Beer that plummeted in 2012

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by kort27, Jan 3, 2013.

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  1. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Devotee (463) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Hardly. But I don't understand the continuous blasting of Dark Lord on the forums. It is almost like some think that they score old beer karma points for dumping on Dark Lord. Trendy and fashionable I guess. It still seems to be wildly popular though.
  2. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    That's just because it's medicore in general.
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  3. tronto

    tronto Initiate (84) Dec 22, 2010 Kentucky
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    FBS was not the same this year at all imo. It seems a little fishy to me that they are going to a six pack this year and keeping it the same price??? Maybe b/c they used cheaper coffee this year? Idk, just seems odd that when EVERY six pack beer seems to be going to an even pricier 4 pack lately, that founders would do the opposite. Especially the year that it taste cheap and not up to par with previous years. They had to have changed something in the recipe....
  4. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I tried FBS for the first time this year, and after reading all the hype about it, was completely let down. Glad to know a lot of you are including in in a list of let downs, maybe I'm not such a shitty beer drinker after all.
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  5. kdmcguire10

    kdmcguire10 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Michigan

    The 2013 Founders Imperial Stout is way worse than 2012. I kid, I kid
  6. Revenant

    Revenant Aspirant (280) Aug 8, 2012 Minnesota

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  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,294) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    These plummeted - right off the truck:

  8. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poo-Bah (2,050) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    I'm with you on this one.
  9. DanK4

    DanK4 Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2012 Maine

    I don't know about all the FBS hate- it's tasting pretty damn good right now.
  10. ChanChan

    ChanChan Devotee (475) Dec 12, 2009 California
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    Sucaba had a little more heat than Abacus did in 2011!
  11. dungledauf

    dungledauf Initiate (170) Nov 8, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Pennsylvania Brewing Company products.
  12. xanok

    xanok Disciple (369) Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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    To me FBS is the same as it is every year. GF thinks Celebration is having its best year since she started drinking craft beer four years ago.
  13. codysjb

    codysjb Devotee (424) Jun 16, 2010 Prince Edward Island (Canada)
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    Nobody has mentioned BCBS. Just saying, after all the speculation about quality suffering under AB Inbev, it looks like it made it through fine.
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  14. BasterdInABasket

    BasterdInABasket Aspirant (259) Nov 8, 2010 Wisconsin

    BCBS. I don't know what InBev did to that beer.. This year's was terrible!
  15. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Disciple (357) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Although I pretty much loathe the "this beer isn't as hoppy as last year threads" I have to say Nugget Nectar was the biggest let down in 2012. It just didn't have that big grapefruit presense I remembered so clearly. I know they had to tweak the recipe in the new brewhouse and had trouble getting it right the first few times. I hope they play with it a little more this year and get something closer to the original. Still look forward to having this year.
  16. EdTheEdge

    EdTheEdge Disciple (392) Mar 26, 2011 California

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  17. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    And the spices were less pronounced as well, correct?
  18. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Same for me, although I heard the later batches were up to par with previous years. Unfortunately, I didn't try them after having one of the earlier offerings.
  19. Gil_Smash

    Gil_Smash Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2012 New York

    Well Founders did change the FBS from a limited release to a seasonal, I work at a wine, beer, and spirits store where wine is the main thing we sell and we were previously only able to get a case or two each year due to the limited nature of the beer and the fact that we weren't able to sell too much Founders. This year, however, we are able to get basically as much as we want. I would assume that for that reason they probably aren't able to use quite as good ingredients as before.
  20. RyFikes

    RyFikes Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 New York

    Ever since Matt Brewing (Saranac) bought Flying Bison Brewing, Rusty Chain has been stale, unflavorful, and generic.
  21. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    last August I did a 5 year vertical of Dark Lord. The 2012 DL was a syrupy mess compared to the older vintages.

