Black Friday 2014 Bourbon County Release

Discussion in 'US - South' started by SkinnyT, Oct 29, 2014.

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  1. BrewerB

    BrewerB Mar 5, 2008 North Carolina

    Total Wine in Clearwater still had the regular BCBS in stock as of around 11:30AM this morning. The BW is now sold out.
  2. joshodonn

    joshodonn Jan 21, 2011 Florida

    I took the scenic route on my drive from Tampa to Miami today. Still lots of regular BCBS available at ABCs and TWs throughout SW Florida. The Naples TW appeared to be low on BCBS, but I have no clue if they have any more hidden away. The Fort Myers TW still had 5+ cases but a 1 4-pack limit. A couple places had the barley wine. Not surprisingly no vanilla or coffee to be found.
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  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Feb 12, 2012 Georgia

    If you are in the Atlanta area, specifically the southside of town, there's a growler/bottle shop in Newnan that has BCBS on draft for growlers.

    2014 might be the most drinkable BCBS, fresh wise, that I've had.
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  4. RDMII

    RDMII Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    That just blows me away. Major craft beer store pulled teeth just to see a case of BCBS, but random places in nowhere got a keg. The spread out of this release makes absolutely zero sense to me.
  5. Bschneider

    Bschneider Jan 2, 2010 South Carolina

    Coffee is on tap at World of Beers in Wellington (WPB area) right now.
  6. djben

    djben Sep 4, 2013 Florida

    ^ wrote exactly this on my untappd checkin a few days ago.
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  7. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Feb 12, 2012 Georgia

    Yeah, I don't know how the whole system works for stores to jockey their reps to get some allocation.

    I do know that, they have it on tap and I haven't seen it at growler shops yet. Admittedly, I haven't looked hard, but mostly hear of a couple bars getting kegs.
  8. zac16125

    zac16125 Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    I agree. I think choosing certain cities to have "events" in also threw off the distribution. I mean why send nearly all of the state of FL's supply of Vanilla to Jacksonville? No one even likes Jacksonville, not even people who live in Jacksonville like Jacksonville! I kid, I kid.

    But on a serious note, it is a weird way to do a release. And like I said several pages ago, I don't necessarily agree with spreading out a pseudo-limited release to your entire distribution area. I think it adds to the hype train, and makes it seem more "rare" than it actually is. Although theoretically it "shares the wealth" and allows more people to have a chance to get the beer, in reality what it does is impose very strict bottle limits, lines out the door, and leaves lots of people disappointed.

    I'd love to see a bottle count on Vanilla. My completely random guess is 20-30k bottles, at least. When was the last time you remember this kind of craziness on a 30k bottle release beer?

    Also want to comment on SC's supply this year. Not sure if its the whole state of just the Charleston area, but last year BCBS lasted for a couple weeks on the shelf at TW. You could essentially get an unlimited amount if you stopped in each day and got the one 4 pack limit. This year's supply of BCBS at TW is already gone. I wouldn't be surprised if some popped back up in a few weeks (like BCBBW did last year), but as of now it looks like the CHS supply is tapped.
  9. joshodonn

    joshodonn Jan 21, 2011 Florida

    Same thing here in FL... My local ABC in the Tampa area which sells a lot of craft beer got 3 cases of BCBS and 1 case of each of the variants. I was in an ABC today in Charlotte Harbor, which a snowbird town in SW Florida, and they still had 10 cases of BCBS and 3 cases of barley wine. So hard telling how much they started with. Truly bizarre
  10. zac16125

    zac16125 Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    A southwest FL town with unlimited BCBS and BCBBW seems like a true paradise to me.

    I suspect a second wave release of regular BCBS and barleywine to hit the shelves at some point.
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  11. joshodonn

    joshodonn Jan 21, 2011 Florida

    In defense of the Brass Tap, they are not necessarily intentionally price gouging. It is my understanding that as a bar their cost for a case of beer is significantly higher than a retailer (i.e. TW or ABC) for the same case of beer. They typically offer a 25% discount for carryout bottles, however they are not offering this discount for the Vanilla
  12. zac16125

    zac16125 Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Just curious, where did you hear this? You certainly may be right, but I never heard that bars pay more money for beer than bottle shops/liquor stores.

