Black Note vs. KBS vs. Goose Island Bourbon County Stout

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  1. mccallisters_dali

    mccallisters_dali Feb 7, 2013 North Carolina

    Have a KBS id love to trade for a BCBS so I can have an opinion on this!!!!! and has anyone in here had a Mother Earth Silent Night? I think that is another solid ba stout, just grabbed the last three bombers at my shop so I can have some sporadically over the next couple months...
     
  2. jimlapaglia

    jimlapaglia Jan 1, 2009 New York

    Is this a steel cage match? Or do we have to wait for beeramania?
     
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  3. IamMe90

    IamMe90 Sep 4, 2012 Wisconsin

    Yeah I've had it before and thought it was pretty good! Definitely isn't in the same league as KBS or BCBS, but I would put it alongside central waters BBS.
     
  4. DavoleBomb

    DavoleBomb Mar 29, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Considering the results were inconclusive, you should probably keep trying till you figure it out!
     
  5. originsbrewery

    originsbrewery Feb 5, 2012 Ohio
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    My wife and I did a similar tasting a little while back with KBS, BA Blackout, and BBPT5. We flip flopped on 2 and 3 between the KBS and the Blackout, but we agreed that the PT5 was significantly better than the other two. As soon as she pops this baby out, we're going to try again with KBS, Black Note, BA Blackout, BBPT5, and BCBS. I can't wait! For either!
     
  6. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
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    People always think that is easy to tell which beer is which in a blind tasting, I was the same way until we started doing them regularly. With beers of very similar styles, like this one, you odds of correctly guessing which is which is probably about 30%. And if you are trying to guess, it usually distracts a person from the picking the beer they like best because of perceptions.
     
  7. bmony26

    bmony26 May 2, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Nice to hear that you considered CW BA Stout. It's probably because the brewery is 20 minutes away and the fact I have no problems getting it that it's my go to beer. I do like the other three you mentioned, it's just that I usually get am able to get a case of CW BA Stout.
     
  8. modern

    modern May 31, 2012 Ohio

    What would you compare them to?

    For anyone weighing in on KBS vs. whatever and maybe remembering KBS as less than wonderful, I recommend you try this year's KBS. It is really, really good.
     
  9. theCoder

    theCoder Oct 24, 2011 Minnesota
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    I'd be interested to hear the results of this. Personally for me Sucaba, CW BBBW then Whiskey Bigfoot. But I love English STyle Barleywines more than American so Sucaba almost autowins that one for me. The Whiskey was quite strong in the bigfoot, hoping age balances that more. Probably my favorite and still quite easily obtainable BBBW for me is from Lift Bridge, their Commander this year is awesome and in fact I prefer it over CW.
     
  10. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    blaaaccck biiisssccuuiit
     
  11. youngac

    youngac Jul 14, 2005 North Carolina

    BCBS > KBS > Black Note
     
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  12. Darklight

    Darklight Jun 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Recently had all 3 as well as BBA Plead the Fifth within the last week. Not a blind taste test but here is how I would rank them.

    1. KBS
    2. BCBS
    3. BBA Plead the Fifth
    4. Black Note

    But all are World Class beers and are probably in my top 10 favorite beers. I just love what the coffee and chocolate brings to KBS.
     
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  13. Squiggy

    Squiggy Feb 18, 2013 Michigan

    I cracked a bottle of 2012 Blacknote last night.
    One of the best beers Ive had this year.
     
  14. jdround

    jdround Jun 27, 2009 Ontario (Canada)

    not gona happen for me... but having a side by side tasting of all three would be awesome.
     
  15. seplo

    seplo Sep 8, 2009 Connecticut
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    As much as I love KBS and BCBS Black Note takes it on this one. I believe I gave KBS and BCBS a 4.75 and Black Note a 5, it wins but not by much....CHEERS
     
  16. ChicagoNick

    ChicagoNick Nov 16, 2012 Illinois
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    Had my first KBS last night.
    Really thin
    STRONG coffee
    Tasted like a stronger version of Dark Horse Perkulator.

    BCBS > Black Note > FBS > FIS > KBS

    Have had all recently and I would not seek out KBS again.
     