    But the same has been said for every previous year of DL. It seems to be a beer that *requires* a couple of years in the cellar to become drinkable.
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  22. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Devotee (463) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I have some DL in the cellar and that seems to be the same exact thing everyone says. After about 2 years, all of a sudden everyone says it is very good. I have had DL maybe 3 times and I go in knowing that it will be sweet and over the top.
  23. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    I agree 100%. I found there to be a huge difference in Double Trouble. It went from great to "meh".
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  24. ericj551

    ericj551 Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2004 Alberta (Canada)

    I had the same thought go through my head the other day until I realized I had just finished a Heady Topper.
  25. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Meyvn (1,254) Dec 11, 2006 California
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    I just recently got into Alpine and Nelson and I heard that their latest batch after an expansion was off. I wonder if the few Nelson's I had we're of that batch. Regardless, it was still pretty good.
  26. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Poo-Bah (2,210) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    I know it is not out yet, but can I be the first to say that this year's batch of Hopslam is not as good as past years.
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  27. phildo7pt9

    phildo7pt9 Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 California

    I haven't had the founders CBS this year, last year was so phenomenal. Even if it wasn't as good as last year's, I would probably still be satisfied... I wasn't too fond with this year's Lukcy Basartd...
  28. kylelenk

    kylelenk Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2012 Michigan

    I enjoyed FBS a ton when I had it on released day at the taproom. Seemed to be incredibly creamy/vanilla tasting. Bottles, in my opinion, have always lacked the advantages this beer has had on tap. Still, I haven't noticed a huge difference in taste from last year outside of it seems to have a little more bitter chocolate taste.
  29. Revenant

    Revenant Aspirant (280) Aug 8, 2012 Minnesota

    FBS tasted NOTHING like Chocolate or Vanilla this year to me. Tasted like a tired, flat black stout. No different than a Guinness. Southern Tier Choklat absolutely DESTROYS FBS IMHO!
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  30. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    Sucaba, tasted backwards
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  31. ABisonEgo

    ABisonEgo Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    even though im not too fond of dark lord (still good, but not great) after having so many other amazing brews, i still think showing up to dark lord is just another fun way to run into other ba's, get down on a tasting and just have an overall good time. Not to mention, all the guest brews they have there makes it totally worth it...
  32. xanok

    xanok Disciple (369) Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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    I hope this is a joke.

    I've had 2011 fresh and aged, and I must say, it is damn amazing both ways.
  33. Longstaff

    Longstaff Initiate (0) May 23, 2002 Massachusetts

    GreenFlash West Coast IPA - haven't had a good one since they moved to the new brewery - that new system seems to bring out the buttery/butterscotch flavor of carastan and the once over the top hops are no longer over the top.

    Ballast Point Sculpin - Last couple of tries tasted nothing like that citrus juicy hop bomb I had when it first came to the Boston area

    Bear republic HopRod Rye - granted only tried it twice recently, but not even close to what I remember - even bordering on undrinkable
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  34. WassailWilly

    WassailWilly Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2007 New York

    Cele didnt have the normal amount of spices this year...:grinning:

    WITTBEER Initiate (82) Jan 12, 2008 Illinois
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    Brown Shugga. It no longer tastes sweet and rich like it used to.
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  36. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Zealot (580) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    BP Sculpin. Nowhere near worth the $10+ pricetag on a bomber it commands on the east coast.

    Had it several times on trips out west....a shadow of its former self IMO.
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  37. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Every beer I had this year was boozy, less hoppy, and had a thinner mouthfeel than the '11 version.
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  38. MooseBoose

    MooseBoose Devotee (440) Jun 6, 2007 Wisconsin

    I thought Double Trouble was still really good.
  39. Ranbot

    Ranbot Zealot (512) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    In my opinion, this discussion has more to do with individual's personal tastes changing than actual changes to the beers*. Unfortunately, I have no empirical to basis for my opinion, but neither does anyone else. :wink:

    *-Except Anchor's Christmas, which Anchor openly states changes year to year.
  40. Revenant

    Revenant Aspirant (280) Aug 8, 2012 Minnesota

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