    Also, for what its worth, I don't even consider $40 a bottle a price gouge if its at a bar. Shit, I know tons of places that charge $5 a beer for Bud Light. Thats approximately a 500% mark up. Makes the $40 Vanilla Rye look like a steal.
  13. zac16125

    zac16125 Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Also, if anyone wants to hook me up and buy one of the said $40 bottles of Vanilla at the Brass Tap, I will gladly reimburse you, and will ship a couple treats your way as a thank you.
  14. joshodonn

    joshodonn Jan 21, 2011 Florida

    I heard this directly from the GM of a different Brass Tap several years ago... They had bottles of DFH 120 for like $20 and the ABC right across the street had them for the normal $10-$12 each, and I asked him why that was... Perhaps he was just giving me a line of BS, but he said his cost was higher than what the retail stores were charging.
  15. raczkowski

    raczkowski May 16, 2011 Florida

    i have heard this as well. a local bar near me said when they order beer, they are paying roughly retail for it, since it is supposed to be drank on site. i believe the guy, and with this statement as well, i think this is why certain bars charge so much.
  16. zac16125

    zac16125 Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    That is interesting. I always thought bars just charged more cause 1) they could, and 2) they had higher overhead
  17. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Greensboro didn't get much, I did find a love 4 pk yesterday though, I'm quite sure all the reg is gone. Wonder if e odd coffee will pop up this week, I hear Bestway has a case.
  18. FrankenMiller

    FrankenMiller Mar 5, 2014 Florida

    As a reformed bar owner LOL. Most bars and restaurants do not necessarily pay a higher price as in RETAIL. However the TW and ABC and Bevmos all get a discount for buying quantity.
    The only way to explain it is using Macro Beer. Those downtown clubs and bars that do 3 for 1 on bottle beer can do it because they buy 100 cases at a time and getting a pretty good discount. This discount gives them an effective cost of say $1 per bottle. If they are doing 3 for 1s at $5 they are still making $2 per sale.
    So if TW in one Distributers area buys 100 cases between 3 stores they get a discount. On something limited like BCBS and variants I assure you there is not a huge disparity in discounts. This is such a hot commodity the distributers know that the retailers will buy it for almost any price.
    As far as $40 for the Vanilla. That is maybe a little high if it were a basic $14-$17 cost bottle. But the manager at my local ABC said it was $18 per bottle cost in his system. They would have sold it for $24.99 if they got any.
    That bar may have paid $20 a bottle, Now a 50% markup on a bottle for on premise consumption is not unheard of when you Factor in overhead and labor. Also if you normally sell take home bottles at a 25% discount it makes even more sense. As a bar owner if I knew I could get $40 a bottle I would do it. $50 would be pushing it for me.
    But I have a conscience and that is one reason I sold my bars. LOL but that is another story.
  19. RDMII

    RDMII Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    What he said above. In GA, no matter who is buying it from the distributor, whether it's a retail package store, grocery store, bar, restaurant, it's all the same price. Now some distros give a discount if you buy more, IE 10% off if you buy 10 cases vs. one case, but it's still a limited discount. Also, grocery stores don't use the same margins, so a Publix marks it up 10%, whereas a beer store only may do 20%, full liquor stores does 25%, a bar does 30%, whatever. Everyone plays a different game based on their other sales and margins, but no one pays overly more through the distributor than anyone else, ever. Bars typically will get a better price since they're buying more quantity, especially on a limited beer.
  20. JdoubleA

    JdoubleA Apr 27, 2011 North Carolina

    Any barleywine in charlotte anywhere? NC anywhere?
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  21. jumboj11

    jumboj11 May 24, 2009 Georgia

    I'm not sure how our local places here in the ATL faired compared to last year, but while I was out in Nashville on Black Friday one of the stops I made was to the biggest GI account in the city. Last year they received 25 cases of BCBS. This year, they got 5. Last year they received coffee, backyard and a ton of BW. This year they got no variants and only two cases of BW. With numbers like that, it's pretty obvious they're trying to get this out to as many locations as possible.
  22. RDMII

    RDMII Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    It wasn't good, that's for sure. It was thin everywhere. Nonexistent in a lot of places. I understand spreading the footprint, but leaving premier places off the list or setting up places that clearly aren't major go-to stores just seems backwards to me.
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  23. jumboj11

    jumboj11 May 24, 2009 Georgia

    I didn't really pay attention to who got what here while I was out of town, but the fact that my local McCray's (at West Village) got a keg of BCBS is mind blowing to me. Their cliental is definitely not 'crafty' so I'm sure it's still on. I'd love to know how much they're charging per glass because I'm sure it's not cheap.
  24. FrankenMiller

