Beer snob or alcoholic?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Badger72, Apr 8, 2013.

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  1. Badger72

    Badger72 Initiate (155) Mar 8, 2013 Louisiana

    I was thinking about this the other day as I was sitting at my local pub drinking a St Arnold's Endeavor, but am I a beer snob or alcoholic if I don't drink beer that is less that 5% abv? To me when I see that it is below 5 I just think less of it. Any help or input...alcoholic or beer snob?
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  2. RichD

    RichD Champion (805) Mar 18, 2012 Rhode Island
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    Neither. You just like flavorful beers. Most flavorful beers are above 5%.
  3. tcanaday

    tcanaday Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2012 California

    If you're shutting out all sub 5% beers, you're missing out on some GREAT brews.
  4. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    ABV has nothing to do with alcoholism...

    Is impossible for any of us to answer the question. Deep down inside everyone needs to be honest with themselves regarding WHY they drink. Your answer lies there
  5. WestCoastBrew2

    WestCoastBrew2 Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2011 Vermont

    there are actually lots of quality beers under 5% abv, anchor steam, Brooklyn Summer, Dogfish Festina Peche (most all Berliner Weiss's), Stone Levitation, Troegs Dream Weaver...
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  6. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Neither but if I had to choose between the two then I'd go with alcoholic as it appears it's important to you that you get drunk.

    Personally though I think I'd label you as more as someone who is simply ignorant of all the great beers that are below 5% ABV. No offense.
  7. DaveHack

    DaveHack Champion (805) Mar 28, 2011 Pennsylvania
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  8. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    You're neither a beer snob, nor an alcoholic. It does sound like you make baseless generalizations though.
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  9. FremontBar

    FremontBar Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2013 Arizona
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    As I get older I don't find myself in as many situations where I need to drink a six or 12 pack of beer so tend to stay away from sessionable stuff also. It's not that I don't enjoy those beers I just prefer to drink 1 or 2 bombers of high gravity stuff in most instances.
  10. mynie

    mynie Poo-Bah (3,435) Jun 22, 2004 Maryland
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    Why you got to go putting labels on everything, man? Why can't I be both?
  11. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Neither. If you said 7.5% maybe it would be a different story. There's bigger flavors above 5% and that's fine. Those are the styles I tend to prefer in most situations. But there's also good beers below 5%. Discounting anything below a certain ABV regardless of style is remarkably arbitrary though
  12. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    Why are sub 5% brews no good?
    So if flavor is connected to abv then vodka must have more flavor than Bourbon County Coffee right?
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  13. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Actually I think it certainly can because alcoholics drink a lot, and they drink a lot for the effects of alcohol, and any regularly heavy drinker out there is not going to get much of a buzz on a very low alcohol beer. They always gravitate towards the higher alcohol ones because of this. These alcoholics would have to really, really drink them fast (use a funnel?) to feel any of the effects to a decent degree.

    Not to defend Utah or other states with low abv laws, but even I can drink draft pint after pint of the 3.2% and pretty much never be drunk. I, like many here, metabolize it too fast and if you drink them very fast you get all bloated and full... yuck.
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  14. Hanglow

    Hanglow Defender (645) Feb 18, 2012 United Kingdom (Scotland)

    You've made a lifestyle choice and that is cool in this modern world we live in. Good luck in your future beer adventures, just don't have car keys on you while you drink within 400 miles of me if you will.

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  15. RichD

    RichD Champion (805) Mar 18, 2012 Rhode Island
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    I knew this was coming.

    I actually didn't say that flavor is connected to abv. I said that MOST flavorful beers are over 5%. With that being said, vodka does not have more flavor than Bourbon County Coffee, nor will it ever...And, some of my favorite beers are actually under or right around 5%. Sam Smith's Oatmeal stout and Organic chocolate stout are both extremely flavorful and examples of delicious sub 5% brews in my mind.
  16. carteravebrew

    carteravebrew Zealot (502) Jan 21, 2010 Colorado

    Why do you think less of it if it's under 5% Do you think more of beer if it's over 5%?
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  17. BeerHunter76

    BeerHunter76 Zealot (506) Dec 25, 2010 Texas
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    ┬┐Por que no los dos?
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  18. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Disciple (331) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    Both I'd say.
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  19. loafinaround

    loafinaround Aspirant (296) Jul 16, 2011 New York

    there are many ways a person can be an alcoholic.
    How much do you drink daily? (total quantity of alcohol according to the equivalence given by AA 12 oz low abv beer = 5 oz wine or high abv beer = shot of liquor)
    Why do you drink?
    Do you get a buzz or drunk ever? Regularly? Is that the goal of drinking?
    Binge drink ever?
    NEED to drink daily? Do you even drink daily?

