Beers by BeerAdvocate, a New App for Reviewing Beers

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  1. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Crusader (785) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island

    Untappd is a pretty much a hazebro community. BAs appreciate all styles and rate accordingly.

    (just my opinion)
  2. Bruinsfan87

    Bruinsfan87 Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2014 New Hampshire

    I agree to this. I won’t lie, I mostly used untapped for the soul purpose of on the go ease. I look forward to making the switch once BA’s app launches. I will be recommending it to all my customers.
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  3. ndepriest

    ndepriest Initiate (155) Feb 21, 2012 Georgia

    A quick glance at the top rated beers on this site says that isn't true.
  4. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Crusader (785) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island

    Good point but compare classic beers that still hold up such as SN Pale Ale (4.03 here vs 3.64 Untappd), Arrogant Bastard (4.15 vs 3.76) and countless others. It's embarrassing.
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  5. Jlabs

    Jlabs Poo-Bah (1,563) Nov 11, 2013 New York
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    exciting news..very much looking forward to using the app on a regular basis!!
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  6. Peteostro

    Peteostro Initiate (109) Sep 23, 2009 Massachusetts

    would be interesting to see this by the date rage. Since BA has been around longer, the earlier reviews might be higher due to people just being happy to find a craft beer in the dark ages...
  7. wilky1

    wilky1 Disciple (397) Jun 11, 2007 Massachusetts

    That's a good point looking at 2019 ratings (granted small sample size) Stone AB at 3.84 which is close to untapped.
  8. johnInLA

    johnInLA Savant (981) Jun 12, 2005 California
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    While I personally don't use that other site, I know many that people do. And they range from beer novices to people exceedingly knowledgeable about beer.

    My view is that other site caters more to tickers, where this site caters more to raters.

    (Again, just another opinion)
  9. Franziskaner

    Franziskaner Poo-Bah (5,316) May 27, 2005 Missouri
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    I'd love to see you eventually integrate the places section to the app. I would suggest then adding the ability to click on breweries/bars/shops and see how far they are from your current location and have a tie in to get us to Google maps. Those of us who travel for business or want to plan out some stops on vacation would use this.
  10. donspublic

    donspublic Poo-Bah (2,202) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    I use that site only to check taplist for bars and restaurants. Now if that was eventually built into this app, that might be a source of income. I know taplist charges a pretty penny for that service, but if that was in the BA App where you could check a taplist then get the ratings, man die and go to heaven....
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  11. Sctn4Elk

    Sctn4Elk Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2017 Texas

    I've always considered Untappd very user palate specific, without any regard for style specifics and not rated against bjcp. Definitely a useful app for the community to rate what they like, get suggestions for beers they would like and be able to tell their friends how they liked a particular beer, but not really good for determining if that beer is very close to what the style indictates.

    What the Craft Beer community has been missing is a rating app that is geared towards the style specifics and rated against standard judging criteria and beers of like flavors.

    I see a lot of folks on Untappd rate beers they don't even like the style of ,at a 1 or 2, without any regard for how well that beer falls into the style, or even rated against other like beers. That brings the ratings down for an otherwise great beer, just because that person didn't like hoppy IPA's for example.

    It would also be nice if the ratings metrics were based on an individuals rating experience. For example, I usually don't rate beers on BA (for no apparent reason) and so my rating should add very little to the overal statistics for a particular beer (read that as do not over-inflate or unecessarily drag it down). However, a person who has rated over 1000 beers in that style, should probably have a lot more weight given to his/her rating. And the rating criteria should be mandatory, ie (look, smell, taste, feel and overall), because I see a lot of Untappd checkins that are blank....which helps no one.

    Currently on Untappd breweries have access to go in and edit the beer specifics, as a lot of times users just don't have enough information to properly fill out all of the data. Will there be a log in for breweries to edit the specifics, respond to users ratings and flag ratings that may be inappropriate? For example, a beer that has an average rating of lets say 4.0, receives a rating of 1 star (for whatever), and that drags down a beer unnecessarily. Untappd does not currently have a way for a brewery to flag a suspicious rating. Not saying they should be removed from the stats, but there needs to be some way to lessen the impact of improperly rated beers, if they meet rating criteria for the style...that's a huge challenge.

    Looking forward to seeing what BA comes up with.
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  12. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Brewers have been able to claim their places for a while now, which gives them access to some basic tools for keeping their listings up to date. And we've also had a reporting system in place for many years. And anyone can report inappropriate reviews.
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  13. jimk1942

    jimk1942 Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Looking forward to informative reviews and creative photos. 3PM Fri and that means beer time. One Stoudts Scarlet Lady (ESB) coming up!
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  14. brentk56

    brentk56 Poo-Bah (11,375) May 13, 2004 North Carolina
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    While I don't tick beers at Untappd, I do use the app for two purposes:

    1) The popularity of mobile ticking vs using BA has meant that many recently released beers show up in their database that don't show up here. When I go into a brewpub, I have found Untappd generally has ratings on everything on tap and it helps to scroll through the recent ticks to figure out what I want to order. The BA website is not user friendly for that purpose as there is no way to sort by recent ratings. Hopefully, this app will mean that more beers get added and rated so that the lack of beer listings issue gets resolved and I hope there will be a way to sort through recent ratings by brewery like you can on Untappd.

    2) I travel a lot and Untappd enables me to figure out where I might find particular beers I want to try. That is a valuable feature that I hope will get incorporated into BA's app.

