Beer Karma Points for Beer and Place Photos Have Been Restored

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Mar 27, 2020.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    Based on recent feedback, I've restored Beer Karma points for those who upload beer and place photos using our archaic system. User stats will update within 24 hours after you've logged in (starting now), points will be fully applied soon after that, and stats appear on user profiles again.

    As a reminder, because I think most of you may have missed this:
    This was one of the main reasons why points were previously disabled. Basically, I can't guarantee that your photos and related points will carryover, so I was preparing everyone for this future update vs. punishing everyone for those who were abusing the system. I could've explained this better, but there was a lot going on at the time.

    Anyway. Enjoy your points (recognition), and thanks to those of you who continue to submit photos. :beers:

    And, as a reminder, please review: How to Upload Beer & Place Photos

    Thanks.
     
  2. cryptichead

    cryptichead Meyvn (1,490) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
    Society Trader

    Sweet! I'm back to 36 points from Poobah status!
     
  3. Giantspace

    Giantspace Crusader (799) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Sounds like more of an Untappd photo process coming?

    I just want to see a photo of the Can/Bottle and the pour in a correct style glass . Similar to Tavour photos.

    I don’t need to put my own photo up for every beer. That’s what Untappd is for.

    Enjoy
     
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  4. hopley

    hopley Meyvn (1,232) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
    Trader

    I've come a little late to this ballgame so I've been still religiously uploading beer pics, and even adding beers that I drank on a recent trip to Mexico (just got back in the nick of time). It's too bad that some people had to ruin it for everyone, and after thinking about it - I never really even knew if I was getting karma for uploading pictures...so nothing lost nothing gained. I'm still confused about what the future brings - is this it:

    1) No karma for new photos, but karma added back now might be taken away again with the new system.
    2) Sounds like you added stats back but didn't address if that will remain with the new system.
    3) Current photos go away with the new system.

    I kindof agree with the folks expressing a want for recognition vis a vis stats given the time and effort it takes to upload pictures, rate beers, etc. - beer pics and related stats are similar other stats like #'s of beers, posts, likes, etc. - you could even equate them to "numbers of beers tried in the top 250" for some people who are obsessed with like numbers and stats...I personally keep a spreadsheet of these kinds of things and I'm sure I'm not alone.

    The thing that bums me out the most though is that our pictures will go away! Those little areas where we've taken our pictures - that little cove near the frig, or that area behind the cookie jar in the place you rented over the summer, etc. - the places where you took multiple beer pics and submitted them...isn't there a way of putting these jpegs in there as "original BA pic" or something? I mean this is BA legacy stuff...

    Two other questions I have are:

    1) When are you going to make it easier to upload photos into the forums - I figured out how to upload a beer picture, but not a picture into forums and gave up on that years ago.

    2) Has there been any consensus on giving society members or others the ability to save reviews to a spreadsheet or something like that?
     
  5. JayORear

    JayORear Meyvn (1,186) Feb 22, 2012 New York
    Society Trader

    Any movement on getting Society memberships up and running again? I'm still 300 points behind where I should be because I couldn't renew.
     
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  6. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    I hope to have it up and running again next week.
     
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  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (7,023) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
    Society Trader

    Correct style glass? Good gawd, we're not drinking wine here! :wink:
     
  8. JayORear

    JayORear Meyvn (1,186) Feb 22, 2012 New York
    Society Trader

    Awesome!
     
  9. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (1,807) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
    Society

    I've regularly uploaded pics if the beer I was reviewing did not have one. Points were never an issue. (However, the archaic photo standards were, and as a result, some of my uploaded pics are pretty crappy... :slight_frown:)

    If the time to load the WBAYDN and NBS threads are an indicator, I'm not looking forward to a photo (or 5) included in every review.
     
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  10. MacMalt

    MacMalt Poo-Bah (4,022) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
    Society Trader

    Thanks Todd! I think a beer added without a photo looks forlorn.
     
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  11. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (7,023) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
    Society Trader

    You could still have uploaded them, you just didn't get karma for them.
     
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  12. MacMalt

    MacMalt Poo-Bah (4,022) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
    Society Trader

    I understand that. After the Karma was taken away I continued to upload photos of cans/bottles - because when I add a beer I like to include the photo and notes from the brewery. To me, that's the complete package. If the credit were not restored, I'd still take and upload the photo. I've been a BA long enough not to worry about Beer Karma. I'm just glad the Karma was restored.
     
