap perspective in NYC than in bottles. It's really not all that uncommon to see their beers at several bars and growler fill stores at any given time (Though, typically just the usual suspects. Never anything too crazy).

    The only vintage of BB4D that ever made it to NY was the 2010 batch that arrived in early 2011. The only other 4D that we've received since was just the regular 2011 4D (i.e. un-barrel-aged) vintage which is still available at many locations. You can check the year on the back label. It's listed right at the top.

    Also, a good indicator is that the 2010 BB4D vintage had a sticker on the neck of the bottle denoting it as BB4D whereas every vintage beyond that has had the BB4D "designator" on the label itself (it's a little gold oval). It might also have gold foil over the cap if it's a 2010.

    You don't have a 2012 unless you either bought it at the Winter Solstice yourself or received it in a trade via someone who did.
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  23. dblab33

    dblab33 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan

    and for what it's worth.... first BB4D release at 2012 Solstice had the little oval on the label denoting barrel aged but did NOT have gold foil over the cap. Subsequent releases have had the barrel aged oval as well as gold foil on the cap.
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  24. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    To further complicate, the foil does come off very easily and can fall off in the case.
  25. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    Deccico's is where I had gotten them in the past. Alex was a great beer dude, it was sad that he left. So I believe I am in the wrong here as I hadn't known that the true BB4D has a golden oval sticker, with that being the only distinction between the normal 4D bottle and the BB4D bottle. Thank you for education me on this, this whole time I believed I was drinking the BB4D- having said that, the normal 4D is god damn delicious, I can only imagine how good the BB4D is now.
  26. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Aspirant (238) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    It is but the bb4d is a whole nother animal...
  27. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    Also thank you Knifestyle's, your post was just as educational. You would think they would make some more of a distinction between the 4D and BB4D in regards to bottle differential. However, on the bottle of these 4D's I have gotten, they state (and I quote) "4th D is aged for a minimum of nine months before being released". I now presume this aging they state is just normal aging in whatever vessel it was held in.
  28. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2011 New York

    Now I am ISO BB4D cause damn reg 4D is comparable to KH IMO.
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  29. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Initiate (154) Jun 7, 2005 New York

    Moral of the story: the only thing that you can ever be certain of when it comes to Kuhnhenn is that you can never be certain of anything when it comes to Kuhnhenn.

    That's like 99% of their charm.
  30. Devi0us

    Devi0us Initiate (0) May 3, 2011 California

    I have a trade in the works and I'm giving up a King Henry and a 2011 Abacus for 2 4-Packs of BB4D...I'm even throwing in a few bottles of Pliny as extras just for shits n' giggles...both parties seem happy with the trade...

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  31. TheMonk41

    TheMonk41 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    If it falls through let me know! I have some other Kuhnhenn stuff that may interest you :)
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