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  17. jefferyc

    jefferyc Dec 5, 2008 Michigan

    With Blacknote being 10.5% and KBS being 11.2% abv, I feel like BCBS is in almost in a different ballpark at 15.1% a better comparison to BCBS is the bourban barrel aged batch 9000 by Bells. Would be interesting to do a blind tasting between that and BCBS.
     
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  18. SpunkyHopslammer

    SpunkyHopslammer Jan 18, 2011 Illinois

    Just curious what temps are these beers being tasted at. I read a review of KBS that if drank at a temp coming right out of the fridge, the coffee was almost overwhelming, but if tasted at around 70 degrees or room temperature that the coffee takes a back seat to the chocolates and vanilla.
     
  19. ChicagoNick

    ChicagoNick Nov 16, 2012 Illinois
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    I start drinking cold from the fridge. Then I sip until it warms up a bit. I will not be drinking my beer at room temp, though.

    Honestly, I don't know anyone that checks the actual temperature of their beer. So, for those that claim to drink at 55/65/70 degrees, are you just guessing? Or are you actually sticking a thermometer in you drink?
     
  20. repivk

    repivk Dec 8, 2012 Minnesota
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    I'd have to go BN>KBS>BCBS. Very close race in all, but the smoothness and great melding of flavors makes Black Note top the others for me. It's easily in my top 3 beers all time. Larry Bell for president!
     
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  21. SpunkyHopslammer

    SpunkyHopslammer Jan 18, 2011 Illinois

    Well this guy did
    http://www.theperfectlyhappyman.com/founders-kentucky-breakfast-stout-kbs/
    BEWARE. DON’T DRINK THIS BEER COLD!!!! I started drinking this acclaimed beer at 45 degrees and 2:30 in the afternoon. I finished at 72 degrees and 5 p.m. What a ride. I’ll give the the blow by blow around the temperature.
    45 degrees – Very little aroma, head and taste except for alcohol and bourbon. Smooth, but not what I expected for all the hype. I was disappointed.
    56 degress – Taste and aroma went like this; bourbon led but coffee and alcohol were right behind.
    60 degrees – Coffee and chocolate took over. The bourbon and alochol were moving to the rear.
    65 degrees – Chocolate over took the coffee. Bourbon and alcohol were fading but all flavors were blending together for a wonderful aroma and taste. KBS was becoming even smoother with alcohol as the finish.
    67 degrees – Vanilla started to show itself with chocolate, coffee, bourbon and alcohol in that order.
    70 degress - The best temp to drink this stuff. Rich chocolates, coffee with a hint bourbon and the punch of alcohol that was appropriate.
    72 degrees - This was as warm as I went cause I ran out of beer! But I’m sticking with 70 degrees.
    After this temperature experiment I pulled my other KBS out of the frig and left it sitting on a table in the basement. Can’t wait to have it all at 70 degrees. By the way, it was somewhat odd to have a thermometer in my glass all afternoon but I won’t have to do it again and now you don’t have to at all. Grade: A
     
  22. ChicagoNick

    ChicagoNick Nov 16, 2012 Illinois
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    sonuvabitch... I only had one bottle of KBS. His complaints at the colder temps matched mine. Coffee and Alcohol the entire time I was drinking it. :(

    Although, I'd argue that there's a TON of coffee aroma at the cold temps.
     
  23. MikeEhrmantraut

    MikeEhrmantraut Aug 28, 2012 Tennessee

    Black Note
    BCBS
    KBS
     
  24. atoulouk

    atoulouk Apr 25, 2011 Indiana
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    Right now
    1. BB Pt5


    large gap


    2. KBS
    3. BCBS
    4. BN
     
  25. MaltMilkshake

    MaltMilkshake Feb 9, 2011 California
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    Black Note - Tasty but thin
    KBS - Taste is not good but good mouthfeel
    BCBS - Well above average in both so this one would be the best of three
     
  26. HopsHopenstein

    HopsHopenstein Sep 4, 2011 Connecticut
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    i did a blind test with bapt5, kbs, n black note would have to look at my notes but i'm pretty sure bapt5 was first black note then kbs. going to do out again with bcbs and all off these and see what happens.
     
