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Beat still at RR

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by oreo, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    Beat is still available at RR. Stop asking the world for what is, in theory, a shelf beer.


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  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    So even though it is still available, how is asking for something not distributed in your state bad?

    I am asking honestly.
  3. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    It's not. I would have no problem sending 90 dollars worth of good FFF/Founders/Half Acre for 90 dollars worth of beat. I am not going to trade a one off brewery only release with 700 bottles for 1 bottle of beat though. Have you seen some of these ISO's though? Its pretty insane. It is nearly impossible to get more than 3 for any one beer.
  4. Duffman929

    Duffman929 Aspirant (279) Nov 27, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I heard that Cantillon is selling to a trader that has a case of Beat.
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  5. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon

    Oh, this brings back the good old days of the "DDG is still for sale" thread.
  6. stupac2

    stupac2 Disciple (387) Feb 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    King Henry was actually on shelves and that didn't stop anyone from asking the world for it.

    Also, and perhaps more importantly, the cat is out of the bag, every new release will have this happening. There's not really any stopping it, but reasonable people can still do reasonable trades with each other.
  7. rgco

    rgco Initiate (26) Apr 2, 2012 California

    Most beer is shelf beer. I saw a shelf Fou Foune a few months ago.
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  8. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Scanning the first two pages of ISO:FT at the moment... I see almost all Beat ISO's. The only FT's I see are looking for locals, a reasonable limited release, easy limited releases with high bottle counts, or generously giving one away.

    I'm sure there have been a few crazy FT's, as there are with every beer, but this doesn't seem to be trading unreasonably at all. In fact, it seems much easier to land Beat than CBS or King Henry.
  9. futura123

    futura123 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    Yeah, I don't see any thing crazy. There is an offer Cantillon 50N40E + Cantillon St Lam 2004 + Cantillon Gueuze for 6 Beat and seem like it's not done yet. There were some Rare, Chocolate Rain, Black Note, King Henry.... for Beat get done so the trade value of Beat is on pair with any other limited release.

    Seem like the OP only wants Beat owner to ask for shelf beer.
  10. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    black note was available for a few days at bell's. it didn't stop you from asking for bt09 or beatification batch 3 or deviation for it. other beers in those offers include literal shelf beers like bcbcs, lolita, bramble, juliet, ba yeti...

  11. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    In before 'clever girl'.
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  12. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Meyvn (1,165) Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    While I somewhat agree with your sentiment, I'd say this batch of beat should be on par with BCBS versions and King Henry; silimar volumes and price. Believe me, I wish GI would've made it as easy as showing up one weekend and buying 6.
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  13. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    my point is that it is, if you've been paying attention to what people are asking for them.
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  14. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    While combining other beers with it. Its not like I was asking for it straight up. I do appreciate you bringing up my old threads though, maybe someone will actually see it this time <3

    To your point about them being shelf beers, yes I see that. Although its not like we could just go to the brewery at any time and buy 6 straight up. If that were the case, they would have a wee bit less value don't you think?
  15. mikecharley

    mikecharley Disciple (399) Nov 6, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Darkness is not that rare!!!
    Err... I mean
    Duck Duck Gooze is not that rare!!!
    Oops... sorry, what I really meant was:

  16. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    a lot of you sound a wee bit too serious. It's just beer, guys. No one's making you empty your cellar for it- unless you count that nagging voice in the back of your head.
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  17. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

  18. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    ordinarily, yes. however, i think people like you (and i apologize for singling you out, but you did start the thread) have made your bed; now you have to lie in it. in total honesty, i know people that think many of these large-batch midwest ghost wales were artificially scarce (people buying a ton to sit on until the value rises), and it's no surprise that the response is to do the same with beatification.

    i'm not saying beatification should trade for wales like crianza or don quijote. i'm saying it should trade for wales like king henry, bcbcs, bcbvs, rare, cbs, cbh, bramble...

    also, as for driving to the brewery anytime: a lot of people i met in line were out-of-towners (out of state or far end of the state). you're at the mercy of sf bay area traders, and asking them to drive 1-2 hours each way every day to pick up bottles for you is a bit silly. certainly no one did it for them with black note...
  19. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    Point taken. I did shoot high for those threads. I hoped for a long shot and did not get it. No biggie.

