Black & Tan: Favorite Combinations?

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  1. Dylanwilde

    Dylanwilde Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2012

    So I've recently been trying to get into Black and Tans, but my first attempt was rather unsuccessful. I tried to mate Thirsty Dog Christmas Ale with Great Lakes EF Porter and the result wasn't what I was hoping for. I'm still hoping to pair the remaining bottles of Porter with something really interesting but am kind of stumped - do I want a sweeter white ale like Bell's Winter Ale? A hoppy, strong IPA? Pumpkin Ale possibly? What would you guys recommend?

    Also, while we're on the subject, what are your favorite Black and Tan combos in general? Would love to hear 'em!
     
  2. jhartley

    jhartley Poo-Bah (2,369) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Last year I tried SNPA and North Coast Old No. 38, not your typical Black & Tan but it was still tasty.
    The only reason I tried was...well...why not?! :slight_smile:
     
  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,034) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Rare and heady?

    Seriously, tried uncle jacobs stout and upslope pumpkin together. Ruined a fine stout. Too bad really.
     
  4. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Though there are some out there that don`t like shipyard, the brewery itself recommends to take their pumpkinhead and layer with their bluefin stout. I`ve had it a while ago and improperly layered it myself and it wasn`t bad. Of course a guiness with a bass, isn`t bad at least in my opinion.
     
  5. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Double Crooked Tree & Edmund Fitzgerald
     
  6. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    I really, really like this thread. I'm always trying new combinations.
    Personally, I enjoy 90 Minute and Old Rasputin.

    Sculpin and IRS is insane also.
     
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,034) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Totally random, but everytime I see your avatar I wind up with an itch to reread the lovecraft compendium.
     
  8. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    They recommend the same thing with their Smashed Pumpkin. Pumpkin head is absolutely dreadful.
     
  9. TheSixthRing

    TheSixthRing Poo-Bah (2,317) Sep 24, 2008 California

    As bad as Pumpkinhead is, I found the Smashed Pumpkin to be even worse.
     
  10. jhartley

    jhartley Poo-Bah (2,369) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
     
  11. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Allow me to suggest a Weyerbacher Insanity for your reading...
     
  12. JCrandall

    JCrandall Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2012 Connecticut
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    Sixpoint Resin & Diesel. They don't layer well at all but it sure is a tasty mix.
     
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  13. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) May 30, 2011 Alaska

    Yeah, I know, well I live in Maine so when I first got into craft brewing I thought shipyard was great, but now I only think they have average stuff except for Smashed Blueberry (not a real fruit\vegetable beer, more of porter or stout with light blueberry). However, bluefin\pumpinhead wasn`t bad, memorable to say the least. I will admit that comparably pumpinhead is better than smashed pumpkin, just my opinion.
     
  14. betterbgood

    betterbgood Initiate (181) Aug 23, 2008 Ohio

    i like a black christmas, Great lakes Christmas ale and guiness of course
     
  15. ElGallo

    ElGallo Champion (810) Sep 26, 2009 New Hampshire

    Before I die I want to do a Heaven & Hell (DFH World Wide Stout & 120 Minute). Might go local and try a Smuttynose Big A and Imperial Stout.
     
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  16. kuhndog

    kuhndog Disciple (328) Sep 6, 2011 New York

    I love black and tans. Guinness extra and Bass (or Harp, Sam Adams) is my favorite.

    How do you know if 2 different beers will layer or simply "blend" together?
     
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  17. vurt

    vurt Crusader (744) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Firestone Velvet Merlin for the Black, and their Double Barrel Ale for the Tan. It doesn't layer, but it's delicious and almost traditional. And you won't go broke buying the ingredients.
     
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  18. elgiacomo

    elgiacomo Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 Georgia

    I like using IPAs in a Black & Tan. Sweetwater IPA & Guinness is a combo I've enjoyed many times.

    Most extreme Black & Tan I've tried was with Mikkeller 1000 IBU & Port Older Viscosity. Even managed to get fantastic layering with those two monster beers...tasted great too!
     
  19. Chowdahead

    Chowdahead Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    Before you die? I'll pour us up some when you come up for New Baby Beer Fun Day. Lente, Dark Lord, BA 4D and Heaven and Hell to close sound like a good lineup?
     
