Best of unloved Ale styles

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  1. tone77

    tone77 May 20, 2009 Pennsylvania

    It seems the following ale styles don't get much respect on BA:
    Kvass, average rating of 3.2
    Chile Beer, 3.42
    American Blonde Ale, 3.43
    Cream Ale, 3.47
    American Pale Wheat Ale, 3.48
    English Pale Mild Ale, 3.49
    If you were making a mixed sixer with one of each style, what would you choose?
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  2. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    A really good Cream Ale. Union Brewing has a good one called Anthem, it's delicious!
  3. mactrail

    mactrail Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    There is a reason (possibly genetic) that Kvass doesn't get much respect.
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  4. bubseymour

    bubseymour Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Cream Ale...New Glarus Spotted Cow and Six Point Sweet Action makes are both great ones IMO.

    If I did some research I'm sure there are some tasty American Blondes, Pale Wheats and English Milds. Haven't tried a Kvass yet, and Chile beers are just plain bad IMO.
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  5. Chaz

    Chaz Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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  6. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    Cream Ale - Sixpoint Sweet Action
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  7. EvilMidnightBomber

    EvilMidnightBomber Feb 12, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'm not a fan of spicey stuff, but my bro-in-law who likes spicey stuff and stouts absolutely loved this beer:
    Hot Chocolate - Valkyrie Brewing:

    As for the Cream Ale, I'll second the vote for Spotted Cow. It's not amazing compared to other NG brews, but there's a reason you can buy it in every gas station and restaurant in WI. Outboard from MKE isn't bad either.
  8. Sweffin

    Sweffin Jun 25, 2013 Wisconsin

    Pale wheat - lagunitas little sumpin sumpin, three floyds gumballhead
  9. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Blonde Ale: Wowee Zowee
    Wheat: Oberon
  10. RobinLee

    RobinLee Feb 15, 2012 Wisconsin

    I like Lil Sumpin Sumpin better than Oberon, but both are great. For chili beer, I guess I'd go with Theobroma or Thai Peanut from Right Brain. EPM, probably Tallgrass Pub Ale. Another Right Brain for American blonde, Strawberry Fields. Cream ale is a no brainer- Spotted Cow.
  11. zid

    zid Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    No bombers since it's a mixed sixer.

    Kvass - Kvass can be nice, but it's not something I think of as beer... so... pass
    Chile Beer - Ghost Face Killah, it's a novelty
    American Blonde Ale - Summer Love, one of my favorites
    Cream Ale - Newburgh, love that they're canning this now
    American Pale Wheat Ale - Little Sumpin' Sumpin', not crazy about this one, but it's the one I'd take
    English Pale Mild Ale - I loved the last EPM I had, but including one in a mix six is kind of impossible... replacing with EDM and going with Cains.
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  12. caffeineTX

    caffeineTX Aug 29, 2014 Texas

    8th Wonder in houston makes a really nice cream ale called Dome Faux'm

    to me cream ales just aren't that exciting, the only thing i like about the style is that it has a really heavy mouth feel for something that is really light.
  13. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I'd skip the mixed sixer and get something I really like
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  14. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT May 9, 2014 South Carolina

    Kvass or Kvas is not beer. Kvass is Kvass. Like Kombucha is Kombucha. It should be removed from here as a beer style.
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    American Blonde Ale – Victory Summer Love

    Cream Ale – Sixpoint Sweet Action; but it is not really a Cream Ale:flushed:

    American Pale Wheat Ale – Lagunitas Little Sumpin' Sumpin'

    English Pale Mild Ale – My favorite Mild Ale is Yards Brawler but it is dark in color (not Pale)

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  16. TylerKitchens

    TylerKitchens Apr 9, 2014 Massachusetts

    and Fortunate Islands from Modern Times
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  17. zid

    zid Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I am very much down with your thinking. Have you ever had cask Sumer Love?
    BTW, now that Sixpoint is including style in their packaging, Sweet Action is being marketed as an "ale" plain and simple... but I bet you've noticed that too.
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  18. marquis

    marquis Nov 20, 2005 England

    There are very few Pale Milds but part of this may be through reluctance of brewers to label beers as such.Of course, a century ago all milds were pale (and pretty highly hopped as well)
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  19. zid

    zid Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I've suspected that milds whose color could fall into either camp are more likely to be labeled "dark." I've heard that breweries have had better success selling their milds by not labeling them "mild" either.
    Have you noticed a big change over the years in the amount of cask mild out there?
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    “Have you ever had cask Sumer Love?” I have never seen Summer Love on cask. Have you had this beer on cask? If so, what are your thoughts?

