Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by eagles22, Jan 5, 2021.
Nope. A little south of Lake Superior in a walk out cellar so probably in the 50s. We don't use the fridge up there since the cellar temp is perfect.
Don't remember the aroma but taste was good. Was expecting far worse.
Picked up a sixer today at 16.99.
Always worth a grab, would I grab another? Maybe not, but I feel it’s drinking nice —sweet and malty, with a nice hop bite.
Weird how I used to call places to reserve me a pack of this one... time changes..
Ha, I dropped them for their price so long ago I forgot about them. Good call.
Funny we get Singlecut here, but none of their hoppy stuff. I’ve had a few several years ago, but since it was a trade no clue to the cost. But if you pay TreeHouse prices there shouldn’t be much complaint about $15-16 dollars beers. Imperial Hop Drop and Roll is right there, no complaints.
Beer will hold up much better when stored cool vs. at room temperature.
Hop aroma is the first aspect to fade as hoppy beers age. I would suspect that at several months of ageTwo Heated would have a muted hop aroma but as I previously posted I have never had a 5ish month old version so I personally have no experience here.
Luckily I’ve found it under 20 days old, I’d say dependably 4-5 weeks old, real winner with 2H Ale. I haven’t had it aged, and I’d have to do that on purpose and I can guess what a 5-6 month old beer might smell and taste like. For some reason as good as it is it’s always stellar on tap, always. Most beers it doesn’t seem to matter much, but this is one that seems a bit better.
If you are willing to 'sign up' and do this for scientific posterity I would appreciate hearing about it.
Permit me to suggest some study parameters:
Store the Two Hearted beer(s) at room temperature (e.g., 70 degrees F) to simulate them being on the shelf of an air conditioned beer retailer (e.g., a supermarket). As I know you are aware this is generous condition since many (most?) of the Retail Beer Distributors in PA are not air conditioned and those beers get quite hot during the summer months (e.g., accelerated aging in those conditions).
When you conduct a taste test of the aged beer(s) do a side-by-side with a fresh Two Hearted. Consider all taste differences but especially compare the intensity of hop aroma and hop flavor between the aged and fresh beer(s).
I specifically mentioned "beer(s)" since it might be prudent to age more than one bottle/can to mitigate single bottle variability. Better yet age some Two Hearted in bottles and cans to see if that makes a difference.
Lol, Nah, it’s not too pricy on sale $9.99, $10.99 everyday price. But I’ll drink mine fresh, I’m not that curious, if I want to drink off IPAs I’ll buy a six of Union Jack, that’s always 6 months old or older. And that beer at that age I know I don’t like.
Like I said, it's been a while since we last got a drop of Bell's stuff here in PDX, but I think cans of two hearted we received weren't super fresh. I recall being hesitant to buy any, but as I hadn't had any in so long, I went ahead. As you surmised, the nose was not very impressive, and I recall being concerned about that (as two hearted IPA I had on the East Coast was always very fragrant with a pronounced citrus aroma). However, they tasted just fine. It wasn't quite as "juicy" and "bright" as super fresh versions I've had, but it was still quite good I thought.
I want to say the cans were 3 or 4 months old. So not quite the 5 months you're referencing.
Got a six pack today for $16.99, which is a $3 price drop from the norm around here. Nice.
"Good" for 6 months? How about "OK"?
Last 6pk I got , 4?weeks ago , was from August. Previous to that, from the same place was from November , so I didn't even look at the date when I grabbed the more recent one. Had the last one of the November bottling, & the first one from the August bottling, on the same night. Definite difference. Older stuff wasn't bad , just had lost most of the citrus & floral notes. Overall impression was more bitter/piney , like some more basic old-old-school IPAs.
I bought a six-pack in a deep-cut discount mixed case in August this year (8 mos) and it didn't taste anything much like I remember it tasting fresh, even though it was in cans. Drank them all, though - still beer.
picked up a six pack about two weeks ago $17.99, less honey in it than I remember, but still drank great!
I paid $17.99 for mine. I don't recall seeing it below $20 at all the last few years. I'm going to be picking up another 6er here sometime too. I enjoy bottles, maybe it's just adding the Hopslam logo to my bottle cap collection, but regardless - I appreciate the switch in format. It shouldn't be sitting around long enough for oxygen/light to become a factor in flavor anyway.
Had my first bottle of this batch and agree that its tops. Great batch
I didn’t see it today.
Yup. It is top tier IPA. I'm about to blow through my first case and might grab a second. Not many beers I would say that about today..
Ya if I lived in their distro still I'd go through a case for sure
TW Pembroke Pines had a good supply of 6 pack long necks and 4-6 pack cases.
