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Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by NJOssie, Nov 27, 2012.
Congrats to some really great guys! Cheers Bob!
good luck guys!
Great news. Can't have enough quality breweries in NJ
Just got my first sixer of Blackhorn, getting cold in the fridge right now, can't wait!!
Looking forward to trying some Bolero Snort at the AC Beerfest.
These guys have been putting out some creative, tasty beers recently. Had the OVB Orange Creamsicle IPA last night and was seriously surprised by how good this was. Got a smooth citrus up front, then followed the lactose to give that creamsicle experience, finishing with a nice little resinous touch. Keep up the good work, guys.
What is thread may never die.
On topic: I loved OVB and enjoyed the lemon meringue one even more! Great stuff lately, BS.
Agreed, lemon meringue was great too. Wish I could double like for the GOT reference.
I agree with you 100% I drank a bunch of these over the 4th of July holiday and thought they were great. I also really enjoyed LaTaureau Tripel and We're Bucked.
I feel these guys deserve a lot of credit. They took all the criticism they were getting, listened, and started putting out really creative and great tasting beers. IMO, the product is getting better and better every release.
Well done guys!
I enjoyed the "I Ain't Afraid of No Bulls" and the OVB so far. They got a really bad rap for a while, and didn't really start to try them until about a month ago. They had a beer on tap at The Chubby Pickle that was pretty nice.
Anyone had OVB in the past few days? Just cracked my last can and damn, that got better with a few weeks time. Really getting that vanilla bean. It's reduced the citrusy outburst and combined really well. Not sure if the beer I had before it had an effect or what, but this last can was golden.
I had one over weekend and agree that the citrus bite when extremely fresh has faded a bit. I prefer it fresher, but either way it's still delicious. I still have 2 or 3 cans and will probably be drinking them this coming weekend, so we shall see what another week does, if anything.
My experience with BS has been a bit of a roller coaster ride. Some ups and down along the way, but right now I'm on my way up hoping there are no steep drops in sight.
First I tried their Razbullied Rye last summer. This beer tasted like butter pecan. Given the style, I was not going to write them off after one bad experience.
Their next offering to hit the shelves near me was Moovember Milk Stout, and it was phenomenal. I really hope this is a seasonal that comes back.
Strawbully Fields then pulled me back into the wrong direction as that had some odd smells like melted plastic and dirt, with a muted earthy and musty flavor that I did not enjoy.
Then came the most recent offerings.
Unfortunately I missed Lemon Bullringue, but OVB, Kow Lime Pie, I Ain't Aftaid of No Bulls and We're Bucked have all been very good to excellent. For me, this brewery is on a great run right now. They're bringing some well done unique offerings to the market and I hope it continues.
Finally saw their stuff down at Farmingdale Liquors and picked up some Rotatabull. Very nice! They had OVB and Lemon on the shelf as well that I'll try next time. Why are these guys so low profile?
Their early offerings were mostly average or sub par (in my opinion) and I think their logo/label art didn't help either so for a while people wrote them off but over the past year or so they've really been improving
Negative PR in the first year - dealing with infections, bad customer feedback, not so great beer.
To the craft beer rookie now coming into the NJ scene, Bolero has some great offerings, as long as you make sure you are getting some of their 2016 beer. I've seen some of their 2015's still on the shelves of some places, and don't let my curiousity wander too far.
There are still quite a few people that still swear off Bolero. Thankfully, I'm not one of them.
Gypsy/contract brewed, their early stuff especially the year round stuff was pedestrian at best, labels weren't great, no taproom to visit, etc.
They're on the right road. I hope they hollow out their own space personally.
I enjoyed the two new beers they just released in cans. Solid.
Thanks for the run down everyone. The labels are still, eh, but that does not affect the experience for me. It's NJ, so I'll support it, but the price point was a little higher compared to what I'd otherwise get, so that may be the unsustainable part.
I have really taken a liking to Bull Pop, bought and drank 4 bottles or so. Rotatabull 004 was solid (001 was still my favorite though) and Lemon Bullringue is a favorite. Super excited for the apple pie!