  27. Smithrob9999

    Smithrob9999 Aug 3, 2011 Texas

    Just get a laser thermometer, I have one laying around my kitchen, if I'm curious I just shoot a quick reading.
     
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  28. DogfishJoe

    DogfishJoe Feb 14, 2010 Ohio
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    Kbs
    Black note
    Bcbs

    I prefer Kbs because of the coffee flavor and drinkability. Blacknote is an incredibly smooth and drinkable ba stout. Bcbs is a great big beer but hard to drink, alcohol is their!
     
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  29. lurpy1

    lurpy1 Jan 15, 2010 Minnesota
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    KBS>BCBS>BN. But also BA9K>KBS and BA9K>Any other barreled beer. Which is interesting, because in addition, Miller Lite<Regular Batch9K<Goat Urine
     
  30. totalbangover

    totalbangover Jul 3, 2012 Michigan
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    A friend, my wife and I did a similar tasting in early March:

    '12 KBS
    '12 BCBS
    '12 BCBCS
    '12 BA Fourth Dementia as a wild card

    Biggest takeway that we all agreed on was that the KBS just didn't seem to be in the same league as the others. To be expected to some degree for sure based on the differences in alcohol but really not to the extent we saw. KBS seemed watery and weak and an obvious 4th place.

    My favorite was a toss up between the normal BCBS and the BA4D. In a pinch I might have to give it to BCBS but it was really close, the BA4D is an almost perfect beer.

    BCBCS was great but I felt like the coffee got in the way of what I was looking for. A cool experiment because it confirmed that generally I like "normal" BA imperial stouts over those with coffee.

    At nearly a year in the bottle the KBS had very little to no coffee presence; I thought this would work to it's advantage for me but no such luck. If you're into the coffee aspect of KBS I would say drink up, the sooner the better.

    I would add that I love KBS and think it's great to drink on it's own... but not head to head like this. It may be that influence of the 15% BCBS monsters just overwhelmed it's 11% subtleties. For this reason I tend to agree with the earlier comments about these beers not really being that comparable.
     
  31. Drucifer

    Drucifer Apr 16, 2012 Illinois
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    I'm seriously considering trying goat urine now
     
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  32. Blowofftube

    Blowofftube Dec 26, 2012 Michigan
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    All of them combined in one big glass, plus a splash of BB plead the 5th.
     
  33. riemster

    riemster Mar 17, 2011 Ohio
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    Thirsty dog is releasing BA Siberian night for those interested. BAing SN really helps it because I find the non-BA to be a little too bitter. It's hitting normal distribution but it's a small batch.
     
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  34. Naptown25rs

    Naptown25rs Apr 11, 2009 Indiana
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    From a recent, similar home experiment:

    1. BCBS
    2. Black Note
    3. BB Plead
    4. CW BA Imp. Stout
    5. KBS
     
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  35. smutty33

    smutty33 Jun 12, 2009 Connecticut

    Black Note is def. in the running for "beer of the year" for me.
    At this time,I cannot simply reveal a winner..........:D

    Cheers
     
  36. sbxx

    sbxx Mar 21, 2011 Illinois

    BCBS is the clear winner for me, but BN and KBS are both good in their own ways.

    You can't go wrong with any of them.
     
  37. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    1. BCBS
    2. KBS
    3. Black Note (way last)
     
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  38. Acropora

    Acropora Oct 15, 2013 California

    BCBS > BN > KBS (by a long shot, fell very short of my expectations)
     
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  39. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    This is kinda silly, not really fair/equal comparisons.

    IMO, the debate should be:

    BCBS vs. Black Note(Bourbon barrel aged stouts)

    BCBCS vs KBS(Bourbon barrel aged coffee stouts)
     
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  40. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    BCBCS>KBS not even close IMO
    BCBS > than most. I don't have access to really hard to get BA Stouts, nor have I tried any of the Whales so relentlessly pursued, but I had a 2009 BCBS that was as good as anything I've ever had. The only thing I enjoyed more would be an Eclipse EC 20 yr old.
     
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