    A feature that Untappd doesn't offer which would be very valuable would be able to search for the highest rated beers in close proximity to one's location. Sometimes, in my travels, I don't have a specific bar or brewpub in mind and a resource to find a great beer nearby would be incredibly valuable.
  15. VoodooBear

    VoodooBear Champion (864) Aug 25, 2012 Puerto Rico

    Thank the Baby Fucking Jesus. Adding photos for beer is my only gripe here, ever.
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  16. VoxRationis

    VoxRationis Poo-Bah (2,931) Dec 11, 2016 New York
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    Looking forward to trying it out.
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  17. arizcards

    arizcards Poo-Bah (5,445) Jun 11, 2003 North Carolina
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    I use BA for my personal "beer diary" but will refer to the Untappd app when considering beer purchases as some new beers from newer breweries have no samples on BA or the sample size is too small, especially when it comes to all the IPAs out nowadays as it seems all the beers that come out these days are to keep the tickers interested.
    With regard to the "gap" in ratings, nowadays the quality of beer that is out is mostly sooooo much better than yesteryear and as a result the younger generations that have grown up with Untappd are a little "harsher" when rating lower gravity beers compared to Beer Advocates (i am so appreciative of the quality these days :slight_smile:). It does seem that the Untappd ratings for the newer high gravity beers are rated higher than Beer Advocate.
    For what it is worth I most often find the majority of my beer ratings in between the Untappd ratings and the BA median ratings.
    Bottom line...I do appreciate the efforts of @Mike and @Todd for making BA a better community!
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  18. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (5,380) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I haven't seen this info - how will society members be notified the beta app is ready for testing?

  19. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    We'll post it and email everyone, too.
  20. Sctn4Elk

    Sctn4Elk Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2017 Texas

    Awesome. Can't wait to give it a try.
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  21. elliot23

    elliot23 Initiate (102) Jan 27, 2009 Maryland

    This app is about 5 years too late.
  22. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    It's still our top request and we're looking forward to launching it for those who want it.
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  23. remmons

    remmons Initiate (93) Sep 3, 2009 North Carolina

    For those who are comparing this and untappd, I think it's important to understand the audience for each app. If I'm looking for general directional trends on a brewery or a beer, untappd is going to have the massive amount of data I'm looking for -- it's a brewery popularity contest on that platform from less informed individuals. If I'm looking for thoughtful descriptions from self proclaimed beer aficionados, I'm going to look here for a much more accurate depiction. As long as each app focuses on it's strength, everything is going to be great.
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  24. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Really looking forward to the share photo feature... truly has been a P.I.T.A.
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  25. beerN3RD

    beerN3RD Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2006 Colorado

    Me too! I can't wait to see this app. Hopefully any day now! :slight_smile:
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  26. BeachRunner

    BeachRunner Initiate (61) Sep 18, 2013 Washington

    Will we be able to sort by country/city for travel purposes?
  27. robebo44

    robebo44 Zealot (598) Nov 16, 2013 Virginia

    I'm very excited about this app, almost as excited as trying a new beer! Can't wait!
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  28. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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  29. shopsis

    shopsis Initiate (178) Dec 28, 2005 New York

    I am a Society member. how will I find out when the Beta is available, and how do I get it?
  30. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    We'll notify everyone as soon as the beta is available. There's also a thread in the Society forum that mentions this.

    Look for an invite (very) soon.
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  31. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (14,627) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Even if the app doesn't initially have it, it would be great if there eventually was a barcode scan button which allows you to scan the barcode on a pack or bottle/can and have it bring up the score and description - and your score if you've had it. I buy a lot of singles to try and I want to quickly find out if I've had it, and ensure it doesn't totally suck. Partial suck is fine.
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  32. MKozaka

    MKozaka Disciple (318) Apr 25, 2006 Connecticut

    Wow, outstanding! Only played around with the app for 5 mins but love the interface. After almost 13 years on BA, time to start reviewing!
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  33. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Good to hear! There's thread in the Society forum for @Mike and I to gather your feedback.
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  34. JamesBondGA

    JamesBondGA Devotee (464) Aug 10, 2014 Georgia

    can't wait to try this app. I miss the old one.
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  35. LeRose

    LeRose Poo-Bah (1,749) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts

    OK - I had forgotten about this coming...but it did say it would be showing up for Android after the Apple release.

    Is it in Google Play store yet? Feel like I am totally missing the boat here...willing to play with it to help the cause if I can get it.
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  36. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Initiate (99) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    As someone who uses Untappd for convenience, this has me very excited. I much prefer BA's rating system and community, so I will definitely be using this. I've had over 2,400 unique brew's since I began using Untappd 2 years ago so I'll be a solid contributor.

    Cheers for making this happen! :beers:
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  37. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (5,380) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I haven't seen an Android email either. I spent the last couple weeks traveling, and would've been a nice time to learn/review the app.
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  38. ZenAgnostic

    ZenAgnostic Meyvn (1,265) Jan 27, 2011 Texas

    So the app still isn't out for either store yet? Someone lemme know when it finally drops so I can buy a subscription.
  39. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,684) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    As per a couple of posts above, we've opted to extend beta testing.
  40. cryptichead

    cryptichead Poo-Bah (1,824) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    Did beta testing just became available for Android? If so, time to renew my Society membership. If I renew now can I get ok the first Android wave?
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