I had a bunch of their stuff early and wrote them off.
I am ready to give them another try.
They are not the greatest brewery in the world but they have gotten better. The beers have gone from undrinkable to drinkable with the occasional really good beer.
I will have to revisit myself as I did not care for the few I tried early on. And they really need to do away with using "Bull" in the name of every single beer. It's kind of juvenile IMO and the names can only get more ridiculous.
Meh. With other options (Magnify, Brix City, Alementary) why buy a subpar beer for a higher price? I don't think I've loved any Bolero Snort beer, yet. Would like to see them succeed, though.
Oh yeah and I also enjoyed the new kolsch in the bomber.
Thought the kolsch was really enjoyable too
What was the last thing you had from them? As others have stated, they, deservedly, get a bum rap for a lot of their early stuff, but ever since January, I think they've been on fire. I still have them on a short leash, but now I try to get every new thing they release. OVB is always good, Lemon Bullringue is very good, I actually liked Kow Lime Pie more, Variabull and Rotatabull have both been good to very good, and AppBull PiePA ala Mode sounds like it could be a really fun fall seasonal.
I've also heard that they're changing the brewery for Bergen County Bull Stout and that all the recipes are getting turned up to 11 so I'm excited about that.
I was recently talking to someone who owns and operates a brewery in NJ. He knows quite a bit about the stiff ABC rules/regulations in the Garden State and somehow Bolero Snort came up. The big thing I took away from our chat was him basically saying BS might not legally be able to brew/pour their contract-brewed beers (OVB, Lemon Bullringue, etc.) in the new facility because they were originally brewed at another location. They would still be able to distribute cans to retail, but basically they can't legally feature previously made contract-brews in the new place.
Again, his reasoning was a lot more intuitive and he explained things much better than I ever could. I'm a big supporter of BS and wish them nothing, but the best. Just figured I'd share this. If anybody with a good knowledge of the rulebook regarding brewery legislation in NJ could shed more light on this I'd appreciate it.
I also had a conversation (not about BS) with an owner/operator and it sounded like the beer has to be brewed on premises to be poured on premises.
So even if it was originally brewed elsewhere, as long as the batch being poured was brewed on site, we're cool?
Anyone want to speak to a possible BS physical location? Timelines, locations, etc?
I think they are already brewing at two places (High Point and Dark City).
Until they get their own place or dedicated, controlled barreling space in a brewery, I am going to be staying away from the barrel aged offerings.
All of the new beers they have brewed that aren't barrel aged I have been very impressed with. I'm glad to see the distribution growing again.
have one of each of last years Bergen County still.. curious to see how they are when i pop them all for football season
Same here. I remember buying a 6-pack a few years ago and when I got home I realized that the bottles were almost completely filled to the top with no headspace for air. The beers poured flat. Their 6-pack prices were on the pricey side and I didn't feel like gambling on them again. I'm always willing to give breweries a second chance though so maybe it's time.
ApBull PiePA a la mode was brewed and canned at Double Nickle. Source: the can label
Guess it is up to 3 (4 if you include their recent collaboration). If you had it, how did you like ApBull PiePA a la mode? Deciding whether to grab this or head to Magnify tomorrow - although I'll probably cave and get both...
Definitely worth a 4pk but a beer like this might be too young to judge right now. I thought it was a solid, fall-spiced IPA with some apple notes, but I didn't get the lactose or the graham cracker crust that I get in Lemon Bullringue. Excited to see what happened to it. I understand your pain! Magnify, Greenpoint, Interboro, Other Half . . . . I only have so much time and money!
Yeah. I bought a 4 pack of this (apple pie-ish) and also got the new Magnify brews AND going to OH tomorrow after my son's football game. Lucky to have a craft-loving wife. Too much good beer around!
Does anyone know the contract details of any brewery that contract brews? not specific numbers of anything but more so how it works. Does the physical brewery get a percent profit from the sale of the beer or just a flat fee for allowing the brewery to use your equipment?