Beer is Expensive

I remember 1.80€ in 2002.

 

Hm but isn't that a "normal" price for KBBS at secondary market? I've been under the assumption that many of these European shops do not get the bottles directly from the breweries/distributors, and are more akin to resellers.

 

Agreed!

Cheers!

 

No doubt that it's ridiculous, though from what I gather it's much rarer to see it in Europe, so I'm not sure if the secondary market prices are directly comparable. But I must admit that I haven't looked too much into it, so I might be wrong.

 

Had that the other day. Was phenomenal

 

Their Apple Brandy barrel aged Barleywine was great too - Sleep Is The Cousin Of Death - Apple Brandy Barrel-Aged | Divine Barrel Brewing

Bought them at your former place of employment.

 

Duvel and Guiness Foreign Extra Stout are both widely available and delicious beers that are reasonably priced ($10-$12 for a 4-pack from what I've seen) for what you are getting. On the hoppy side, Dogfish 90, Bell's Two Hearted and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale are hard to go wrong with.

 

I'm really interested to see where beer prices go in the next 3-12 months. Lots of people concerned about inflation and discretionary spending, but at the same time there are shortages in hops and CO2. Do breweries continue to raise prices based on cost of ingredients/production, only to have a lot of it sit unsold because people realize they shouldn't be spending even more on craft beer?

 

Recently visited a local brewery. Was an hour drive for me but oh well. They recently started canning and I was planning to take home a few packs of their beer. Once they revealed that a 4-pack of 16oz is $16.99, that was it for me! This was just Märzen, Pumpkin, Kölsch, nothing crazy. They told me it is the industry standard now and started to lecture me about craft beer.
I am done with this rip off! I have supported all kinds of breweries all the way through the pandemic, now I am done with it. They can sell their beer to others, not to me anymore! But apparently there are still enough people around with a lot of extra cash to spend. Well, more power to them! I am done with this. These breweries will price themselves out of the market in the long run. And I will applaud when they go under! ---rant over---

 

I would never buy or not buy a beverage of any kind based on any consideration of the ABV, unless I am specifically looking for NA beer

 

What brewery was this? I'd like to know so I can avoid it

 

In an industry where the product ranges from 10c to 10$ per Oz, the idea of an "industry standard" is pretty laughable

 

I have been noticing this also and I wonder how long this is going to last and before these breweries start pricing themselves out of the market.

 

I have been wondering about the elevated pricing of Tired Hands beers for many years. I recall that when people were waiting in line for hour(s) to buy their four packs one brand was priced > $24. I thought 3-4 years ago: how long can these prices last?

Maybe in today's economy when groceries, gas, etc. prices are so high folks might stop paying so much for four-packs of beer?

Cheers!

P.S. I just visited the Tired Hands website and the ‘winner’ is:

“Black Forest Only Void

Our dense and devastating imperial stout. Brewed with malted oats and a profusion of specialty malts. We kicked it up a notch by adding heaps of dense chocolate, dark cherry puree, and fresh bouron vanilla beans. Notes of black forest chocolate cake and dark chocolate covered cherries. 10.0% ABV.

$26”

 

Well, duh!

It's a 10% ABV Imperial Stout with vanilla beans and cherry puree. Vanilla beans (not vanilla extract, which isn't cheap either) are very expensive now and cherries aren't cheap either. It's not a hazy 6-7% ABV IPA, that tastes just like any other hazy. Once again...apples-to-oranges.

 

That seems to be a question about whether someone wants to pay that much for a lager in general. If they are, I doubt they're very worried about if it's 5% or 8%. At least I wouldn't be.

 

That wasn't my point! Did you read my post:

"Maybe in today's economy when groceries, gas, etc. prices are so high folks might stop paying so much for four-packs of beer?"

Good for you that you can fill up your car with gas, buy groceries to feed your family, get your home's tank filled up with heating oil and not worry about paying 26 bucks for four cans of beer.

 

And I think the point of @WCKDVBZ s post was that that price isn't representative of a rise in prices. That's less than 50cents per Oz for a high abv barrel aged stout with expensive flavoring additives. Beers like that have cost that much and more for over a decade. Prairie has been selling beers like that for almost twice that much for as long as I've been aware of them. So citing it as an example of some increase in beer prices doesn't really hold water

 

Cry me a river!

That wasn't your point, but yet you copy and paste the same thing. So, yeah, it is your point!


Sounds like you're angry, because you can't afford certain things. And it bothers you that others can. That's not my fault/problem. Griping over beer prices in every single thread is not a good look.

 

Guys, let’s just remember we’re on a beer forum here.

I know we all are very passionate about our hobby (and the pricing thereof), but perhaps it’s time to have a few beers and relax!!

 

I would noT buy the lager for $8 regardless of what the ABV was because I like other styles better. "Value" is unrelated to ABV unless your goal is to get buzzed.

 

That's just an incredibly rude and disrespectful comment, you should be ashamed of yourself, grow up!

 

Value is very much related to ABV, independent of one's affinity for a buzz. It comes down to rates of consumption. Most people consume low abv beers in higher quantities than high abv beers over time, because high abv beers are richer and heavier, not to mention buzz inducing -- desirable or not. If you're like me and enjoy pilsners and imperial stouts equally, and they're the same price per case, the stout is a better value since it will give me many more evenings of enjoyment.

 

Well clearly, everyone has their own definition of "value" and many here apparently assume that their own personal drinking habits are representative of the majority, and deviations from that are "wrong". Your example may be representative of your drinking habits, i.e., dinking more low ABV beers in one sitting than high ABV beers of the same cost per ounce, but it is not representative of my habits nor of my friends. My definition of value is satisfaction per dollar. ABV does not influence my satisfaction with a beer. Apparently, it does for you and others in this thread. It doesn't mean my personal definition is right or wrong despite attempts by some here to say my definition of value is wrong because I don't consider how much alcohol I am getting per dollar.

 

Your earlier statement, "Value is unrelated to ABV unless your goal is to get buzzed", is false. ABV affects consumption rate, which is part of the value equation. No one spends an entire evening savoring each sip of a single bottle of light lager as it warms, but that's exactly how most people enjoy an imperial stout.

 

We will have to agree to disagree. IMO your statement about satisfaction being related to duration of drinking a single bottle and that duration of drinking is directly related to ABV is another generalization that may apply to you and to some others but not to all. I personally can derive equal satisfaction from a lower ABV beer that I consume in 15 minutes, or from an equally priced stout of higher ABV that takes me an hour. If the cost is the same and the satisfaction level is the same, then the value of both beers is the same to me. Maybe not to you because clearly your values are different. "Satisfaction" and "value" are both totally subjective.

 

If anyone is concerned about their $/Oz of ethanol they may want to leave the beer aisle and head over to that brown water (well, if you really wanna max it look at that clear fire water section)

 

Maybe they prefer beer anyhow, I can kind of understand it. Combining interests...say you try to achieve the buzz I distanced me from, because buzz didn't distance itself from me. How to achieve it with the drink of choice, beer? Buzz+good beer, what is the cost?

But in principle you could take a mouthful of vodka and then sip on a good NA beer, I guess...