  13. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Poo-Bah (4,966) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
    Society Trader

    I also don't care about the associated karma, but I will miss seeing some pics I've downloaded... some in my backyard, in The 'Zebo, with Christmas lights twinkling in the rear.... plus place pics, where I've surreptitiously included my reflection in a window, or snuck family members and friends into the pic... I take pride in my pics, and I love seeing them here on the 'net... for now... :slight_frown:
     
  14. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Poo-Bah (7,358) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
    Society

    Still sending those great pics. There is a method to the madness.. but it is possible.
     
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  15. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    They're not going anywhere anytime soon. I simply said that I can't guarantee that they'll carryover.
     
  16. chinchill

    chinchill Poo-Bah (9,710) Feb 29, 2008 South Carolina
    Society

    The photo upload process is way too difficult and time consuming. Glad to hear a revision is planned. I'll resume uploading photos only when that occurs.
     
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  17. JLK7299

    JLK7299 Meyvn (1,190) Apr 21, 2016 North Carolina
    Society Trader

    I’ve never uploaded a pic but my karma went up over 40 points last night, I’ll take it!
     
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  18. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Poo-Bah (3,983) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Society Trader

    Question Todd: How does one "abuse the system"? It seems to me you either upload a photo of a beer/place or you don't. Not planning future abuse, just curious.
     
  19. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    By uploading pictures stolen from other sources instead of those taken yourself.
     
  20. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Poo-Bah (3,983) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Society Trader

    Ah, I see. Danke!
     
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  21. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
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  22. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Poo-Bah (4,966) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
    Society Trader

    Obviously I haven't saved all the pics I've loaded here... any way to save them from BA to another location and then re-download them later?

    Thnx
     
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  23. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    Not at this time, but I'll work on some form of a solution.
     
  24. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Poo-Bah (4,966) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
    Society Trader

    Much obliged... Prosit!!
     
  25. JLK7299

    JLK7299 Meyvn (1,190) Apr 21, 2016 North Carolina
    Society Trader

    At what karma point level does one become a Poo bah?
     
  26. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Savant (942) Nov 4, 2015 New York

    IIRC, I had 54 photos uploaded at the time of the point purge, & lost 163 pts, so..... ~3pts/photo, if you need it. :wink:

    1500
     
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  27. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    @Todd Thanks a lot for restoring Karma and adding the stat back to the user profile, that is much appreciated. Would it be possible to add the stat back to personal beer page as well though? It used to say Beer/Pictures Added in the last line, but now it's just Beer Added. Not really a huge deal, but would be nice to have back to the way it used to be.
     
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  28. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,799) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
    Society Trader

    They are on your home page under stats both for beer and places (last line under both).
     
  29. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    I know, that's why said thanks for adding it back to the user profile stats. However, they also used to be on your personal beer page stats and it would be nice if they could be added back there as well. For clarification, where it says "Beers Added: xxx" now, it used to say Beers/Pictures Added: xxx/xxx".

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  30. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,799) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
    Society Trader

    It still does. Keep on looking.
     
  31. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    It clearly doesn't, as you can tell from the screenshot I posted.
     
  32. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,799) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
    Society Trader

    Keep on looking.
     
  33. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    This is what the personal beer stats look like now:

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    And this is what they used to look like:

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    I don't know how to make it any more clear than that. I think you may be mixing up the user profile stats and personal beer stats. Despite me mentioning the difference twice now, I might add.
     
  34. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Savant (942) Nov 4, 2015 New York

    That^ is also what I get. Pictures Added isn't there. Does it matter what you're using? I'm using Firefox, on my laptop .
     
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  35. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,153) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    Society Trader

    Looks like it changed from the last time I looked at it.

    [​IMG]
     
  36. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    I'm using Firefox as well, on desktop, maybe that plays into it.

    Again, these are the user profile stats, while I'm talking about the personal beer stats that are displayed in the lower right corner of the same page where your beer reviews are listed.

    [​IMG]

    Maybe the way this page is displayed differs by device though?
     
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  37. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (7,153) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    Society Trader

    Oh,I get ya. I didn't realize it was once on that page as well.
     
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  38. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    Yeah. I simply forgot to add it back in the sidebar. I'll be working on that this week.
     
  39. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,980) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society

    It's back: https://www.beeradvocate.com/society/
     
  40. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (2,789) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Moderator Society Trader

    Great to hear, cheers!
     
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