These "old school" beers seem to resonate more than ever. Did not disappoint. Nostalgia?--perhaps, but I enjoy the "finished" taste, robust hop presence and firm malt backbone. Honey did seem a little more subtle than prior ones.
Hard to remember what 2006 was truly like but still love this one.
Everywhere in CLT
I'm really enjoying it this year. I think last year I was a little more into NE IPAs at the time, but the herbal / resiny notes on this beer this year are fantastic. I'll be buying another pack or two tonight.
I’ll check again, I’m not up for a 60 mile round trip to Bestway today.
Pretty much sold out in the Raleigh - Durham area
I’ve been through two six packs, and about to start on a third. I am really liking this year’s batch. Had one on Thursday and noticed that the hops had faded a little bit, and the sweetness was more pronounced. I am definitely not complaining, just noticed a flavor change. The bottles I have were filled on 12/30, so they are about 5 1/2 weeks old.
Not a fan of DIPAs albeit, but this one disappointed me yet again. Maybe I'm missing the point, but this one seems overly sweet. Malts upfront and through the end. Overpowers the hops. Too malty, too sweet, and too much. Maybe I'm the only one with that viewpoint. Anyway, maybe I should have kept my mouth shut with this opinion, but I didn't.
Still havent seen it in my area
Sold out in Greensboro. Never saw it.
No, you are not alone here. The sweetness aspect is more that I would prefer.
I bought one six-pack this year since so many folks seem to love this beer so I figured I would try it again but...
This year's six-pack will be my last purchase of Hopslam. It would seem that lots of folks love this beer but that is not me.
In all fairness it is not an awful beer but considering the price this is just not a worthwhile purchase for me. More for other folks to buy?
You're definitely not alone there. That's a common complaint about hopslam. To me they dialed this years batch back to a balance that I like more than the last few batches I've had. But its definitely a beer that isn't for everyone.
It probably helps that mine are usually gifts from family in Michigan. Free beer is always better
I was leery when I saw it in NV and 30 days old, so I only grabbed one. Consumed during the Superbowl and was not disappointed. Not hyper dry like when I've had it fresh long ago, but I really enjoyed it and didn't find any overly sweet aspects. Wish I'd grabbed a couple more bottles.
Ya I often wonder during. Hopslam season how much of the perceived uptick of sweetness over the years is due to freshness, due to my palate.shifting, due to changes in the market context it exists in, or due to actual recipe change. Either way, it's a seasonal treat I enjoy and I did think.this year was a return to form after two years in a row that were kinda iffy in my opinion
If you're interested in getting some, keep looking. I'm pretty sure that Bell's brews Hopslam thru February and a second round of deliveries might still occur in your neck of the woods.
Total Wine went thru 40 cases 3 weeks ago, Bestway handed out bracelets for a 5:30 release yesterday. I don’t care to do that, if I come across it fine, if not fine too.
I know it's a long thread and difficult to read through, but as alluded to by others, your viewpoint is not unique. Lot's of commentary in this thread from others who share your viewpoint (including myself).
You've been buying this beer for a number of years now... Did you detect any appreciable difference in this year's version as opposed to prior vintages?
Short answer: not really.
Longer answer: there seems to discussion every year about the level of sweetness of this beer. This discussion is complicated by the fact that as the beer ages it is likely that the sweetness aspect will become more prominent as the hop aspects fade. So, for a given year is one person reporting that the beer is 'extra' sweet because the beer is 'old' while another person reports that this year's version is not so sweet since the beer is just a few weeks from packaging? Is there variability in past years between bottled vs. canned versions (e.g., less oxidation in the canned beers?)? Perhaps some folks are more sensitive to sweetness (e.g., me) vs. other folks who do not find this sweetness aspect to be distracting?
Lots of variables here.
Oh, and then some people seem to subscribe to "palate shift" which is not something I personally buy into; my personal palate has remained consistent over decades of drinking beers of all kinds.
P.S. FWIW my six-pack has information of: "PKG 01/08/2021 Shelf Life - 3 Months".
Hopslam is not my favorite beer, but I like it well enough, will have only 1 a day at most, and like a marker in time, I like that it's a seasonal. Doesn't bother me at all that the malt-honey-hops aspect can shift in dominance.
It's not the best DIPA out there, and it doesn't bother me. I like it because it's different from the other DIPA (actually, more of an imperial honey DIPA) offerings out there. Enjoy if you like it...
It sounds like your drinking habits (regularly drinking a wide variety of styles) protect against palate shift. I've always understood the term to refer to the effect.of drinking a bunch of a single intensely flavored style (usually super hoppy) and its impact on your perception of flavors. I know that when I used to drink essentially nothing but IPA I had a lot harder time appreciating the less intense flavors found in other styles