    You don't apologize for singling me out, come on, you love trolling me ;)
  20. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Rarity doesn't apply to me. Velvet ropes do nothing to stop me. I'M getting as much beatification as possible- YOU guys need to chill out.
  21. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    Like others have said, i do not see the ridiculous request from Beat owners, I do see a lot of offers from people asking for Beat. If what is being offered is higher than what you think Beat should be valued at I am sorry but I do not know what you want done, that is the going "rate" driven by demand, not supply.

    Have you posted an ISO for Beat aside from the April Fools one?
  22. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    one thing i'd like to add since we're on the subject: the limit of 6 seems to have been well enforced (for the most part). a friend of mine is sending his 4 trading partners a bottle apiece, and he's worried all of them are going to be unhappy with it. what is it about the six bottle limit that is making people request 4-6 at a time? with multiple partners, you're looking at hundreds of dollars dropped at once just to keep everyone happy. what's wrong with 1?
  23. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    Because then I wont have the ability to drink one every week for the rest of my life.
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  24. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    No. I am getting beat from a trading partner of mine for a crapton of good beer on my end. I refuse to trade with people who value it so high. Wait a few weeks, months maybe, and it will even itself out. Hopefully.
  25. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    The recent fad in trading seems to be to maximize every possible transaction. People see that the limit is 6, and they want 6, dammit!
  26. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon

    How else are you going to hold onto a couple until it becomes a big time whale?
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  27. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,443) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    Be like me and just trade for good beer to stare at it :D I'm only half joking.
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  28. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    You are full joking.
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  29. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,443) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    I knew you'd like that comment, haha.
  30. black13

    black13 Disciple (303) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon
    Beer Trader

    Come on people, beer is for cellaring not drinking. You only need one bottle to do this :D
  31. slaphappysnark

    slaphappysnark Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2011 California

    What kinds of things are people asking for that you think is over the top? I am genuinely curious--your thread and some other posts with similar sentiments have led me to check out the ISO:FT forum more than usual, and I have seen plenty of generous offers looking for Beat, but the offers to trade Beat have not seemed insane (or have been quite generous, particularly Leschkie's offers, including his latest to make a 3-4 hour round trip to be a mule for someone).
  32. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    The offers for beat are very generous. They are not getting done is my issue. I know a few people who have made very good offers only to get shut out or asked to give more.
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  33. stupac2

    stupac2 Disciple (387) Feb 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    And? This release has had absolutely insane demand, I've gotten PMs from at least 3 random people plus about 5 previous trading partners. Pretty much everyone I know is sending most of what they've gotten to previous partners as well. So people aren't answering generous ISOs because they're already tapped out. I completely fail to see why this is an issue.
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  34. hannydawg

    hannydawg Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2010 Illinois

    Recent releases have shown me that having quality trading partners is essential. I thought I had 2 pretrades set up for Beatification, only to have both people back out. I then contacted a trading partner, and he hooked me up. Going forward, this scene is only going to get worse, so lock in your trading partners now.
  35. ama

    ama Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2011 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    Yes, I had a trade for my Funky Buddah Raspberry Berliner squared away and someone backed out too. Frustrating...
  36. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    This. Quality trading partners are the best.
  37. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    Beat is still at RR, and my locals are still on the shelf ( I just checked and confirmed!) alas, no deals to be had....
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  38. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    I laughed.
  39. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    i'd love to see you address stupac2 or slaphappysnark's posts directly. you are intentionally ignoring private, reasonable trades, and you are directly ignoring that the public offers are a mirror / consequence of iso's for beers from e.g. your region.

    but sure, it's this release that is the problem.
  40. oreo

    oreo Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois

    If this is the case, then I apologize for overstepping. I just figure this beer is still available for purchase so it should not be that much of an issue to go back and buy some. :)
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