    “BTW, now that Sixpoint is including style in their packaging, Sweet Action is being marketed as an "ale" plain and simple... but I bet you've noticed that too.” Shane (@Sixpoint) has consistently posted that Sweet Action is not a Cream Ale; some BA selected the Cream Ale style and it has ‘labeled’ that way on BA ever since. I have communicated to Shane on multiple occasions that Sweet Action very much reminds me of an English Summer/Golden Ale (despite its amber color).

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  21. Treb0R

    Treb0R Dec 12, 2012 Oregon

    Never had a Kvass
    Ballast Point Habanero Sculpin
    Victory Summer Love, from the limited Blondes I've tried
    Carton Regular Coffee Cream Ale
    FFF Gumballhead and Ithaca White Gold
    Never had an English Pale Mild
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  22. Dicers

    Dicers Sep 2, 2012 California
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    I like English Milds, but a really good one should be on cask engine which not very available stateside
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  23. marquis

    marquis Nov 20, 2005 England

    During my drinking life, Mild has gone from being massively popular (perhaps the highest selling style) to a niche drink.It seems to sell well in pubs for a few days at a time but few pubs keep a permanent mild on pump.In May it's a different picture with the stuff available pretty well anywhere but once the campaign finishes sales slump.
  24. patto1ro

    patto1ro Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands

    A huge change. When I lived in Leeds (1975 - 1982) every Tetley's pub with cask had both Mild and Bitter. Mild is much rarer now.

    Mild has gone from being a mainstream drinking beer to an oddity.
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  25. rfgetz

    rfgetz Nov 14, 2008 New Jersey

    American Pale Wheat - 3 Floyds Gumballhead
    Cream Ale - Carton Regular Coffee
    Chilie Beer - DFH Theobroma
    Amercan Blonde - Victory Summer Love
    Never had a good English Pale Mild or any Kvass
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  26. JuliusPepperwood

    JuliusPepperwood Jul 21, 2013 North Carolina

    Ranked in order of preference

    American Pale Wheat Ale - Bell's Oberon
    Cream Ale - Sixpoint Sweet Action
    Chile Beer - Westbrook Mexican Cake (a bomber but the only chile beer I've ever liked)
    American Blonde Ale - Victory Summer Love
    English Pale Mild Ale - Tallgrass Pub Ale
    Kvass - Never had one
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  27. jcos

    jcos Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    Both new and "old" formulas...
  28. jsrose16

    jsrose16 Nov 5, 2014 Illinois

    Kvass: Never had one
    Chile Beer: Sierra Nevada Hellraiser Chocolate Chili Stout
    American Blonde Ale: Ommegang Gnomegang
    Cream Ale: New Glarus Spotted Cow
    American Pale Wheat Ale: Three Floyds Gumballhead
    English Pale Mild Ale: Never Had One
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  29. FRANKIE65

    FRANKIE65 Dec 12, 2014 Canada (ON)

    Cave ass.......just brings up bad visuals
  30. zid

    zid Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I had cask Summer Love at Victory and unfortunately I was only there once so I crammed many beers in that I can't really get elsewhere. If I had the luxury of just popping in, I would order a large serving of it in an instant and would leave with a better recollection and sense of it. I do remember loving the small glass I had.

    Many moons ago, I posted that I simply thought of Sweet Action as a "pale ale" and Shane "liked" that post.
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  31. Jnashed

    Jnashed Feb 14, 2014 Virginia

    Should Chili beer be a style? Since it seems it can be essentially a porter, stout, IPA, or strong ale, or really anything else with chili peppers added?

    Cream Ale for me Spotted cow, American Blonde Victory Summer Love, American Pale Wheat Lil Sumpin Sumpin (gumballhead is in another league and almost category for me ) Kvass = never had
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  32. azorie

    azorie Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    Kvass 1 day I will visit Ukraine and try the real deal.
    Chile beer had a few don't really see the point TBH.
    cream ale is really a bud ale? tried many hated all of them....
    American pale wheat yep: Oberon
    Mild, can be dark so that description is wrong and I said so many times.

    I brew Ron's Dark mild allot. its called 1832 Truman XXXX mild.
    avg ABV 10.5
  33. marquis

    marquis Nov 20, 2005 England

    Mild can be dark and usually is . But pale ones do exist such as
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  34. SCW

    SCW Jul 25, 2004 New York

    Impossible to define!
  35. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

  36. papat444

    papat444 Dec 28, 2006 Canada (QC)

    English Mild Ale, anything FRESH from the UK. :grinning:
  37. Hodgson

    Hodgson Nov 17, 2014 Canada (ON)

    Hard to choose because each could be great on its own, but probably the English Pale because when it's done right the flavor is so good. A good chile beer is great too but so often the taste isn't executed well. It needs to be a clear "true" addition but not too much, usually it is overdone. I've had a cream ale or two from craft producers that are first rate. Etc.
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