    Just because you admire beer doesn't mean you're an alcoholic. I drink usually 1 tulip of beer a day... don't drink daily, never "crave it", and can do w/o it.... Would be more torturous to eliminate my daily decaf coffee than my beer. Therefore, I know I'm in the clear. Only you can determine whether or not you might have a problem. There are many websites to help you figure out whether you do.
  20. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia

    Do you "think less of it" because it's not going to get you drunk or because it's not as tasty? That answer should help you figure out what to label yourself.
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  21. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    I'm not doubting that it CAN. I agree with you there. However, they will "always" gravitate towards higher abv?

    I know of/knew more alcoholics that preferred bud/busch/Miller/etc than anything else
  22. shirtless_mike

    shirtless_mike Zealot (515) Aug 4, 2010 Indiana
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    i'm equal parts both
  23. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,408) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Based on your description, I'd say you're an alcohol snob.
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  24. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    Sorry, I must have misunderstood you.
  25. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Are all those guys on Mad Men alcoholics?

    Oh they are?

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  26. taxman

    taxman Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2012 Illinois

    You're a beer connoisseur.
  27. RichD

    RichD Champion (805) Mar 18, 2012 Rhode Island
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    It's cool, man. I was a little vague initially.
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  28. theCoder

    theCoder Disciple (393) Oct 24, 2011 Minnesota
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    Here Here man, I was just out in uh... Auburn, CA and my boss and I stopped at the Auburn Ale House for Easter dinner and a brew. Had their Old Town Brown which was around 4-4.5%abv and I have to say that thing was very tasty and had some wonderful qualities about it. Had I not wanted to try some of their other stuff I would have just ordered that a couple more times.
  29. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    It seems redundant to say that most flavorful beers are over 5%, since most beers are over 5% regardless of how much flavor they may or may not have.
  30. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    Alcoholic with stubborn views on beer.
  31. Benish

    Benish Champion (870) Mar 13, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I only look at ABV to see how high it is; if I see something that is 10.0 or higher, this alerts me I should limit myself to only one. If its 5%, a few more won't hurt!
  32. Herky21

    Herky21 Crusader (717) Aug 7, 2011 Iowa
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    Honkers Ale, a whole array of other ESBs including Fuller's, Kolschs, Irish Stouts, Belgian Table beers...
  33. Ivegotmule

    Ivegotmule Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 North Carolina

    I judge on abv. But only on abv/$ because I don't have an endless beer $ supply. I like 21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon but I will 99.5% of the time will choose the 7.5% 6 pack beside it because the hobby is partly about the buzz. (For me)
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  34. Newbiebeer

    Newbiebeer Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2012 Connecticut

    Don't listen to some people..this is a legit question. You put it the best way you could. If you're asking this then maybe there is a concern? I don't drink low ABV beers. Higher content taste better. Are there awesome low ABV beers? Yes. So why everyone hopping on that? Not the point of his others have said, ask yourself the reasons you drink. Buzz or flavor? Personally, flavor for me. Do I enjoy a buzz? Yes. Everyday? Maybe, but I don't bring it there. Am I an alcoholic? No. Different for everyone but good luck in your endeavors :slight_smile:
  35. carteravebrew

    carteravebrew Zealot (502) Jan 21, 2010 Colorado

    OK, my post made more sense with the visual aid that apparently got removed? It was a picture of Bug Light Platinum...

    (OK, so maybe the picture of Justin Timberlake dancing behind it wasn't necessary, but c'mon!)
  36. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Was at Victory brewpub a couple years ago. A few younger guys had brought a newbie. He looks at the board and asks "so what should I have?" In unison his buds respond "Golden Monkey, it's 10%" The newbie asks "is it any good?" His buds respond "it's 10%!" So these boys could have gone anywhere an drank cheap bud light to get drunk but they chose to come to Victory instead. They wanna quick buzz but they're drinking better. So they are budding beer snobs; who in time hopefully will come around as well to the joys of English Bitter, Irish Stout and other smaller beers.
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  37. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I think that you're not making wise choices if you choose to dismiss 5% or lower beer.
  38. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (3,254) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    i seek out and enjoy many brews under 5% as far as your question you are neither just uninformed of great tasting brews <5%
  39. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    Abv means nothing. I consider myself a professional
  40. dannyhipps

    dannyhipps Aspirant (202) Oct 15, 2009 California
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    If you have to ask you have a problem. You're in denial. Best to high tail it to your nearest AA meeting.
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