    FrankenMiller Mar 5, 2014 Florida

    On Black Friday the ABC in Lk Mary put kegs of '13 BCBS and BCBBW on the growler station. $22.95 for 32oz.
  25. RDMII

    RDMII Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    Just saw a report of a Kroger getting BCBS. Wow.
  26. Jozudds

    Jozudds Nov 15, 2014 Michigan

    This is probably a shot in the dark - but are any grocery stores such as Harris Teeter, Publix, etc. getting BCBS? I see someone posted that Kroger got some in GA - I'm out of the Triangle area in NC - thanks!
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  27. ndepriest

    ndepriest Feb 21, 2012 Georgia

    I'm a manger at a Kroger in Georgia that has a great beer selection. We have growlers and get a lot of the major special releases (Bourbon County, Hopslam - things of that nature.) Kroger is coming on up in the beer world.
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  28. bushycook

    bushycook Jan 31, 2011 Virginia

    Yeah, two Navy base exchanges got a bunch of cases here in the Norfolk/Va Beach region. I mean that's cool to supply our service members, but that's 20 or so cases of BCBS being distributed basically in an area restricted to the general public. I mean I got some, but how do you guys that got shorted this year feel about this?
  29. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Feb 12, 2012 Georgia

    I'm curious what Kroger got bcbs. I don't shop at Kroger but I will admit the few time in the one near me, they trump publix for beer selection diversity for sure. Publix is expanding monthly but I doubt I'll see bcbs even will the boat load of goose island they sell
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  30. lonewolfcry

    lonewolfcry Dec 7, 2007 Minnesota

    I'd rather go totally without, if I knew it meant that those guys & gals were getting their fair share.
    There's a hell of a lot of servicemen & women on those bases defending our great nation.

    I really can't believe this even raises a concern with you.
  31. pgrenvicz

    pgrenvicz Nov 15, 2013 Georgia

    I know some retail outlets in the Athens area got some today. Kinda makes you wonder if the distributor is sending out a second wave. There was a good deal of it around Atlanta on Black Fri.
  32. DWheeler379

    DWheeler379 Jun 15, 2012 Colorado

    Saw a second wave of regular in NC today. I expect some markets will get more of BCBS and maybe BW.
  33. bushycook

    bushycook Jan 31, 2011 Virginia

    Oh it doesn't bother me, I grew up in an area with the highest amount of service members in the country. Like I said, I was wondering what those that saw way less this year thought. Still gotta wonder how many Navy guys drink impy stouts, though.
  34. ww54174

    ww54174 Aug 16, 2007 North Carolina

    If it doesn't bother you, then whats the point in trying to 'flame' this type of discussion? Some places got a lot, some didn't. Sure, there were shops that got way less than last year, but there were also shops that got way more than last year. 20 cases going to a naval base likely had no impact on either result.

    I agree with @lonewolfcry - I'm all for any and all bases getting a good amount of a beer regardless of how many, or how few (which appeared to be your insinuation), "Navy guys drink impy stouts". Leave it alone, dude.
  35. DrewBrew87

    DrewBrew87 Dec 17, 2013 South Carolina

    So... any word on a second wave for SC???
  36. Deltoro

    Deltoro Sep 15, 2012 Florida

    So it seems some stores in Florida still might have barleywine on the shelves. If anyone is willing to make a deal shipping won't be too much a hassle cause I'm in Tampa, I have Zhukov, Lacto Apricot Grove, can get Cycle crowlers if need be.

    Hit me up if you wanna work something out.
  37. Tony_D

    Tony_D Feb 7, 2014 North Carolina

    Yeah Bestway got a case of coffee and 2 cases of barleywine but didn't release either on Black Friday. Wish I knew the reason why.
  38. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    ^^^ I didnt see a notice on bcbs either, not on faceboo either.
  39. GameFreac

    GameFreac Apr 8, 2011 Georgia

    All my barleywines were 2014 but I got a reg BCBS in my 4 pack so I only got 3. Damn.
  40. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I'm not a big BW guy so I'll pass on that , but I love the coffee, more subtle than KBS and I'm a big fan of that one.
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