  20. Docrock

    Docrock Defender (686) Jan 21, 2012 Illinois
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    BlackSmith is always tasty, Guinness and Smithwicks.
     
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  21. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    I have done this one twice. Once with fresh bottles and once with 2 year old bottles. Both were pretty good but kinda sweet.
     
  22. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    I'm contemplating trying this with a Bigfoot and a Narwhal.
     
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  23. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Meyvn (1,083) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    I've done the heaven and hell, split with another person. I recommend it.
     
  24. BeerThursdays

    BeerThursdays Devotee (414) Feb 28, 2010 Delaware
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    Split with multiple. 24oz of 18+ percent could put a hurtin' on anyone.

    We're actually doing a black and tan night this Friday. 5-10 different ones I think. I'll post some opinions.
     
  25. Dtapeski

    Dtapeski Initiate (36) Oct 26, 2012 Colorado

    I've had Bigfoot and SNPA. Didn't layer, but wasn't trying. Had one of each and couldn't choose an order to drink them, so mixed 'em.
    Thought it was pretty good, but not better than Bigfoot on its own, so won't be repeated.
     
  26. Dtrain4

    Dtrain4 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2012 New York

    Ten Fidy and Dale's Pale Ale are very good together
     
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  27. Chickenhawk9932

    Chickenhawk9932 Savant (905) Jul 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I love Sierra Nevada Stout and their Summerfest, so I thought that would be a great black and tan. Turns out it was just muah. Yesterday, however, I was at a brew pub (Two Goats) they did a "Head Butt" with their cream ale and oatmeal stout and it was really good. I loved the oatmeal stout it hard harsh roasted malt bitter coffee and chocolate notes which the cream ale smoothed and mellowed a bit. Now, I still love their oatmeal stout myself, but I'm sure the blend makes it more accessible for many and the flavors of the stout are big enough not to be lost.
     
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  28. jlenik

    jlenik Disciple (374) Jan 22, 2009 New Jersey
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    Rogue Hazelnut Brown Nectar + Rogue Chocolate Stout = Nutella Black and Tan.
     
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  29. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Meyvn (1,293) Aug 13, 2010 Arizona
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    Do you guys mix or layer your Black and Tans? I tried to layer but had no success the one time I tried
     
  30. TravisR

    TravisR Initiate (116) Dec 31, 2012 New Jersey

    This all day. Also Stone IRS and Ruination.
     
  31. jstilwell

    jstilwell Disciple (322) Oct 21, 2008 Massachusetts
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    mixed zhukov with weyerbacher insanity last night by the fire.

    was manly
     
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  32. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Did someone say Insanity?
     
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  33. PatriotsRule

    PatriotsRule Aspirant (257) Sep 25, 2012 Massachusetts

    call me simple, but i am more than satisfied with BBC's Shabadoo
     
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  34. Lerxst

    Lerxst Defender (608) Jun 17, 2005 Florida

    That sounds like a winner. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks.
     
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  35. WesM63

    WesM63 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2011 Ohio

    I've heard DL and 120min is outstanding.

    Personally, I've tried Enjoy By and FBS, it was outstanding.
     
  36. brewtus

    brewtus Zealot (549) Dec 29, 2012 Ohio
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    Wells banana bread beer mixed with rogue chocolate stout.... Aaaaaaamazing, desert perfection in a glass. It doesn't layer well, but I think it's better mixed anyways
     
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  37. tgchief

    tgchief Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2010 Iowa

    I like it hoppy so our HawkIPA ..... It's Golden Nugget IPA topped with #1 Stunna Black IPA.
     
  38. itsthepleats

    itsthepleats Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Ohio

    Regular and heady was pretty damn tasty...seriously.
    [​IMG]
     
  39. dhannes

    dhannes Devotee (499) Feb 14, 2010 Wisconsin

    My latest (and greatest) was Left Hand Nitro Milk Stout with New Glarus Apple Ale.

    Young's Double Chocolate Stout has worked the best for me, for separation, and taste.
     
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  40. sir-knifes-alot

    sir-knifes-alot Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2012 Colorado

    I'm drinking a Narwhal and Renegade Ryeteous rye IPA right now, and I gotta say, it's pretty damn tasty.
     
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